---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/27/05: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:48 AM - Re: Gene's seat belt attach advice (Rick Holland) 2. 06:55 AM - Re: Rear lower seatbelt attach advice (Rick Holland) 3. 04:59 PM - UPDATE - don't grab your hot exhaust! (DJ Vegh) 4. 06:29 PM - Re: UPDATE - don't grab your hot exhaust! (Isablcorky@aol.com) 5. 07:47 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 05/25/05 (Matt Keyes) 6. 08:10 PM - Re: Pitch Trimming (Christian Bobka) 7. 09:26 PM - Re: UPDATE - don't grab your hot exhaust! (DJ Vegh) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:52 AM PST US From: Rick Holland Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gene's seat belt attach advice Thank you Mike. I like the idea of not drilling a 5/16" hole through the bottom longerons. Rick H On 6/25/05, Michael D Cuy wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy < > Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > Rick---though you've already gotten some very good input on your question, > if it is any comfort, I did my attach > anchor method just like Gene Hubbard although used a poplar wood block > about 2"x 3" glued above the lower longeron > with 1/8" piece of ply glued over that block and the longeron, drilled > thru > and anchored the JC Whitney airline-type buckles > to that. I can tell you that after encountering severe hot weather > turbulence around Chicago enroute to Wisconsin > that they held me fine thru what I'm sure was negative g turbulence. The > only problem I really had was keeping my > hand gripped to the stick. Solution---just grab the stick a little lower:) > > Mike C. > > > > -- Rick Holland ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:00 AM PST US From: Rick Holland Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rear lower seatbelt attach advice Thanks Gene, wish I was as far along as you so I could worry about electrical stuff. Rick H do not archive On 5/23/05, Gene Hubbard wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gene Hubbard < > enhubbard@sbcglobal.net> > > Rick, > > It's one of the things that I worried about for a long time too. No > real suggestions on the plans. I glued (T-88) a piece of longeron > material above the real longeron behind the seat and mounted a 1 x .090 > steel strap to that. I think I used two AN4 bolts with flat heads and > Tinnerman washers. I bent a tab on the front of the strap for the 5/16" > hole to hold the seat belt tab. I also put a hole in the back of the > strap for a cable to the tailpost, but haven't run the cable (and may > never). I didn't feel good about drilling through the longeron itself, > but since the Piet has about twice the beef in the longerons as any > comperable plane, I wouldn't expect it to be a problem. > > I'm finally running out of excuses not to cover mine. The last > remaining excuses have to do with how much electrical wiring to do (a la > Bengalis) before covering it all over. I finally have to make decisions > about starter, generator, avionics, and so forth. > > Gene Hubbard > San Diego > > > Rick Holland wrote: > > > Have gone through the archieves looking for advice on rear lower > > seatbelt attachment and would like some advice. Sounds like most > > people just drill a 5/16" hole in the bottom longerons with 1/8" ply > > on both sides. Just want to make sure I am not weakening the longerons > > with these big holes. Also, which is better, drilling the holes > > horizontal or vertical? I believe Mike Cuy mentioned on his video that > > he just glued a and gusseted a block to the longerons and bolted the > > belts to that. > > > > Figured I would consult the GN-1 plans for some guidance and couldn't > > find a thing about it. > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > Rick Holland > > > > -- Rick Holland ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:03 PM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Pietenpol-List: UPDATE - don't grab your hot exhaust! great news!! my hand has healed faster than you can believe!! It's simply amazing. I have full range of motion and am able to use my hand about 90% to it's capacity. It's only been a little under a week. The key to it all is the burn cream the hospital gave me. Amazing stuff! My blisters shrunk up and were almost non-existant by yesterday. I still have no feeling in the affected area but overall it's looking very good. I was off the pain killers the 2nd day. (good too cause now I have some extras ) I'm so relieved because the thought of not being able to use my right hand for a couple weeks was killing me. DJ (yeehaw) Vegh ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:45 PM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: UPDATE - don't grab your hot exhaust! Sure would like to know the name of that cream. It's good to hear of your speedy recovery. Corky ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:05 PM PST US s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=pQHroYhTUFmc3D7IEntS8RpFQ0UPPbPO/PxfMJckcNs/G5YX8cJgY129S9UBuKbBNSbyeEfYqctk11zrQmV5QLwvHOupo+Q0AHYXlt/Y0RuNH+fnvSiDcTHGjKD29Y8HpXQGb9Gn2J+fMtf0a/K9x+msS5peSh1E674TdT/DrSg= ; From: Matt Keyes Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 05/25/05 Everyone, What are the dates on the Brodhead Fly-In this year. I need to make sure I requested the right days off work. Thanks, Matt Keyes Richland Center, WI ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:04 PM PST US d="scan'208"; a="952603471:sNHT34942996" From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pitch Trimming --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" thanks forrest. Chris Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pitch Trimming > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: FTLovley@aol.com > > Chris...be really carefull while flying a Continental powered Pietenpol with > its extra forward side area while having a CG at 20 inches aft of the leading > edge. It will probably fly just fine, but if you spin it , you will be in > deep do-do. They are even worse if the landing gear V's are covered with fabric, > increasing the forward area. Also, be careful slipping the airplane close to > the ground, as they can sometimes take extra time to recover. I've been away > from the Piets for a while, but my memory is still good, and I learned some > of this stuff the hard way. I had 1000 hours in Pietenpols before I was old > enough to vote, but that was back when I was bullet proof and invisible. Fly > Safe... > Forrest Lovley > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:17 PM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: UPDATE - don't grab your hot exhaust! silver sulfadiazine (aka Silvadene) It works wonders!!! if any of you ever get a burn, go see your doc and have him/her give you the stuff. DJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Isablcorky@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 6:29 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: UPDATE - don't grab your hot exhaust! Sure would like to know the name of that cream. It's good to hear of your speedy recovery. Corky