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1. 06:51 AM - Re: flying at 19 or 20" of aft CG (Wizzard187@aol.com)
2. 07:51 AM - Aircraft Plywood (Galen Hutcheson)
3. 08:12 AM - Re: Aircraft Plywood (Galen Hutcheson)
4. 08:36 AM - Tailwheel control schemes (Rick Holland)
5. 10:10 AM - Re: Aircraft Plywood (Galen Hutcheson)
6. 11:58 AM - Removing cadnium coating (Rick Holland)
7. 05:34 PM - Latex paint for homebuilts (Carl Vought)
8. 05:57 PM - Re: Aircraft Plywood (Christian Bobka)
9. 06:01 PM - tailskid/brakes/asphalt (Douwe Blumberg)
10. 06:27 PM - Re: tailskid/brakes/asphalt (Gordon Bowen)
11. 07:44 PM - Re: Aircraft Plywood (Galen Hutcheson)
12. 07:47 PM - Re: flying at 19 or 20" of aft CG (Christian Bobka)
13. 11:14 PM - Re: Latex paint for homebuilts (Rcaprd@aol.com)
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Subject: | Re: flying at 19 or 20" of aft CG |
Pieters, I am putting a cont 75 on my piet but am solving the CG problem
with a Beech Roby mechanical verible pitch prop that weighs 27 pounds on
the nose and a WWII centrifical crank starter mounted on the back of my cont
-9 that weighs about 30 pounds. This offsets my 220 pounds in the back
seat. These are goodies that I found in the Aero Mart at Os Gosh. I don't
know if it will all work but sure having fun building it. I bought the
engine 30 years ago for $30.00 off a air boat and hoped they put good engines
on
airboats back then but am now getting the crank and cam reground . So if
you ever see a piet with a maple crank sticking out the side it will probably
be mine. This two year project is going on five. I just turned 70 so got
to hurry.
Ken Conrad is Sunny Iowa
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Subject: | Aircraft Plywood |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Hi Pieters,
I have an oppertunity to buy 10 sheets (4'X 8') of
3/32" 45 degree mahagony aircraft plywood for a real
bargin. To get the low price I have to buy the whole
10 sheets. I can buy them for $125 per sheet if I buy
all 10. They sell for $194.95 per sheet in Aircraft
Spruce in the catalog I have. I only need 5 sheets
and would like to sell the other sheets at my cost
plus shipping. This is great plywood for box spars or
many other applications. I will have to know if
anyone is interested very soon as the guy who has them
is getting ready to advertise them and I think they
will sell pretty quickly. I have not seen the plywood
as yet, but will go and inspect them if there are any
who interested in buying them. I will need to sell 5
sheets and will cut them if needed to help on shipping
if the buyer wants me to. Please let me know soon.
Thanks.
Doc
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Subject: | Re: Aircraft Plywood |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
I forgot to mention that when I go and inspect the
plywood, I can take some pics and will email the pics
to anyone interested. I will also try to barter a
even lower price if I can find buyers for the 5 sheets
I don't need. This is a great price on this plywood
and I am excited about finding it. As I stated, I
will sell it for the actual cost of the plywood plus
whatever the shipping costs are (we have UPS and
Fedex). If you are close, then driving here to pick
them up would save by not having to ship. Again,
thanks and happy holiday.
Doc
--- Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen
> Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
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> Hi Pieters,
>
> I have an oppertunity to buy 10 sheets (4'X 8') of
> 3/32" 45 degree mahagony aircraft plywood for a real
> bargin. To get the low price I have to buy the
> whole
> 10 sheets. I can buy them for $125 per sheet if I
> buy
> all 10. They sell for $194.95 per sheet in Aircraft
> Spruce in the catalog I have. I only need 5 sheets
> and would like to sell the other sheets at my cost
> plus shipping. This is great plywood for box spars
> or
> many other applications. I will have to know if
> anyone is interested very soon as the guy who has
> them
> is getting ready to advertise them and I think they
> will sell pretty quickly. I have not seen the
> plywood
> as yet, but will go and inspect them if there are
> any
> who interested in buying them. I will need to sell
> 5
> sheets and will cut them if needed to help on
> shipping
> if the buyer wants me to. Please let me know soon.
> Thanks.
>
> Doc
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Subject: | Tailwheel control schemes |
After reading many archive messages about tailwheel control setup it appears
that many people have seen a need to make the tailwheel control less
sensitive than the rudder control. I am assuming I will want this also so I
figure its easier to build it in now that later. Have seen many ingenious
methods to do this but the 'Hanging two tubes off the bellcrank tube' method
in the attached photo seems to be the cleanest I have found so far. And by
placing multiple tabs or holes in the hanging tubes the sensitivity can be
easily changed. (Sorry I don't know the name of the builder to give him
credit).
Opinions?
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, CO
(Density altitude up to 8356 ft. currently, and its not even hot yet!)
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Subject: | Re: Aircraft Plywood |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Hello Gang,
Now there are only 4 sheets remaining, one person has
committed to buying one sheet. Thanks.
Doc
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--- Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen
> Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
>
> I forgot to mention that when I go and inspect the
> plywood, I can take some pics and will email the
> pics
> to anyone interested. I will also try to barter a
> even lower price if I can find buyers for the 5
> sheets
> I don't need. This is a great price on this plywood
> and I am excited about finding it. As I stated, I
> will sell it for the actual cost of the plywood plus
> whatever the shipping costs are (we have UPS and
> Fedex). If you are close, then driving here to pick
> them up would save by not having to ship. Again,
> thanks and happy holiday.
>
> Doc
> --- Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen
> > Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Hi Pieters,
> >
> > I have an oppertunity to buy 10 sheets (4'X 8') of
> > 3/32" 45 degree mahagony aircraft plywood for a
> real
> > bargin. To get the low price I have to buy the
> > whole
> > 10 sheets. I can buy them for $125 per sheet if I
> > buy
> > all 10. They sell for $194.95 per sheet in
> Aircraft
> > Spruce in the catalog I have. I only need 5
> sheets
> > and would like to sell the other sheets at my cost
> > plus shipping. This is great plywood for box spars
> > or
> > many other applications. I will have to know if
> > anyone is interested very soon as the guy who has
> > them
> > is getting ready to advertise them and I think
> they
> > will sell pretty quickly. I have not seen the
> > plywood
> > as yet, but will go and inspect them if there are
> > any
> > who interested in buying them. I will need to
> sell
> > 5
> > sheets and will cut them if needed to help on
> > shipping
> > if the buyer wants me to. Please let me know
> soon.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Doc
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Subject: | Removing cadnium coating |
Need to weld a couple AN7 bolt heads to a 4130 strap for my tailwheel
attachment. Other than sanding or wire brushing to remove the cadmium from
the bolts is their anything else I should do to ensure all the cadmuim is
removed. I know it is bad stuff to get hot.
Thanks
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Rick Holland
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Subject: | Latex paint for homebuilts |
Can anyone out there advise me on how to contact Kirk Hulzenga? He wrote a paper
on the subject and was referenced in The Winter 2003 SAA (p. 6) but his website
appears to be inactive....Carl Vought
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Subject: | Re: Aircraft Plywood |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
Galen,
Where are you located or where is the wood?
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: "Galen Hutcheson" <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aircraft Plywood
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson
<wacopitts@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Gang,
>
> Now there are only 4 sheets remaining, one person has
> committed to buying one sheet. Thanks.
>
> Doc
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> --- Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen
> > Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
> >
> > I forgot to mention that when I go and inspect the
> > plywood, I can take some pics and will email the
> > pics
> > to anyone interested. I will also try to barter a
> > even lower price if I can find buyers for the 5
> > sheets
> > I don't need. This is a great price on this plywood
> > and I am excited about finding it. As I stated, I
> > will sell it for the actual cost of the plywood plus
> > whatever the shipping costs are (we have UPS and
> > Fedex). If you are close, then driving here to pick
> > them up would save by not having to ship. Again,
> > thanks and happy holiday.
> >
> > Doc
> > --- Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen
> > > Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > Hi Pieters,
> > >
> > > I have an oppertunity to buy 10 sheets (4'X 8') of
> > > 3/32" 45 degree mahagony aircraft plywood for a
> > real
> > > bargin. To get the low price I have to buy the
> > > whole
> > > 10 sheets. I can buy them for $125 per sheet if I
> > > buy
> > > all 10. They sell for $194.95 per sheet in
> > Aircraft
> > > Spruce in the catalog I have. I only need 5
> > sheets
> > > and would like to sell the other sheets at my cost
> > > plus shipping. This is great plywood for box spars
> > > or
> > > many other applications. I will have to know if
> > > anyone is interested very soon as the guy who has
> > > them
> > > is getting ready to advertise them and I think
> > they
> > > will sell pretty quickly. I have not seen the
> > > plywood
> > > as yet, but will go and inspect them if there are
> > > any
> > > who interested in buying them. I will need to
> > sell
> > > 5
> > > sheets and will cut them if needed to help on
> > > shipping
> > > if the buyer wants me to. Please let me know
> > soon.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Doc
> > >
> > >
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Subject: | tailskid/brakes/asphalt |
I am building a brakeless, skid equipped Piet. But now I'm thinking that sometimes
I might want to be able to use a hardtop runway. I also know this is almost
impossible with a skid, yet i want to do everything I can to save weight back
there.
So my question is this.
what if I put brakes on, but instead of a tailwheel, put a longish
rubber keel on the shoe of the tailskid. Wouldn't this tend to keep the tail straight,
and resist sideskidding as much or more than a tailwheel? I can then
use the brakes and blasting the rudder for steering.
This is all armchair theorizing and I would appreciate any comments from people
who actually have experience to speak from.
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: tailskid/brakes/asphalt |
RE: Brakes in General. On N1033B I have 1941 vintage drum brakes with dual pull
cables on the stick. Been looking at nifty disc brakes and wheels that come
on 2 wheel drive ATV's front axles, has anybody tried these? Suppose one could
find a dead ATV somehere in a junk yard. Secondly, regarding tail wheels,
I've found, if you get off the hard tarmac and taxi in the grass, the tailwheel
assembly is a heck of a good brake, at least in FL sandy grass. With a loaded
wt of about 70 lbs on the tailwheel with my weight in pilot's seat, the little
tailwheel cuts into the grass/sand and requires engine thrust to keep moving.
On hard tarmac, existing brakes do basically nothing. Expect a skid plate
would be like throwing out a sea anchor.
Gordon Bowen
----- Original Message -----
From: Douwe Blumberg
To: pietenpolgroup
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 5:17 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tailskid/brakes/asphalt
I am building a brakeless, skid equipped Piet. But now I'm thinking that sometimes
I might want to be able to use a hardtop runway. I also know this is almost
impossible with a skid, yet i want to do everything I can to save weight
back there.
So my question is this.
what if I put brakes on, but instead of a tailwheel, put a longish
rubber keel on the shoe of the tailskid. Wouldn't this tend to keep the tail
straight, and resist sideskidding as much or more than a tailwheel? I can then
use the brakes and blasting the rudder for steering.
This is all armchair theorizing and I would appreciate any comments from people
who actually have experience to speak from.
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: Aircraft Plywood |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Chris, I'm in Harrison, Arkansas. That is in the
north part of the state. We are about 30 miles south
of Branson, MO.
Galen
--- Christian Bobka <sbobka@charter.net> wrote:
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Subject: | Re: flying at 19 or 20" of aft CG |
Ken,
where in IA are you located?
Chris
Minneapolis
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: Wizzard187@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying at 19 or 20" of aft CG
Pieters, I am putting a cont 75 on my piet but am solving the CG problem with
a Beech Roby mechanical verible pitch prop that weighs 27 pounds on the
nose and a WWII centrifical crank starter mounted on the back of my cont -9
that weighs about 30 pounds. This offsets my 220 pounds in the back seat.
These are goodies that I found in the Aero Mart at Os Gosh. I don't know if
it will all work but sure having fun building it. I bought the engine 30
years ago for $30.00 off a air boat and hoped they put good engines on airboats
back then but am now getting the crank and cam reground . So if you ever see
a piet with a maple crank sticking out the side it will probably be mine. This
two year project is going on five. I just turned 70 so got to hurry.
Ken Conrad is Sunny Iowa
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Subject: | Re: Latex paint for homebuilts |
In a message dated 5/30/2005 7:35:42 PM Central Standard Time,
carbarvo@knology.net writes:
Can anyone out there advise me on how to contact Kirk Hulzenga?
Carl,
I have a Kirk Huizenga e-mail address at KirkHuizenga@Moundsviewschools.com
Him and Bryan Eastep are from St. Paul MN
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