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1. 01:24 AM - Re: Pam (Jim Ash)
2. 04:44 AM - Re: Pam (Isablcorky@aol.com)
3. 08:25 AM - Rear lower seatbelt attach advice (Rick Holland)
4. 08:30 AM - Re: Rear lower seatbelt attach advice (Phillips, Jack)
5. 01:58 PM - Re: Rear lower seatbelt attach advice (Dick Navratil)
6. 04:43 PM - Re: Rear lower seatbelt attach advice (Peter W Johnson)
7. 05:44 PM - Re: Rear lower seatbelt attach advice (Rick Holland)
8. 08:00 PM - Re: Pam (Rcaprd@aol.com)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
Somewhere I have a vague recollection of somebody else using Pledge to keep
that plane lemony-fresh.
Jim Ash
At 5/19/2005 02:34 PM -0400, you wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Frank Metcalfe"
><fmetcalf@bellsouth.net>
>
>I have a freind that sprays his plane with lemond Pleage. He swares that the
>bugs that do stick (down about 90%) wipe off with dry cloth.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michael D
>Cuy
>Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:13 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pam
>
>
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
><Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
>Guys-- a friend was telling me he sprays PAM cooking stuff on his
>grill/front of his van when he travels long distances
>and I thought.....hmmm...I wonder if this wouldn't be bad to use on the
>prop, nosebowl, gear legs and wing leading edge ???
>
>why not !
>
>Mike C.
>
>
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Pieters,
On the subject of slippery stuff, I caution all to step lively when using
Pride or Pledge or even Maquires fine wax. Usually on labels of products they
furnish an 800 number for customer inquiries. I would certainly use the number
before I used the product. What I'm trying to say is avoid any product
containing silicone. After spending 48 years in the Piano business I can assure
you that you will never be able to repaint a siliconed surface satisfactorily.
Corky in warming up Louisiana
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| Subject: | Rear lower seatbelt attach advice |
Have gone through the archieves looking for advice on rear lower seatbelt
attachment and would like some advice. Sounds like most people just drill a
5/16" hole in the bottom longerons with 1/8" ply on both sides. Just want to
make sure I am not weakening the longerons with these big holes. Also, which
is better, drilling the holes horizontal or vertical? I believe Mike Cuy
mentioned on his video that he just glued a and gusseted a block to the
longerons and bolted the belts to that.
Figured I would consult the GN-1 plans for some guidance and couldn't find a
thing about it.
Thanks
--
Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Rear lower seatbelt attach advice |
FAA requires seatbelts to be attached to the main structure. With that
in mind, I drilled the holes through the lower longerons and doublers.
Put the holes in the horizontal plane, and drill them through the middle
of the longeron (neutral axis) so they have minimal effect on the
strength of the longeron. The seatbelts need to be capable of
withstanding a 20 G load, so with a 200 lb pilot, that is a 4,000 lb
load.
Jack Phillips, PE
Sr. Manager, Disposables Product Development
Clinical Technologies and Services
Cardinal Health
Creedmoor, NC
(919) 528-5212
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rear lower seatbelt attach advice
Have gone through the archieves looking for advice on rear lower
seatbelt attachment and would like some advice. Sounds like most people
just drill a 5/16" hole in the bottom longerons with 1/8" ply on both
sides. Just want to make sure I am not weakening the longerons with
these big holes. Also, which is better, drilling the holes horizontal or
vertical? I believe Mike Cuy mentioned on his video that he just glued a
and gusseted a block to the longerons and bolted the belts to that.
Figured I would consult the GN-1 plans for some guidance and couldn't
find a thing about it.
Thanks
--
Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Re: Rear lower seatbelt attach advice |
I ran a 1/8" cable from the tail wheel post with a "Y" to eachside of the seat
and to the top for the shoulder harness.
The inspector loved it.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rear lower seatbelt attach advice
Have gone through the archieves looking for advice on rear lower seatbelt attachment
and would like some advice. Sounds like most people just drill a 5/16"
hole in the bottom longerons with 1/8" ply on both sides. Just want to make sure
I am not weakening the longerons with these big holes. Also, which is better,
drilling the holes horizontal or vertical? I believe Mike Cuy mentioned on
his video that he just glued a and gusseted a block to the longerons and bolted
the belts to that.
Figured I would consult the GN-1 plans for some guidance and couldn't find a
thing about it.
Thanks
--
Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Rear lower seatbelt attach advice |
Rick,
I reinforced the area around the seat. Check out http://www.cpc-world.com
<http://www.cpc-world.com/> , Building photos page 2. Images are around
image_0265.jpg.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi, Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com <http://www.cpc-world.com/>
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rear lower seatbelt attach advice
Have gone through the archieves looking for advice on rear lower seatbelt
attachment and would like some advice. Sounds like most people just drill a
5/16" hole in the bottom longerons with 1/8" ply on both sides. Just want to
make sure I am not weakening the longerons with these big holes. Also, which
is better, drilling the holes horizontal or vertical? I believe Mike Cuy
mentioned on his video that he just glued a and gusseted a block to the
longerons and bolted the belts to that.
Figured I would consult the GN-1 plans for some guidance and couldn't find a
thing about it.
Thanks
--
Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Re: Rear lower seatbelt attach advice |
Thanks Dick, but how did you attach your rear lap belts?
On 5/20/05, Dick Navratil <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
>
> I ran a 1/8" cable from the tail wheel post with a "Y" to eachside of the
> seat and to the top for the shoulder harness.
> The inspector loved it.
> Dick N.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2005 10:25 AM
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Rear lower seatbelt attach advice
>
> Have gone through the archieves looking for advice on rear lower seatbelt
> attachment and would like some advice. Sounds like most people just drill a
> 5/16" hole in the bottom longerons with 1/8" ply on both sides. Just want to
> make sure I am not weakening the longerons with these big holes. Also, which
> is better, drilling the holes horizontal or vertical? I believe Mike Cuy
> mentioned on his video that he just glued a and gusseted a block to the
> longerons and bolted the belts to that.
>
> Figured I would consult the GN-1 plans for some guidance and couldn't find
> a thing about it.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Rick Holland
>
>
--
Rick Holland
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In a message dated 5/20/2005 6:45:22 AM Central Standard Time,
Isablcorky@aol.com writes:
What I'm trying to say is avoid any product containing silicone. After
spending 48 years in the Piano business I can assure you that you will never be
able
to repaint a siliconed surface satisfactorily.
I found the same thing to be true, when I used to paint cars. The wet paint
would have hundreds of little 'fish eyes' in it. If you use a product from
the local paint shop, called Fish Eyes (comes in a small brown bottle) it
eliminates the problem. It's a small bottle with an eye dropper in it. You use
one
eyedropper full for each quart of mixed paint. Put it in right before you're
ready to spray, and mix well.
Chuck G.
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