---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/22/05: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:52 AM - GN-1 project on ebay (Michael D Cuy) 2. 03:29 PM - Re: GN-1 project on ebay (DJ Vegh) 3. 04:58 PM - Why buy plans? (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 4. 07:14 PM - Re: Why buy plans? () 5. 07:39 PM - Re: Why buy plans? (Cinda Gadd) 6. 08:53 PM - Re: Why buy plans? (Galen Hutcheson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:46 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: GN-1 project on ebay --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy This looks pretty nice........ http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4529984847&category=63679&sspagename=WDVW ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:38 PM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: GN-1 project on ebay --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" that's the same one that was for sale last year. Not sure why it's listed again cause I thought it sold last time. It does look nice though. I like the aluminum combing work. DJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael D Cuy" Subject: Pietenpol-List: GN-1 project on ebay > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > > This looks pretty nice........ > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4529984847&category=63679&sspagename=WDVW > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:09 PM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Why buy plans? Listers, I was wondering if it is really necessary to purchase plans for the Pietenpol Air Camper, or the GN-1, when the plans in the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual (available from EAA) seem to be good enough to build from? Isn't that why they were published originally? Dan Hopper Walton, IN ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:59 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Why buy plans? Dan, The plans include changes/improvements to several areas including cable routings, landing gear, spar fittings, rib construction, etc... Greg Cardinal FAA paperwork is DONE and approved! Final inspection to be scheduled in MARCH! ----- Original Message ----- From: Hopperdhh@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:56 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Why buy plans? Listers, I was wondering if it is really necessary to purchase plans for the Pietenpol Air Camper, or the GN-1, when the plans in the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual (available from EAA) seem to be good enough to build from? Isn't that why they were published originally? Dan Hopper Walton, IN ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:12 PM PST US s=test1; d=earthlink.net; b=PUkbPwKeuxa6gcFPSUuo9oRmLDr/4H9UjtRGgVXwhU2ASE4d44dmLC9nVODAJzDT; From: "Cinda Gadd" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Why buy plans? Dan, You could build from the F&G plans. The 1934 plans, from Don Pietenpol, are called improved and most seem to think they are. They are also bigger and there is more detail. The 34 plans are 2 1/2 inches longer and the Corvair fuselage is about 14 inches longer, you may want the longer fuse if you are larger than about 5'8" and 180 lbs. or just want more space. If you use the F&G plans check out the diagonal brace in the pilot pit, it goes the same way all the other diagonals go, opposite from the 34 plans. The F&G are also missing the long gusset on the lower longeron aft of the pilot seat and the large gusset on the tail post. The 34 plans also have larger and harder wood braces across the floor at the lift strut attach points. Hope this helps. Skip Hales Landing WV ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:07 PM PST US s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=yDqhy3hqyWfgf51VC7WNJt9RbH4MPTvTLjLiYqlZDjpB8+nccUCnAG1F2Ryx0vdvfg+d+0rTtiuhxBa3+k815pW1DEe/9m0hFzxGh9b4Otihmm2rNqwcpNKwe1wOp0Y3vwqXm6nfhoBcgBYo96SylDvfZUIkDy4j+JOMl7mBOu4= ; From: Galen Hutcheson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Why buy plans? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson Dan, I think you could easily use the F&G plans. There seem to be about three types of Piet builders: those who stick religiously to the plans and don't stray at all, those who stray just a little from the plans, and those who stray a lot. There are even a few who use the plans only as an educational resource and from them build an entirely different airplane. All of the above builders are correct in that they are building airplanes and are having fun. For my project, I could have easily just used the F&G plans and my plane would have turned out just the same. If you are the purist builder, then the 1934 plans may be more helpful to you. Either way, you will have fun building this little airplane (and it's variations). Doc > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hopperdhh@aol.com > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:56 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Why buy plans? > > > Listers, > > I was wondering if it is really necessary to > purchase plans for the Pietenpol Air Camper, or the > GN-1, when the plans in the 1932 Flying and Glider > Manual (available from EAA) seem to be good enough > to build from? Isn't that why they were published > originally? > > Dan Hopper > Walton, IN __________________________________