Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:52 AM - Re: dihedral vs. no dihedral final outcome (Michael D Cuy)
2. 06:01 AM - Re: Re: Thinking outside the box. Metric Plywood Shipping (N321TX@wmconnect.com)
3. 06:39 AM - 2nd Japanese Piet (M&M Stanley)
4. 09:58 AM - Alpha Aviation (Jim Markle)
5. 10:37 AM - Re: 2nd Japanese Piet (Galen Hutcheson)
6. 11:25 AM - Re: 2nd Japanese Piet (Michael D Cuy)
7. 02:58 PM - Fishermans Piet (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
8. 03:54 PM - Re: dihedral vs. no dihedral final outcome (Rcaprd@aol.com)
9. 04:03 PM - 0-235 (WPTCorp@aol.com)
10. 05:18 PM - Re: 0-235 (Ed G.)
11. 07:08 PM - Re: 0-235 (PIETLARS29@wmconnect.com)
12. 07:18 PM - Re: 0-235 (Jim Thursby)
13. 11:40 PM - Re: 0-235 (Gordon Bowen)
14. 11:47 PM - Re: 0-235 (Gordon Bowen)
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Subject: | Re: dihedral vs. no dihedral final outcome |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Walt--- Too cool ! Good for you. Like a flight instructor told me one
time when Frank Pavliga was giving me a hard
time about putting dihedral in my Piet (his wing is flat) "bird have it,
so why argue with God ?"
Mike C.
PS.....I love irritating the crap out of the purist Pietenpol crowd !
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Subject: | Re: Thinking outside the box. Metric Plywood Shipping |
When I called Wicks, the gal on the phone said the plywood would have to ship
by truck. She didn't even mention any other method such as rolling up and
shipping in a round tube or small box that UPS could work with. Same thing
happened at Aircraft Spruce when I called them... "has to go by motor freight..."
they said.
Russ Chambers (at Alpha Aviation) must be in his late 70s and right off the
bat, he said he could roll up the plywood and ship it by UPS.
Russ (unlike the gals) handles not only the phone orders, but shipping,
ordering, sweeping the floors and unlocking the doors.
My pun, "thinking outside the box" should have suggested that Russ was
thinking not only outside the box, but a way to ship plywood inside the box.
Sterling Brooks
Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch
5TA6 San Antonio Sectional
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Subject: | 2nd Japanese Piet |
Hi to everyone on the Piet list,
Just thought I would drop a quick note. I've been reading peoples comments
on this list for quite some time now. I must say that most of it is pretty
good and I've learned some very useful stuff about building a Piet.
A while back, Mike Cuy commented about a Japanese based Piet. The builder of
that one is a good friend of mine.
Basically, I am Australian, living here for a while with my lovely wife, I
repair damaged sailplanes for a living, fly R/C models as well as full size
when I can get a seat. I own 2 sailplanes in Australia, one vintage design
(all wood) and one FRP.
I had always liked the Piet design but after meeting him and seeing his
'Piet in progress', it got me fired up enough to start building.
Time is a big problem (not to mention space), I have been slowly playing
around with it for about a year. I am still building ribs. (20 are
complete). This is not exactly a speed record for building ribs but some
progress is better than no progress!
I am using Douglas Fir for the ribs.
I bought a nice piece of it and then cut all of the cap strip material from
it. I have already cut enough strip and made a 'kit' of rib parts so now I
am just gluing my 'kit' together.
I had planned to do the metal fittings but you can't but 4130 over here and
the freight cost's from the USA are fairly high so I will wait until later.
After the ribs are completed, I may built the tailfeathers as they don't
take up too much storage space.
I have attached a couple of photos, one is of the first of my ribs being
built in the shadow of Mr.Mita's Piet, and the other one was taken when I
completed one wing panels worth of ribs.
Anyway, enough rambling from me at the moment! It is great to be able to
read what others are doing and to know that someone will probably have
answers to any areas that I may get stuck with as the Piet progress's along.
When we move back to OZ (Australia), the Piet project will go with. This
project will take a while but that's no problem.
So, that's it for now, I will post a message occasionally now that I have
started.
Regards to all.
Mark Stanley
Japan
(for now)
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DNA: do not archive
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Subject: | Re: 2nd Japanese Piet |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Welcome aboard Mark,
Ribs look good, and certainly to plans. You will find
folks here more than anxious to help out. We are very
interested in everyone who is building and before
long, everyone becomes a member of the Piet family.
The lovely thing about the Piet is it's versitility.
You can build strictly to plans or you can modify it
to fit your own specific needs. Have fun building and
keep making progress.
Doc
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Subject: | Re: 2nd Japanese Piet |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
G' Day mate.....good to see you on the list, Mark Stanley. Good on
ya. I like that-- you building ribs in the
shadow of Mita San's Air Camper fuselage !
Well, now that I've used up all the OZ slang I've learned, it's time for me
to sign off !
PS......tell the guys about your R/C Piet...and flying it over Tokyo bay !!!!!
Mike C.
do not archive
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
Mike Cuy: Fishermans Piet should be easy to spot. He was going to use
rope to save money on control cables! Leon S. Do not archive
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Subject: | Re: dihedral vs. no dihedral final outcome |
In a message dated 5/5/2005 7:53:32 AM Central Standard Time,
Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes:
"bird have it,
so why argue with God ?"
Mike C.
PS.....I love irritating the crap out of the purist Pietenpol crowd !
Yeah, but if God would have intended Pietenpols to have dihedral, he would
have influenced Bernard Harold Pietenpol to put it in !! :)
Chuck G.
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Has any one put 0-235 lycoming on a piet?
Here in Wyoming at 5500 feet the corvair is having a little trouble.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed G." <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
I think one of the guys across the pond said they had one over there.He said
it " ascended like an angel going to heaven" I believe is how he put
it.....Do not archive
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>Subject: Pietenpol-List: 0-235
>Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:02:53 EDT
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>Has any one put 0-235 lycoming on a piet?
>Here in Wyoming at 5500 feet the corvair is having a little trouble.
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Hi;
There was a jenny/mod Piet here in Florida with an O-235 a while back.
The local scuttlebutt was that it flew like a bird AND landed in trees a few
times; don't know if that was due to the 0-235. Rather suspect not, but I
heard it was heavy too. Take this as pure rumor as far as facts are concerned.
Lou Larsen
PS Big day last week; I 'hung' the 'A' in the airframe.
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There is a gent named George Read from Twelve Oaks Florida who's Piet is
powered with a 235. It has a lot of mods. Does about a hundred cruise and
climbs about a thousand a minute.
Jim T.
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WPTCorp@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:03 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 0-235
Has any one put 0-235 lycoming on a piet?
Here in Wyoming at 5500 feet the corvair is having a little trouble.
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I have an older 100 hp o-235 with GM starter in N-1033B, a modified Piete. The
old C-85 was badly damaged in the crash back in '96. Jumps in the air now like
a rabbit. N-1033B was built by Dick Griede in '87 to use Aeronca wings, he
had moved the wings back (or fuselage forward-for nitpickin' purest) to 18" behind
the firewall. With my 280lbs, CG balances nicely. Passenger's cg is just
a few inches behind empty CG. These Aeronca wings have gross wt. 1300 capacity,
so it's real hard for me to overload it considering the squeeze to get into
the front seat. The plane with 0-235 came in at 680 lbs. There's another
guy in S. Africa that is flying a 0.235 powered Piete, he sent me a nice picture.
With this additional weight for this engine vs C-85, if you're under 150
lbs, you'll have to put ballast in the tail. Purest------please disregard the
above message or go take your meds.
Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
Cozy IV N64CY
Osprey II N64SY
Pietenpol N-1033B
" But such is the constitution of my mind I cannot avoid forming an opinion", John
Adams
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From: WPTCorp@aol.com
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Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 0-235
Has any one put 0-235 lycoming on a piet?
Here in Wyoming at 5500 feet the corvair is having a little trouble.
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N-1033B Piet is sitting in hanger #8 at Palatka FL Kay Larkin Airport for any
of you FL folks that want to look at a flying modified Piete with an O-235. Anybody
wanting a looksee, let me know. Co-owner/rebuilder Floyd Jackson lives
in Satsuma.
Gordon Bowen
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From: Jim Thursby
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 0-235
There is a gent named George Read from Twelve Oaks Florida who's Piet is powered
with a 235. It has a lot of mods. Does about a hundred cruise and climbs
about a thousand a minute.
Jim T.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of WPTCorp@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:03 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 0-235
Has any one put 0-235 lycoming on a piet?
Here in Wyoming at 5500 feet the corvair is having a little trouble.
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