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     1. 04:41 AM - Re: Rib-lacing Cord (Dick and Marge Gillespie)
     2. 08:06 AM - Painting control system metal parts (Rick Holland)
     3. 08:39 AM - Powdercoating control system parts (Rick Holland)
     4. 09:07 AM - Firewall/crossbrace question (TBYH@aol.com)
     5. 01:19 PM - Re: Painting control system metal parts (Mike Luther)
     6. 01:36 PM - Re: Powdercoating control system parts (DJ Vegh)
     7. 01:41 PM - Re: Painting control system metal parts (cgalley)
     8. 03:36 PM - Re: Painting control system metal parts (walt evans)
     9. 04:59 PM - engine available (Bert Conoly)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Rib-lacing Cord | 
      
      Steve,
      It's the round cord.  You arrived in Ft.Myers on one of the coldest days of the
      year.  If  you'd like to discuss it,  call me at 936-2774.
      DickG.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Steve Eldredge
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 10:29 PM
        Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Rib-lacing Cord
      
      
        Don't know about a new source of cord, But I just saved a ton of money on insurance...
      
      
        Only kidding, but I did by chance just land in your fair city about 2 hours ago
      (ala Delta 767, not the piet..)
      
      
        Is this the flat cord or the round cord we are talking about?
      
      
        Steve E (at the pink shell)
      
      
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick and Marge Gillespie
        Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 8:52 AM
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rib-lacing Cord
      
      
        Pieters,
      
        Don't bitch a whole lot,  but I really gotta get this one out for venting and
      warning others.  This is my second time around using Poly Fiber system and am
      well pleased except for the following:  I ran out of cord (500 yds) from the
      first time and had to re-order (from AS & S) to finish this second project.  I
      was rocking right along almost enjoying the lacing until I received the re-order
      of cord.  It was ordered under the same part number at AS & S but when received
      it was much heavier cord and much waxier and only 296 yards. P/N  09-03800.
      Talk about difficult.  It was twice as hard to use and took at least twice
      as long to lace.  I was so pissed I called PolyFiber and ask them about it.
      The tech I talked to said that he was aware of the cord being heavier and said
      that it was all that was available.  So,  does anyone know of any other source
      of cord that I might replace what I am going to dispose of?  I have finished
      with this project but will be doing more lacing in the future, I hope.
      
        DickG.
      
        Ft. Myers, FL
      
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| Subject:  | Painting control system metal parts | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
      
      What have you guys used to paint your control system parts (after zinc
      chromate primer)?  Was thinking of using rustoleum spray paint.
      Lighter colors are better at showing weld cracks correct?
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      
      
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| Subject:  | Powdercoating control system parts | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
      
      You guys that powdercoated your control system parts, how did you deal
      with the ends of your torque tube and bellcrank tube which fits
      tightly and rotates in a bearing tube. Can those ends be masked off
      before coating? And the insides of the bearing tubes as well.
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      
      
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| Subject:  | Firewall/crossbrace question | 
      
      This will seem like a dumb question (I know, I know -- there are no dumb 
      questions, but this one may qualify). 
      
      On the 1-1/2 by 1-1/4-inch white ash horizontal crossbrace that is shaped to 
      fit around the vertical uprights behind the firewall...and is held in place 
      with 5/16 bolts...should there also be glue between the ash crosspiece and the
      
      back of the plywood firewall?  This is the piece that the Model A engine 
      "cradle" rests on...  I assume there should be glue here, in addition to the 
      bolts...and I assume the plywood "box" (where the mag and radiator will reside)
      above 
      is also glued to that crosspiece....
      
      Fred B.
      
      .
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Painting control system metal parts | 
      
      Hi Rick:
      
      I am really sold on the Poly-Fiber two part white Epoxy primer for all of
      my metal parts.  After seven days of cure time it is a really durable
      finish.  Paint stripper won't touch it and I can't scratch it off with my
      finger nail and I can polish the primer to a nice sheen for a final
      finish.  I did read that Epoxy primer will get a little chalky after a few
      years of UV.
      
      Zinc chromate as a primer for steel works just fine, but I ran into
      durability issues when I tried to topcoat the primer with spray enamel.
      
      Mike Luther
      
      
      Rick Holland wrote:
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
      >
      > What have you guys used to paint your control system parts (after zinc
      > chromate primer)?  Was thinking of using rustoleum spray paint.
      > Lighter colors are better at showing weld cracks correct?
      >
      > --
      > Rick Holland
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Powdercoating control system parts | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
      
      all my stuff was powdercoated.  thermal tape is used to mask off areas where 
      powdercoat should not get to.
      
      DJ
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Rick Holland" <at7000ft@gmail.com>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Powdercoating control system parts
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
      >
      > You guys that powdercoated your control system parts, how did you deal
      > with the ends of your torque tube and bellcrank tube which fits
      > tightly and rotates in a bearing tube. Can those ends be masked off
      > before coating? And the insides of the bearing tubes as well.
      >
      > -- 
      > Rick Holland
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Painting control system metal parts | 
      
      Most of the Fabric "glues" will lift the zinc chromate as well. Then there goes
      your rust protection.
      
      Cy Galley - Chair,
      AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair
      A Service Project of Chapter 75
      EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC
      EAA Sport Pilot
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Mike Luther
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 3:18 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Painting control system metal parts
      
      
        Hi Rick:
        I am really sold on the Poly-Fiber two part white Epoxy primer for all of my
      metal parts.  After seven days of cure time it is a really durable finish.  Paint
      stripper won't touch it and I can't scratch it off with my finger nail and
      I can polish the primer to a nice sheen for a final finish.  I did read that
      Epoxy primer will get a little chalky after a few years of UV.
      
        Zinc chromate as a primer for steel works just fine, but I ran into durability
      issues when I tried to topcoat the primer with spray enamel.
      
        Mike Luther
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
      
        Rick Holland wrote:
      
          --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
          What have you guys used to paint your control system parts (after zinc
          chromate primer)?  Was thinking of using rustoleum spray paint.
          Lighter colors are better at showing weld cracks correct?
      
          --
          Rick Holland
           
           
            - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -
           
          
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Painting control system metal parts | 
      
      Rick,
      I finally settled on Rust-o-leam appliance epoxy spray paint.  In the
      hardware store with a picture of a fridge or stove on it.   Not too many
      choices for color,,,black,white or almond.   Cause I  made all the controls
      black, it worked out.    Since most parts can fit into an oven, I sprayed
      and baked at 250 F for about 1/2 hour.  When it cools, it seems to be bullet
      proof, even MEK wont touch it.
      I was put onto this by my Mentor AP.
      walt evans
      NX140DL
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Rick Holland" <at7000ft@gmail.com>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Painting control system metal parts
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
      >
      > What have you guys used to paint your control system parts (after zinc
      > chromate primer)?  Was thinking of using rustoleum spray paint.
      > Lighter colors are better at showing weld cracks correct?
      >
      > -- 
      > Rick Holland
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | engine available | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
      
      I just heard about an engine /prop combo that is available.  This is a Chevy
      (GM) 2.5 Liter - 4 cylinder engine with a wooden prop.  A retired Doctor (or
      dentist) built this engine up for a Corben Baby Ace and it was completed and
      flew.  It was very satisfatory however evidently some family members
      "encouraged" him to convert to a continental.  Auto engine Phobia, I guess.
      He told me it had a special cam put in to make the max power 92 hp at a
      lower RPM than what the engine is rated at.  I think it also of course comes
      with carb, prop hub, stacks, etc.
      
      This is the same type engine that Larry Harrison flew with for years - I
      flew that plane several times and it was  a sweet engine.  It also LOOKS
      very much like a Model A.
      
      Dr Wicker is known here locally as a VERY capable builder and pilot having
      built and flown a Marquart Charger for years.
      
      Anyway - I have no interest in this at all - diont get a thing out of it -I
      just wanted to pass it along.
      
      If anybody wants his telephone number, e-mail me off line.
      
      Bert
      
      
 
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