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1. 05:32 AM - Re: Re: Re: Cruise Speed (Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com)
2. 05:48 AM - golfing and touch and goes (Michael D Cuy)
3. 05:57 AM - Re: Cruise speed... (Robert Gow)
4. 06:12 AM - Re: Brodhead dates (Gene Rambo)
5. 06:12 AM - Re: golfing and touch and goes (Rick Holland)
6. 06:58 AM - Re: Re: Re: Cruise Speed (harvey.rule@bell.ca)
7. 07:20 AM - Need some answers (Isablcorky@aol.com)
8. 08:16 AM - Re: Need some answers (Gordon Bowen)
9. 08:44 AM - long overwater flight to Belize ? (Michael D Cuy)
10. 11:42 AM - Re: Need some answers (walt evans)
11. 12:22 PM - Re: Re: Cruise Speed (Norman Stapelberg)
12. 12:48 PM - Re: long overwater flight to Belize ? (Gordon Bowen)
13. 01:06 PM - Re: long overwater flight to Belize ? (Isablcorky@aol.com)
14. 03:51 PM - Re: Brodhead dates ()
15. 08:50 PM - Re: Re: Cruise Speed (N925WB1@aol.com)
16. 09:32 PM - Re: long overwater flight to Belize ? (Catdesign)
17. 10:29 PM - Re: long overwater flight to Belize ? (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Re: Cruise Speed |
I must agree on the Warp Drive prop. I have approx 180 hours on my Corvair
powered Piet, hand proping, with zero problems and very good performance. The
prop is a 70 inch with HP hub and blades. I also like being able to adjust
the prop for the kind of performance you need.
Have a great day, JIM
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| Subject: | golfing and touch and goes |
My buddy from work and I were golfing one summer and when we were teeing
off on No. 7 I told him that this
would be a perfect place to land the plane or to do a touch and go. That
winter, when all the golfers where home
by the fire, I did a touch (no, someone) did a touch and go on that
fairway. It was nice and firm-- I could have done
a full stop but thought better of it, not wanting to be on the 6 o'clock news.
Someone in the midwest:))
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Well I used to do the same thing with my chief on skis. Get about 20 feet
above Lake Simcoe (Ontario) with the sun behind you, slow down and put the
shadow the airplane right over a sled. It was funny to see the rider
looking around to see what was causing the shadow. The sun is low enough in
the winter that you can be far enough back that he cant see you without
turning right around. Slide back a few yards to give him some light then
sneak back up again. Repeat until bored.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of bike.mike
Sent: June 8, 2005 6:54 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cruise speed...
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From: Rcaprd@aol.com
[snip]
I often wonder what is going through the driver's mind, when he / she
sees a big shadow on the road up ahead !!
Someone I won't name was flying an Aeronca Champ over oil country in
Califonia, trying to keep the shadow on an oil tanker. On a whim, out on a
private, paved, oil company haul road, "someone" did a touch and go in front
of the tanker, leaving the wheels on the road for several hundred feet.
"Someone" then flew straight away, hoping the driver didn't get a look at
the 3" N-numbers. "Someone" wonders, every now and then, if that driver
still tells the story in some bar in Kern county.
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead dates |
I am sure it has been on here and I have missed it. What are the dates of this
year's Brodhead Piet fly-in?
Gene.
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| Subject: | Re: golfing and touch and goes |
Wow, just like Howard Hughes used to do with his Sikorsky, (you did see the
movie didn't you?).
http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Aerospace/Sikorsky/Aero24G4.jpg
According to the book he landed an S-38 on a golf course in Bevery Hills and
couldn't take off the next day so he had the Sikorsky taken apart and hauled
back to the airport to be put back together. So its a good thing you didn't
do a full stop Mike.
Rick H
On 6/9/05, Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> My buddy from work and I were golfing one summer and when we were teeing
> off on No. 7 I told him that this
> would be a perfect place to land the plane or to do a touch and go. That
> winter, when all the golfers where home
> by the fire, I did a touch (no, *someone) *did a touch and go on that
> fairway. It was nice and firm-- I could have done
> a full stop but thought better of it, not wanting to be on the 6 o'clock
> news.
>
> Someone in the midwest:))
>
--
Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Re: Cruise Speed |
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All I'm saying is I know of at least 3 pilots who had problems and
didn't know about it till they took their props off and checked them
out.Just a word of warning.
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: RE: Re: Cruise Speed
I must agree on the Warp Drive prop. I have approx 180 hours on my
Corvair powered Piet, hand proping, with zero problems and very good
performance. The prop is a 70 inch with HP hub and blades. I also like
being able to adjust the prop for the kind of performance you need.
Have a great day, JIM
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| Subject: | Need some answers |
Pieters,
Would appreciate the answers to the following questions:
1 How many lbs can an empty, sealed gallon milk jug support in fresh water?
2 In salt water?
3 In bayou water?
All based on 231 cu in vessel
Thanks
Someone still in Louisiana
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| Subject: | Re: Need some answers |
Corky,
A cubic foot of water is about 64#, and 1728 cubic inches. Therefore 231/1728
0.134 cubic feet. OR about 8.5#/gallon for water. So..........amount of weight
supported by plastic gallon jug is 8.5# minus the weight of jug. OR about
8#'s per jug. Salt water weights more per gallon than fresh water but not much,
and it depends on the salinity of the water, same for bayou water, it depends
on the saltyness. But, except for the Great Salt Lake, the salt content
is not over 2%. This can get more accurate, how precise do you need this? You
planning on making a float plane out of the Piete?
Gordon Bowen
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 6:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Need some answers
Pieters,
Would appreciate the answers to the following questions:
1 How many lbs can an empty, sealed gallon milk jug support in fresh water?
2 In salt water?
3 In bayou water?
All based on 231 cu in vessel
Thanks
Someone still in Louisiana
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| Subject: | long overwater flight to Belize ? |
Oh my God Corky--- please tell us that you are not planning on flying to
Belize to see that bonehead
Ray Axillou.......aka, The Fisherman......
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Need some answers |
OR, you should be able to do it the Thomas Edison way. He didn't like figuring,
but did it the common sense way.
1 fill the jug with water and weigh it. That's how much it will support for neutral
bouancy.
2 fill it with salt water and weigh it.. ditto
3 fill it with bayou water ( without getting croc bit) ditto
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Need some answers
Pieters,
Would appreciate the answers to the following questions:
1 How many lbs can an empty, sealed gallon milk jug support in fresh water?
2 In salt water?
3 In bayou water?
All based on 231 cu in vessel
Thanks
Someone still in Louisiana
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| Subject: | Re: Cruise Speed |
Check your prop carefully as I had a ground adjustable let go late down
wind, my test pilot made it back to terafirma in one piece, wish the
same could said for my plane. Attached is a pic of the hub.
I get a cruise of 70mph at 2200rpm and a climb of 500 fpm at 60 mph out
with an 0-235 100hp, fitted with a Sensenich 72 dia 50 pitch metal
certified. Note the climb is done with a 95kg (210 lbs) pilot and a 75kg
(165lbs) Pax with 75lt (16.5gal) fuel out of a field based at 5340 ASL.
The density altitude sits anywhere from around 7000ft.
Norman Stapelberg
ZS-VJA Pietenpol Aircamper
South Africa
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
Wolk
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cruise Speed
I was getting 76 mph with a Sensenich Wood prop that limited rpm to
2200 flat out with an A-65. Now I still get 76 mph with a two blade warp
drive pitched to throttle back to 2250 rpm and better fuel economy. My
ASI reads high. These numbers are based on many tests using a GPS in 4
directions.
Shawn Wolk
C-FRAZ Pietenpol Aircamper
C-GZOT Skyhopper 2
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| Subject: | Re: long overwater flight to Belize ? |
If this trip is the case, Corky will need to stash about 100 gallon milk jugs in
the Piete to insure the Coast Guard will find the his body floating in the Gulf,
and still have the plane float up on some sandy sunny beach. Littering the
beach has some heavy fines.
Gordon Bowen
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael D Cuy
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 7:43 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: long overwater flight to Belize ?
Oh my God Corky--- please tell us that you are not planning on flying to Belize
to see that bonehead
Ray Axillou.......aka, The Fisherman......
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: long overwater flight to Belize ? |
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Some of you Pieters sure can let your imaginations run wild. Honestly, how
many of you have seen the width of the Mississippi at Vicksburg, Natchez and
Baton Rouge? Plus the swamps for many miles on either bank. Snakes, alligators,
crawfish, black bears, coons, more snakes and gators, skeeters, red bugs,
lice, ticks, deer fly. Now tell me honestly,,wouldn't you rather be floating?
Someone in the Louisiana Paradise
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead dates |
July 22, 23 & 24
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Rambo
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead dates
I am sure it has been on here and I have missed it. What are the dates of this
year's Brodhead Piet fly-in?
Gene.
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| Subject: | Re: Cruise Speed |
Everyone please be careful when using some of these ground-adjustable props.
I lost a good friend in an ultralight accident when his ground adjustable
prop came off the back end of his Rans. When the prop departed, it impacted
the tail boom which caused the boom to fail. He and his passenger were both
killed upon impact. There was nothing they could have done.
It turns out that one of the prop bolts had broken, which lead to the rapid
failure of the remaining bolts. The bolts provided by the prop manufacturer
were NOT AN-grade. Yes, my friend should have known better, but so should a
manufacturer. The theory is that after loosening and re-tightening the bolts
several times to adjust the prop, they evenutally became elongated and
weakened.
So, please be careful with ground-adjustable props. Be careful with all
props for that matter.
-Wayne
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| Subject: | Re: long overwater flight to Belize ? |
Corky, why not install amphibious floats? I bet they would look cool and be a
great hit at the flyins.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
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----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: long overwater flight to Belize ?
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Some of you Pieters sure can let your imaginations run wild. Honestly, how many
of you have seen the width of the Mississippi at Vicksburg, Natchez and Baton
Rouge? Plus the swamps for many miles on either bank. Snakes, alligators, crawfish,
black bears, coons, more snakes and gators, skeeters, red bugs, lice,
ticks, deer fly. Now tell me honestly,,wouldn't you rather be floating?
Someone in the Louisiana Paradise
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| Subject: | Re: long overwater flight to Belize ? |
Sounds to me you SHOULD put floats on the thing. You'd have
a lot more fun than filling it up with milk jugs!
Or you could seal the whole thing with sloshing sealer and fill
it with helium. A side benefit would be VERY good short field
performance.
Clif, in da Grate Nort Land of oceans, lakes and rivers.
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Some of you Pieters sure can let your imaginations run wild. Honestly, how many
of you have seen the width of the Mississippi at Vicksburg, Natchez and Baton
Rouge? Plus the swamps for many miles on either bank. Snakes, alligators, crawfish,
black bears, coons, more snakes and gators, skeeters, red bugs, lice,
ticks, deer fly. Now tell me honestly,,wouldn't you rather be floating?
Someone in the Louisiana Paradise
Do not archive
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