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1. 04:36 AM - Re: Teen Builder (Bernadette)
2. 05:54 AM - San Fran Piet Project....guy needs assistance selling...... (Michael D Cuy)
3. 06:40 AM - Cabane diagonal struts (Rick Holland)
4. 08:34 AM - Re: C-90 Piet (Steve Eldredge)
5. 10:27 AM - Re: Re: Teen Builder (Gordon Bowen)
6. 11:02 AM - smoke systems (Oscar Zuniga)
7. 11:24 AM - Re: smoke systems (Jim Markle)
8. 12:13 PM - Re: smoke systems (Michael D Cuy)
9. 05:03 PM - Re: teen builder (TRichmo9@aol.com)
10. 06:41 PM - Ben Charvet's Piet/Douglas fir (Oscar Zuniga)
11. 07:45 PM - Re: Ben Charvet's Piet/Douglas fir (Ben Charvet)
12. 07:48 PM - Splicing fuselage longerons? (Ben Charvet)
13. 09:09 PM - Re: Splicing fuselage longerons? ()
14. 11:15 PM - Re: Splicing fuselage longerons? (Galen Hutcheson)
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| Subject: | Re: Teen Builder |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bernadette" <docfont@voyager.net>
> From: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: teen builder
>
> Tom,
> I think building a homebuilt can be a great character builder for any
young man
> and the original wooden Piete is a great place to start.
> are all that's needed. If you're anywhere near Satsuma FL, I'll give the
> young Eagle enough rough cut Sitka spruce to get started, if he's got
the wood
> working tools and desire to buy a set of plans. Building a plane
can start a lifetime
> of love of aviation, even if it takes a lifetime getting done.
> Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
Greetings Gordon and the rest of the list
My Son is 10 and we are starting on a homebuilt. Plan is to build it on
the low budget system over the next mumble mumble years so it should be
ready to get him a sport pilot license when he is old enough. Low budget
because I am back in the poor college student phase of my life again
adding an RN degree to what I already have. Secondary plan is to use it
to show how all of this homeschool book learning stuff works in real
life. Tertiary plan is to use it as a way to teach him to use all the
fun toys in my harp, spinning wheel and medievil armor building shop.
Matthew is now 10 and has been helping me in the shop for years. At
first it was just, "Hand me that phillips screwdriver" type things but
he learned the names off all the tools. At 8 it was drill press,
catching boards coming out of the planer and power hand tools like the
router. Last year at age 9 he got to turn some simple pieces on the
metal lathe and started on the band saw. This year I will start on some
of the other saws and let him make some things he can sell on ebay and
at renassaince faires.
I've been involved with the renassaince faire/SCA market for 25 years.
That's me mentioned on the Argent Fox Harps webpage; www.argentfox.com/
We have lots of tools to play with. I noticed he's picked up 2 quotes
from time spent together in the shop. "I do good work." and "Uh, don't
tell mom." I noticed him using those expressions I normally use last
spring while we were building a big carved wooden sign and a 2'
illuminated clock that went with it.
Our plane project is a Woodys Pusher not a Pietenpol. Similar in terms
of speed and performance. The Woodys Pusher was designed in a time when
a lot of builders did not have a shop full of tools so many of the parts
were simplified. The Pietenpol is better designed in some ways so I am
using bits of pieces, like truss wing ribs in my project.
Gordon, can I buy a bit of that spruce next month? Woulda started buying
wood this month but my tuition was due last week. Next year Matthew will
be 12 by July and we planned to send him to EAA's aviation camp for a
week. I know a great kid who can use a few of those Young Eagle points
to help pay his tuition to camp if you know anyone with EAA Young Eagle
points.
DocFont, EAA 77755
yep, I think a 5 digit EAA number puts me in old timer, but not quite
geezer status
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| Subject: | San Fran Piet Project....guy needs assistance selling...... |
tlc1@well.com writes
>I am the executor of an estate of an elderly friend here in San Francisco.
>The estate includes a partially-built Pietenpol. I am seeking advice on
>how I might sell the Piet and what it might be worth. I think it is an Air
>Camper. The fuselage is complete, as is one wing and (I think) the
>elevators and rudder. There are wheels, too, but no engine. The components
>are located in San Francisco. I would appreciate any advice you might give
>me on how best to dispose of it. Are there any Pietenpol afficianados or
>experts here in the Bay Area that might be able to take a look at the Piet?
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Tom Chester
>
>-----------------
>Thomas L. Chester
>1972 Tenth Avenue
>San Francisco, CA 94116
>(415) 665-7520, Cell (415) 806-3517
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| Subject: | Cabane diagonal struts |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
What size round 4130 tubing would be adequate for the cabane diagonal
struts (to the top engine mount fitting)? I have some 3/4" .058 and
some 1" .049 laying around. Also, is their a tubing strength
comparison chart on line somewhere showing the different diameter/wall
thickness sizes?
Thanks
--
Rick Holland
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
I want to do this too. Been thinking of the 0-200.
Stevee
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
clawler@ptd.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: C-90 Piet
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: clawler@ptd.net
I upgraded my C-65 Piet to a C-90 from Don's Dream Machine's in
Georgia. Flew it with the new engine installed today. I haven't carried
a passenger yet, but the performance is improved dramatically. It's
getting of the ground in the length of the turnaround at the end the
runway. Might be 150ft. I'm not sure about the rate of climb, but I'm
flying of a 1,200ft strip and the angle of climb improved a bunch too.
I should be just fine with a normal sized passenger now. Should have
done this a long time ago.
Craig Lawler
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| Subject: | Re: Teen Builder |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
To support any Young Eagles or well motivated "teenbuilder" who has adequate
motivation and supervision, I'll donate the wood currently in FL. It's
all excellent 2 yr dryed Kachemak Bay AK Sika spruce. But- rough cut 8.5'
max length (that's the length of my pickup bed), most 3/4" and some 1 1/2"
thick, varies from 4" to 8" wide. Mostly knot free but some small tight
knots. The problem for anyone interested is: 3-400 bf is in the hanger
Palatka FL, you gotta get it yourself somehow. My co-builder of Piete
N-1033B is at the airport everyday, contact Floyd at 386-325-3208, if you'd
like to come and pickup some wood, just put it to the good use of building
tomorrow's aviators.
Each year around Nov. I come south from Homer AK and bring down some wood
for friends that ask for it. It's all rough cut directly from the sawmill,
but hand selected by one of the most environmentally smart and wood savey
sawmillers I've ever had the pleasure go getting to know. It's excellent
wood for homebuilders who what to make something meaningful. So, if any of
you have good Young Eagles projects afoot and need wood, contact me prior to
Nov. each year and I'll see what I can do to get it to you for least cost or
free.
Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
Cozy IV N64CY
Osprey II N64SY
Pietenpol N-1033B
"Fanaticism consists of redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your
aim"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernadette" <docfont@voyager.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Teen Builder
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bernadette" <docfont@voyager.net>
>
> > From: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: teen builder
> >
> > Tom,
> > I think building a homebuilt can be a great character builder for any
> young man
> > and the original wooden Piete is a great place to start.
> > are all that's needed. If you're anywhere near Satsuma FL, I'll give
the
> > young Eagle enough rough cut Sitka spruce to get started, if he's got
> the wood
> > working tools and desire to buy a set of plans. Building a plane
> can start a lifetime
> > of love of aviation, even if it takes a lifetime getting done.
> > Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
>
> Greetings Gordon and the rest of the list
>
> My Son is 10 and we are starting on a homebuilt. Plan is to build it on
> the low budget system over the next mumble mumble years so it should be
> ready to get him a sport pilot license when he is old enough. Low budget
> because I am back in the poor college student phase of my life again
> adding an RN degree to what I already have. Secondary plan is to use it
> to show how all of this homeschool book learning stuff works in real
> life. Tertiary plan is to use it as a way to teach him to use all the
> fun toys in my harp, spinning wheel and medievil armor building shop.
>
> Matthew is now 10 and has been helping me in the shop for years. At
> first it was just, "Hand me that phillips screwdriver" type things but
> he learned the names off all the tools. At 8 it was drill press,
> catching boards coming out of the planer and power hand tools like the
> router. Last year at age 9 he got to turn some simple pieces on the
> metal lathe and started on the band saw. This year I will start on some
> of the other saws and let him make some things he can sell on ebay and
> at renassaince faires.
>
> I've been involved with the renassaince faire/SCA market for 25 years.
> That's me mentioned on the Argent Fox Harps webpage; www.argentfox.com/
> We have lots of tools to play with. I noticed he's picked up 2 quotes
> from time spent together in the shop. "I do good work." and "Uh, don't
> tell mom." I noticed him using those expressions I normally use last
> spring while we were building a big carved wooden sign and a 2'
> illuminated clock that went with it.
>
> Our plane project is a Woodys Pusher not a Pietenpol. Similar in terms
> of speed and performance. The Woodys Pusher was designed in a time when
> a lot of builders did not have a shop full of tools so many of the parts
> were simplified. The Pietenpol is better designed in some ways so I am
> using bits of pieces, like truss wing ribs in my project.
>
> Gordon, can I buy a bit of that spruce next month? Woulda started buying
> wood this month but my tuition was due last week. Next year Matthew will
> be 12 by July and we planned to send him to EAA's aviation camp for a
> week. I know a great kid who can use a few of those Young Eagle points
> to help pay his tuition to camp if you know anyone with EAA Young Eagle
> points.
>
> DocFont, EAA 77755
> yep, I think a 5 digit EAA number puts me in old timer, but not quite
> geezer status
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Howdy, Pieters;
I'm working on a smoke system for 41CC but in the meantime, for you smoke
fanatics who can handle video clips, you can take a look at a different type
of smoke system here (it's about a 1MB file):
http://www.flysquirrel.net/Babypowder.mpeg
If you've ever been around infants, you'll understand this (I'm from a
family of 10 kids myself).
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: smoke systems |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
My neighbors are wondering what all the laughing is about....
This is great.....
Reminds me of some of the other not so pleasent "oops" occurances I've
experienced during "the process".....this is MUCH more tolerable.....
jm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: smoke systems
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Howdy, Pieters;
>
> I'm working on a smoke system for 41CC but in the meantime, for you smoke
> fanatics who can handle video clips, you can take a look at a different
> type of smoke system here (it's about a 1MB file):
> http://www.flysquirrel.net/Babypowder.mpeg
>
> If you've ever been around infants, you'll understand this (I'm from a
> family of 10 kids myself).
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: smoke systems |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Oscar--where did you get that clip of Chuck Gantzer as a baby ?? That's
where his love for smoke all began, you know !
The connection is in the fact that he uses baby oil for smoke oil !
His new sponsor this year on the Tour America is Johnson & Johnson. I
also hear they are going to help him out
should he land at the party cove:))
Smoke em' if you got 'em, Chuck ! I'm packing the smoke oil for BHead
this year. Weather permitting.
Mike C.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: teen builder |
In a message dated 3/28/05 12:25:56 A.M. Central Standard Time,
Hopperdhh@aol.com writes:
Mike,
Be careful. Pretty soon he'll be giving you lessons! It happened to me.
My oldest son helped me with my stock car racing when he was about 6 to age
15. Now he knows more about it than me! (He just turned 43.) We still
share our interest in automotive things. I can't imagine what kind of
relationship we'd have without that.
I think you did the right thing by letting him work on his own. Sounds like
a great father-son project.
do not archive
Dan Hopper
Walton, IN
RV-7A (Flying - being painted now)
Have the plans for a Piet. It will be Corvair powered.
In a message dated 3/27/05 8:54:20 P.M. US Eastern Standard Time,
mmccarty@zianet.com writes:
He'll need a lot of perseverance to see it through to completion. I had the
skills to do something
like this as a teen, but I think it would have been hard for me to see a
project of this size through
to the final product.
I have a 14 year old whose only interest right now is to get this Corvair
engine together and see it run.
We put a long block together and then the Air Force sent me off to Flight
Engineer school last week
for the next six weeks. He's just itching for me to get back so we can
wrench on it. Somewhere along
the way I realized that we didn't orient the pistons properly and that we
need to take it apart and flip half
the pistons over. I was going to help him do it when I got back home.
After reading your post and thinking
about the things I was doing by myself when I was a young teen (building
motors, doing bodywork,
doing carpentry, plumbing and electrical work) I realized that I don't give
him enough leeway to let him
go and learn some of these things on his own. I'm always there supervising
him and if he runs into
trouble doing something I do it for him. As a result he doesn't have a lot
of confidence in being able
to accomplish anything on his own After thinking it over I called him and
told him to go ahead and
disassemble the motor and turn the pistons over. I know he can do it, it's
just the matter of letting
him do it on his own...
-Mike McCarty
mike after your first email it hit me that's how i treated my first son. it
was hard to walk away sometimes and let him muddle through problems, but it
worked out his 87 jaguar does a 13 second quarter mile and will top out at 175
mph on the road, only seen it once.but he did it all,and it gets 20 mpg.and
you know hes a national champion competive trailrider ,and just took first at
a national karate meet .so he turned out ok
thanks for your emails
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| Subject: | Ben Charvet's Piet/Douglas fir |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Ben wrote-
>I built an entire fuselage mock-up with some lumber yard douglas fir
>that I bought before I really knew what the recommendations were
>as far as grain slope, etc.
I looked at Ben's construction photos and everything looks real nice to me.
But beyond that, I am going to stick my neck waaaay out and ask why in the
world build that nice fuselage mock-up only to discard it due to some of the
wood grain slope being "out of spec"? It's fine to build a mock-up out of
scrap for trying out different configurations of things, and it's fine to do
it for the sheer practice and learning to build, but I don't believe I've
every read anything that says the grain slope is critical for any reason
other than to control twist/warpage due to changes in moisture content of
the wood UNLESS we're talking about wing spars. For a truss structure like
the fuselage, with short spans and everything cross-braced, grain slope as a
factor leading to twist or warpage would not only be insignificant, it would
have to all even itself out unless you intentionally aligned all the pieces
with the grain in the same direction... not very likely with that many small
pieces.
There are differences in bending strength when comparing loading parallel or
perpendicular to the grain, but for the fuselage structure where the loads
are tension/compression, I don't see that it would make a bit of difference.
If the stock is clear, knot-free, and has tight grain, I'd like to hear
(for the purpose of my own education) why it wouldn't be suitable for the
fuselage truss structure or even for the tail feathers (braced structures).
I will say this about Douglas fir though... it's a pain to make holes in it
when you're not drilling counter to the grain ("through the layers"). The
layers of grain differ significantly in hardness and the "hard layers" grab
your drill bit and offset the hole you're trying to drill if you don't use a
guide or a short, stiff bit with the work held securely. Having built the
entire structure of my "Flying Squirrel" out of 3/4" square stock fir, I've
made my share of slightly offset holes!
>There are three other Piets under construction within 40 miles of me
I must have missed it in your post. Where are you located?
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Ben Charvet's Piet/Douglas fir |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ben Charvet" <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
Well, the mock-up looks real good in person too....and you're not the first
person to ask why the wood wasn't good enough. The grain run-out problems
were within a foot of the end of the longerons on 2 or 3 of them. If it had
been in the middle I might have been willing to take the chance. I figured
I had a chance of breaking off the tail in a hard landing, or losing the
engine and having a severe out of balance problem :). It probably would
have been fine, but at that stage of the project I wasn't sure if it was
wise to make such a compromise. Also, I hadn't made many connections at EAA
866 yet. Probably should have had one of the local builders look at it.
Anyway, after I figured it was just a mockup, I used cheap plywood, and
carpenter's glue to put the thing together, so it really is just a mockup
now.
I live in Mims, Fl, which is just north of Titusville (next to Kennedy Space
Center)
I need to update the website. I made rib# 12 tonight and bought a corvair
motor for $100 today. My progress has been slowed by the illness and death
of my father Good Friday. He's the guy standing in my shop in one of the
last pictures on the website. That was the last time he was in my shop and
he will be sorely missed.
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ben Charvet's Piet/Douglas fir
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Ben wrote-
>
> >I built an entire fuselage mock-up with some lumber yard douglas fir
> >that I bought before I really knew what the recommendations were
> >as far as grain slope, etc.
>
> I looked at Ben's construction photos and everything looks real nice to
me.
> But beyond that, I am going to stick my neck waaaay out and ask why in the
> world build that nice fuselage mock-up only to discard it due to some of
the
> wood grain slope being "out of spec"? It's fine to build a mock-up out of
> scrap for trying out different configurations of things, and it's fine to
do
> it for the sheer practice and learning to build, but I don't believe I've
> every read anything that says the grain slope is critical for any reason
> other than to control twist/warpage due to changes in moisture content of
> the wood UNLESS we're talking about wing spars. For a truss structure
like
> the fuselage, with short spans and everything cross-braced, grain slope as
a
> factor leading to twist or warpage would not only be insignificant, it
would
> have to all even itself out unless you intentionally aligned all the
pieces
> with the grain in the same direction... not very likely with that many
small
> pieces.
>
> There are differences in bending strength when comparing loading parallel
or
> perpendicular to the grain, but for the fuselage structure where the loads
> are tension/compression, I don't see that it would make a bit of
difference.
> If the stock is clear, knot-free, and has tight grain, I'd like to hear
> (for the purpose of my own education) why it wouldn't be suitable for the
> fuselage truss structure or even for the tail feathers (braced
structures).
>
> I will say this about Douglas fir though... it's a pain to make holes in
it
> when you're not drilling counter to the grain ("through the layers"). The
> layers of grain differ significantly in hardness and the "hard layers"
grab
> your drill bit and offset the hole you're trying to drill if you don't use
a
> guide or a short, stiff bit with the work held securely. Having built the
> entire structure of my "Flying Squirrel" out of 3/4" square stock fir,
I've
> made my share of slightly offset holes!
>
> >There are three other Piets under construction within 40 miles of me
>
> I must have missed it in your post. Where are you located?
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Splicing fuselage longerons? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ben Charvet" <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
Hi all,
Gordon has some sitka spruce available pretty near to me. Anyone out there
have any opinions or experience/advice about splicing fuselage longerons? I
read in the EAA wood book that some designs call for laminating up the
longerons, and It looks like a 16:1 scarf might work. What do you think?
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ben Charvet's Piet/Douglas fir
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Ben wrote-
>
> >I built an entire fuselage mock-up with some lumber yard douglas fir
> >that I bought before I really knew what the recommendations were
> >as far as grain slope, etc.
>
> I looked at Ben's construction photos and everything looks real nice to
me.
> But beyond that, I am going to stick my neck waaaay out and ask why in the
> world build that nice fuselage mock-up only to discard it due to some of
the
> wood grain slope being "out of spec"? It's fine to build a mock-up out of
> scrap for trying out different configurations of things, and it's fine to
do
> it for the sheer practice and learning to build, but I don't believe I've
> every read anything that says the grain slope is critical for any reason
> other than to control twist/warpage due to changes in moisture content of
> the wood UNLESS we're talking about wing spars. For a truss structure
like
> the fuselage, with short spans and everything cross-braced, grain slope as
a
> factor leading to twist or warpage would not only be insignificant, it
would
> have to all even itself out unless you intentionally aligned all the
pieces
> with the grain in the same direction... not very likely with that many
small
> pieces.
>
> There are differences in bending strength when comparing loading parallel
or
> perpendicular to the grain, but for the fuselage structure where the loads
> are tension/compression, I don't see that it would make a bit of
difference.
> If the stock is clear, knot-free, and has tight grain, I'd like to hear
> (for the purpose of my own education) why it wouldn't be suitable for the
> fuselage truss structure or even for the tail feathers (braced
structures).
>
> I will say this about Douglas fir though... it's a pain to make holes in
it
> when you're not drilling counter to the grain ("through the layers"). The
> layers of grain differ significantly in hardness and the "hard layers"
grab
> your drill bit and offset the hole you're trying to drill if you don't use
a
> guide or a short, stiff bit with the work held securely. Having built the
> entire structure of my "Flying Squirrel" out of 3/4" square stock fir,
I've
> made my share of slightly offset holes!
>
> >There are three other Piets under construction within 40 miles of me
>
> I must have missed it in your post. Where are you located?
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Splicing fuselage longerons? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <gcardinal@mn.rr.com>
Ben,
The longerons on NX18235 are spliced. Uppers
are spliced in the cockpit area and the
lowers are spliced aft. Splices were located
where the longerons curve the least. The
splices have a slope of 12:1.
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ben
> Charvet" <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
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> Hi all,
>
> Gordon has some sitka spruce available
> pretty near to me. Anyone out there
> have any opinions or experience/advice
> about splicing fuselage longerons? I
> read in the EAA wood book that some designs
> call for laminating up the
> longerons, and It looks like a 16:1 scarf
> might work. What do you think?
>
> Ben
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| Subject: | Re: Splicing fuselage longerons? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Ben, Greg is right. 12:1 is good enough. You can
laminate the longerones and they would be stronger,
however, the 1" X 1" spruce is plenty strong enough.
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> Ben,
> The longerons on NX18235 are spliced. Uppers
> are spliced in the cockpit area and the
> lowers are spliced aft. Splices were located
> where the longerons curve the least. The
> splices have a slope of 12:1.
>
> Greg Cardinal
> Minneapolis
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> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ben
> > Charvet" <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
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> > Hi all,
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> > Gordon has some sitka spruce available
> > pretty near to me. Anyone out there
> > have any opinions or experience/advice
> > about splicing fuselage longerons? I
> > read in the EAA wood book that some designs
> > call for laminating up the
> > longerons, and It looks like a 16:1 scarf
> > might work. What do you think?
> >
> > Ben
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