Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 05/17/05


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:41 AM - Bob Lyjack (Michael D Cuy)
     2. 07:22 AM - Re: Spars (Rick Holland)
     3. 08:50 AM - Re: Bob Lyjack (John Hofmann)
     4. 10:46 AM - Brodhead (Robert Gow)
     5. 05:32 PM - Re: Bob Lyjack (FTLovley@aol.com)
     6. 07:15 PM - Re: Bob Lyjack (John Hofmann)
     7. 10:59 PM - Re: Bob Lyjack (Clif Dawson)
     8. 11:04 PM - Re: Spars (TRichmo9@aol.com)
     9. 11:48 PM - spars (TRichmo9@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:41:20 AM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: Bob Lyjack
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> WOW John Hoffman---- Bob Lyjack was incredible. Is he still kicking do you know ? I loved that snap roll on takeoff with that big old taperwing huffing more smoke than either Chuck or I could ever hope to generate ! At the Cleveland Airshow in the late 1960's as a kid I recall some kind of biplane that was called the Mennen Special. It was sponsored by the Mennen after shave producers and they mixed the after shave with the smoke oil so every time he made a pass during his routine (was it Kent Pietcsh ?) you'd get a whiff of the after shave. I apologize for mis-spelling Art Scholl's name in my previous posting. Mike C. do not archive


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    Time: 07:22:36 AM PST US
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Spars
    Bill sells plans for his 3 foot CC and other real handy Piet building hints for a few bucks. His address is in the archives. On 5/16/05, Rcaprd@aol.com <Rcaprd@aol.com> wrote: > > Dave, > I think you meant your Ribs were built with 1" opening. > That's the way I built mine too. However, I used 3/4" X 4 3/4" Douglas Fir > spars (quarter sawn), and used 1/8" plywood shims, front and back, at each > rib location - to maintain the spar location according to plans. > As far as widening the center section, the advantage would be to be able > to carry more fuel in the wing. The *BIG* Disadvantage is the multitude of > things that will change as a result. Bill Rewey widened his center section, > and goes to Brodhead every year. He would be the one to talk with, if you > are really serious about widening your center section. > Chuck G. > NX770CG > -- Rick Holland


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    Time: 08:50:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bob Lyjack
    From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com> Mike, As an impressionable youth in the late 70s I always remember "Professor Bob Lyjack in the WACO Taperwing." I still hear the announcer call in my head. I did see his last performance in about 1991 and I think he is still with us. I used to love watching the reaction of people to that double-snap on takeoff with all that smoke and noise....and lack of airpseed. I still get goose bumps thinking of it. Bobby Younkin does a recent version the same in Samson. I remember the "Mennen Skin Bracer Special" too. I want to think that was "Big Nick" Rezich. Vintage Airplane is running a bunch of articles written by Nick in the mid-70s and his brother Frank is still working on Travel Airs in California. -john- P.S. I think the Fisherman does the same routine in his Ercoupe.... Do not archive. > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > WOW John Hoffman---- Bob Lyjack was incredible. Is he still kicking do > you know ? > > I loved that snap roll on takeoff with that big old taperwing huffing more > smoke than either Chuck or I could ever > hope to generate ! > > At the Cleveland Airshow in the late 1960's as a kid I recall some kind of > biplane that was called the Mennen Special. > It was sponsored by the Mennen after shave producers and they mixed the > after shave with the smoke oil so every time > he made a pass during his routine (was it Kent Pietcsh ?) you'd get a whiff > of the after shave. > > I apologize for mis-spelling Art Scholl's name in my previous posting. > > Mike C. > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:46:53 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
    Subject: Brodhead
    I'm wondering where I can find information on the fly-in at Brodhead this year if there is going to be one?


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    Time: 05:32:04 PM PST US
    From: FTLovley@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Bob Lyjack
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: FTLovley@aol.com The pilot for Mennen was Ed (Big Ed) Mahler flying a PJ-260. He later died in the airplane because he disregarded a broken tail strut that he didn't think he needed. Forrest Lovley


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    Time: 07:15:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bob Lyjack
    From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com> Thanks for the clarification Forrest. I do remember that now. Too many "Big Ed's" running around back then. I am in the slow process of digitizing the old "American Airman" magazine. There are some great articles that I hope others will enjoy. Anyway, there are a couple of pieces about Bob Lyjack as a young man soloing in a Ryan ST with another airshow great, Bill Barber, as his instructor. I hope to have this project done before I am dead...along with the T-Craft, Pietenpol, Travel Air, lawn, garden, bathroom, paint the porch, run the business... -john- > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: FTLovley@aol.com > > The pilot for Mennen was Ed (Big Ed) Mahler flying a PJ-260. He later died > in the airplane because he disregarded a broken tail strut that he didn't > think > he needed. > Forrest Lovley > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:59:53 PM PST US
    From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Bob Lyjack
    <5.1.1.5.2.20050517090251.01898c78@popserve.grc.nasa.gov> Bud Granley at Arlington- takeoff snaproll in Harvard ( T-6). Back in the Harvard's military days the mechanics would run these things straight at the hanger then at the precisely right moment slam the rudder and this 5000 lb monster would pirouette on the spot and roll right straight backwards into it's parking spot among the others. I dismissed this as one of those hanger tale stories until I saw Bud do it to park between a Yak and his sons Harvard on the flight line at a local airshow. I still don't believe it! Clif do not archive > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > WOW John Hoffman---- Bob Lyjack was incredible. Is he still kicking do > you know ? > > I loved that snap roll on takeoff with that big old taperwing huffing more > smoke than either Chuck or I could ever hope to generate > do not archive


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    Time: 11:04:00 PM PST US
    From: TRichmo9@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Spars
    In a message dated 5/16/05 6:02:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gcardinal@mn.rr.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <gcardinal@mn.rr.com> Dave, I have an article from an early 1960's Sport Aviation on designing a built-up spar. I'll send out a copy to anyone who sends an SASE to: Greg Cardinal 5236 Shoreview Ave. So. Minneapolis, MN 55417 > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dave > Esslinger" <aquanaut@indy.rr.com> > > Guys, I'm getting ready to start my wings > and I'm looking for suggestions. > My spars are built with a one inch wide > opening per the plans but the > supplemental plans for the 3 piece wing > call for 3/4" spar material. I see > no reason to not use 1" material except the > price. Aircraft Spruce wants > about 600.00 for the spar material and > before I fork out that kind of money > I wanted to see if that's the best way to > go. It seems like a shame to pay > for all that spruce and then route almost > half of it out. Has anyone done a > laminated plywood spar? Seems like it would > certainly be strong enough. > Also, is there any advantage/disadvantage > to widening the center section? > Any help or suggestions would be > appreciated. > Thanks, Dave > --- mark markle sent me pics of your plane its awsome i love the wicker seats.tom


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    Time: 11:48:27 PM PST US
    From: TRichmo9@aol.com
    Subject: spars
    i got a set of plans from a friend of the british box spars and quick connects, they need some work but are useable im going to copy and redraft them if anyone wants a set let me know i just want the cost of copying them tom




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