---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/07/05:10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:38 AM - Dihedral in my R/C Piet (M&M Stanley) 2. 08:54 AM - Re: Dihedral in my R/C Piet (DJ Vegh) 3. 02:44 PM - test (Jeff Hill) 4. 03:01 PM - Re: test (walt evans) 5. 04:59 PM - 0-235 (WPTCorp@aol.com) 6. 05:13 PM - Aircamper T-shirt on Ebay (Sterling) 7. 07:40 PM - free Piet plans - r/c 1/7 scale (DJ Vegh) 8. 07:52 PM - Re: dihedral vs. speed (Dick Navratil) 9. 08:00 PM - Corvair Engines () 10. 10:55 PM - Re: Re: Thinking outside the box. Metric Plywood Shipping (TRichmo9@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:33 AM PST US From: "M&M Stanley" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dihedral in my R/C Piet Just reading all of the Dihedral talk, I like the idea of a built to the plans Piet,I want a Ford A and 1929 gear with wire wheels when mine is completed, but, I must say that a touch of dihedral; makes it look just that little bit better........ My model Piet has dihedral, works great, then again it needs it as it doesn't have ailerons! The little Piet has had 148 flights so far, it first flew in 2001. The shots are of it sitting on the shores of Tokyo Bay, I flew it as far out over the water as I dared just so I could say that it has flown over Tokyo Bay, I guess it is something that most Piets don't get a chance to do very often. The other shot was taken when I flew it at the site of the first powered flights in Japan. The monument in the background is the memorial to those early flight by the Japanese. Built rib #21 today, progress, progress....................... Regards to all Mark S Japan (for now) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:38 AM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dihedral in my R/C Piet hey! nice RC Piet! I built a 1/7th scale speed 400 electric Piet a couple years ago I've since converted it to an AC brushless motor and LiPoly batteries. flies for over 25 minutes on a charge. very quiet too. I'll give the plans away for free to anyone on this emial list... just email me and I can email them back. pics attached DJ Vegh www.imagedv.com/aircamper ----- Original Message ----- From: M&M Stanley To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 6:37 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dihedral in my R/C Piet Just reading all of the Dihedral talk, I like the idea of a built to the plans Piet,I want a Ford A and 1929 gear with wire wheels when mine is completed, but, I must say that a touch of dihedral; makes it look just that little bit better........ My model Piet has dihedral, works great, then again it needs it as it doesn't have ailerons! The little Piet has had 148 flights so far, it first flew in 2001. The shots are of it sitting on the shores of Tokyo Bay, I flew it as far out over the water as I dared just so I could say that it has flown over Tokyo Bay, I guess it is something that most Piets don't get a chance to do very often. The other shot was taken when I flew it at the site of the first powered flights in Japan. The monument in the background is the memorial to those early flight by the Japanese. Built rib #21 today, progress, progress....................... Regards to all Mark S Japan (for now) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:44:43 PM PST US From: "Jeff Hill" Subject: Pietenpol-List: test DNA: do not archive Its-Bogus: do not forward to list --- MIME Errors --- A message with no text/plain section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using plaintext formatting. NOTE! This error can also occur when the poster of the message has a specific type of computer virus. This virus WAS NOT forwarded on to the List. The poster should be informed of the potential problem with their system as soon as possible. --- MIME Errors --- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:48 PM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: test Jeff, Loud and clear. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Hill To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 4:43 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: test --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jeff Hill" test only, do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:47 PM PST US From: WPTCorp@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: 0-235 Have had some trouble with the email getting to me. So here is the same question again. It would sure help me if someone has some information on putting a 0-235 on a aircamper, my covair in Wyoming is a little weak so any or all information would help. Pictures,weight and balance , motor mounts etc. thanks Dave Calar N14961 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:33 PM PST US From: "Sterling" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aircamper T-shirt on Ebay What a deal. I wish I had one. Ebay item # 4548763352 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item4548763352#ebayphotohosting ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:16 PM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Pietenpol-List: free Piet plans - r/c 1/7 scale I got quite a few off line emails for the plans. rather than send out separate emails I'll just post a link to them I'll make them available for free. I'll keep the link active for one week. Please, these are for Piet list members only. I'm selling them on ebay to the general public. here ya go. They are in .pdf format and can be printed on large paper at a blueprint or copy shop for about $10. www.imagedv.com/aircamperplans_pietlist.zip and hey... while I'm at it, here's a link to the Cessna Citation II plans I drew a couple years ago (electric ducted fan power) www.imagedv.com/citationplans_pietlist.zip DJ Vegh N74DV ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:01 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: dihedral vs. speed My speeds are about the same as Mike and Chuck. Also I have a one piece wing with 1 1/2" dihedral at tips. It flys very stable. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:18 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: dihedral vs. speed Walt, I'm seeing speeds very similar to Mike C., with my A65 and homebuilt 72 X 42 prop. The next time I have to pull the prop, I'll probably rework it a little bit to get more RPM, for a better take-off and climb. I'm still very intrigued with the Scimitar Prop, and hope to build one some day, using Eric Clutton's guide. Full power level flight, my adjusted tach reading is 2200 RPM. The A65 is rated at 2300 RPM. I have errors in my tach reading, as well as my ASI, and have adjusted these errors to conclude the speeds. I've done a few flight tests with the GPS, but neglected to put the results in my log...oh well...guess I'll have to go do the tests again. Hey, theres a good reason to go fly !! As far as your increased speed with the dihedral, I'm betting you had some washout rigged into your original configuration, and don't have washout in the re-rigged dihedral wing. The penalty for washout, is drag. The hershy bar planform of the Pietenpol wing does Not need washout, because it naturally stalls inboard first. That said, I think I saw somewhere that BHP did put a tiny little bit of washout in the wing, probably just to err on the side of washout. Chuck G. NX770CG ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:05 PM PST US From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Engines This my first post to this page. I'm Paul Carter proud owner of two corvair engines and plans from Don Pietenpol. I've sat back and read all these messages about your Piets and just had to contribute something. I attended the Low Country Corviar show in Charleston SC today and met Cecil Flowers Jr. He owns Flowers Auto Sales and specializes in Corvairs. He said he has 4 Corvair 110 hp engines he will sell. He lives in Lincolnton, NC. phone number: 704-732-1449 no E-mail ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:55:56 PM PST US From: TRichmo9@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Thinking outside the box. Metric Plywood Shipping In a message dated 5/5/05 8:02:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, N321TX@wmconnect.com writes: When I called Wicks, the gal on the phone said the plywood would have to ship by truck. She didn't even mention any other method such as rolling up and shipping in a round tube or small box that UPS could work with. Same thing happened at Aircraft Spruce when I called them... "has to go by motor freight..." they said. Russ Chambers (at Alpha Aviation) must be in his late 70s and right off the bat, he said he could roll up the plywood and ship it by UPS. Russ (unlike the gals) handles not only the phone orders, but shipping, ordering, sweeping the floors and unlocking the doors. My pun, "thinking outside the box" should have suggested that Russ was thinking not only outside the box, but a way to ship plywood inside the box. Sterling Brooks Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch 5TA6 San Antonio Sectional sterling i was on a trip last weekend and stopped by wicks to get some t-88 glue,just a quart kit,they acted like i was putting them out with my little order. ill never go back, ill order from aircraft spruce from now on tom