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1. 07:01 AM - Re: Landing gear hinge lugs (Rick Holland)
2. 09:15 AM - Re: see.....anyone can fly ! (bike.mike)
3. 09:44 AM - Re: see.....anyone can fly ! (John Ford)
4. 11:21 AM - info on N28LT (Jeff Boatright)
5. 11:44 AM - Re: info on N28LT (Michael D Cuy)
6. 12:17 PM - Re: info on N28LT (Jeff Boatright)
7. 12:17 PM - Re: info on N28LT (TRichmo9@aol.com)
8. 01:15 PM - Off topic flying (walt evans)
9. 02:15 PM - Re: Off topic flying (Michael D Cuy)
10. 02:17 PM - Re: see.....anyone can fly ! (Michael D Cuy)
11. 02:30 PM - Re: see.....anyone can fly ! (TomTravis@aol.com)
12. 03:42 PM - Re: Off topic flying (DJ Vegh)
13. 04:21 PM - Re: info on N28LT (PIETLARS29@wmconnect.com)
14. 04:50 PM - Re: info on N28LT (Jeff Boatright)
15. 05:06 PM - Re: Off topic flying (walt evans)
16. 07:58 PM - Molud Treatment (Mike Green)
17. 09:00 PM - Re: see.....anyone can fly ! (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: Landing gear hinge lugs |
Sorry, never mind, I am a moron, I figured out what the 5/8" lugs are for
after staring at the plans for the 200th time. Its incredible how simple
Bernie made this landing gear design, I was trying to make it much more
complicated. Compared to the cub gear design of the GN-1 (which I also have
plans for) it looks so insubstantial but given its track record I know its
adequate. The GN-1 is just drastically over-built.
Rick H.
On 6/19/05, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey guys
>
> Drawing No. 3 (1934 plans) show two 5/8" hinge lugs and one 3/4" diameter
> hinge lug. I can see what the 3/4" lug is for, what do you do with the 5/8"
> diameter lugs?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Rick Holland
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Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Re: see.....anyone can fly ! |
Forgive me for jumping into this thread late.
The kid also shows a tendency to bad judgement and a lack of ethics. Are you sure
you want this guy around as an adult?
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From: TomTravis@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: see.....anyone can fly !
Well, the kid shows initiative and some ability. Maybe we should start a kitty
for him to take flying lessons when he gets out of the slam.
Tom Travis
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| Subject: | Re: see.....anyone can fly ! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
I'm with Tom on this. I believe it's better to pull people under our
collective wing and put them on the right track, rather than letting
them become marginalized to the point where they end up robbing
convenience stores and the like. Save them while we can, if you see my
point. Heck, I've got plenty of bad judgement too, which probably makes
it appear that I have a lack of ethics as well... :)
John (who is getting his home security system installed today)
John Ford
john@indstate.edu
812-237-8542
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not any simpler."
-- Albert Einstein
>>> bike.mike@charter.net Monday, June 20, 2005 11:19:10 AM >>>
Forgive me for jumping into this thread late.
The kid also shows a tendency to bad judgement and a lack of ethics.
Are you sure you want this guy around as an adult?
----- Original Message -----
From: TomTravis@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: see.....anyone can fly !
Well, the kid shows initiative and some ability. Maybe we should
start a kitty for him to take flying lessons when he gets out of the
slam.
Tom Travis
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
Dear Pietenpolers,
Bobby Younkin has a Pietenpol for sale in TAP that I'm interested in.
It is N28LT. It won a best workmanship award at Oshkosh in 1999 and
at the time was owned by James Bruce of Sanford, FL. I believe it was
originally built by Tomasello Lawrence in 1985 or '87.
Does anyone know anything about this plane? Bobby is asking 16k,
which seems on the high side for a Piet, but it does have an 0-200
and steel tube fuselage.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jeff
jboatri@emory.edu
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Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD
Assistant Professor, Emory Eye Center, Atlanta, GA, USA
Senior Editor, Molecular Vision, http://www.molvis.org/molvis
mailto:jboatri@emory.edu
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| Subject: | Re: info on N28LT |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
That's a very fair price for that Piet---nice, and with an 0-200.
I've seen that one in person.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: info on N28LT |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
Mike,
Thanks so much for your input. Greatly appreciated.
Jeff
At 2:43 PM -0400 6/20/05, Michael D Cuy wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
><Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
>That's a very fair price for that Piet---nice, and with an 0-200.
>
>I've seen that one in person.
>
>Mike C.
>
>
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Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD
Assistant Professor, Emory Eye Center, Atlanta, GA, USA
Senior Editor, Molecular Vision, http://www.molvis.org/molvis
mailto:jboatri@emory.edu
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| Subject: | Re: info on N28LT |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TRichmo9@aol.com
hey guys im back,i fried my pc and im on an old 75 hertz packard bell with
windows 3.1, its like flying a model a piet.
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| Subject: | Off topic flying |
My kids got together and got me a half hour in this Stearman for fathers day.
Ain't life Grand!
walt evans
NX140DL
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| Subject: | Re: Off topic flying |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Walt-- that is too cool. What wonderful kids you have. Did ya get any
stick time ?
Good photo, too. Excellent that you got to go.
Mike
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: see.....anyone can fly ! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
I've flown with pilots that didn't do 1/2 as good as this kid did with no
lessons. Sounds like he's
a born pilot and would be good if you ever needed an airplane stolen.
Mike C.
do not archive
KIDDING !
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| Subject: | Re: see.....anyone can fly ! |
In a message dated 6/20/2005 4:18:03 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes:
Sounds like he's
a born pilot and would be good if you ever needed an airplane stolen.
I agree. If you eliminated all pilots with bad judgement and questionable
ethics there would be a shortage.
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| Subject: | Re: Off topic flying |
ohhhh now that looks like a bucket full of fun!
DJ V.
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Cc: walter evans
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 1:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Off topic flying
My kids got together and got me a half hour in this Stearman for fathers day.
Ain't life Grand!
walt evans
NX140DL
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| Subject: | Re: info on N28LT |
Hi'
Randy Bruce sold that bird a couple of years ago for somewhat more than the
16K. He had it for some time and did quite a bit of work on it. In particular
the paint job. Randy is a sign painter specializing in boat work. I have
flown in it with Randy and to my knowledge it is an honest airplane with no
known shortcomings.
Lou Larsen, (starting to assemble the bird for a weigh -in )
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| Subject: | Re: info on N28LT |
Lou,
Thanks so much for the input. Randy sounds like at interesting guy.
Jeff
>Hi'
>
>Randy Bruce sold that bird a couple of years ago for somewhat more
>than the 16K. He had it for some time and did quite a bit of work
>on it. In particular the paint job. Randy is a sign painter
>specializing in boat work. I have flown in it with Randy and to my
>knowledge it is an honest airplane with no known shortcomings.
>
>Lou Larsen, (starting to assemble the bird for a weigh -in )
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| Subject: | Re: Off topic flying |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Mike,
Yeah, that was the surprise. He had recently gotten the plane in pieces and
he and his guys covered and painted and put together. I told him on the
tarmac "I know this is your baby, and I just want to go for a ride" He said
"Naw, get in the back"
First, he ran partial throttle while I held the stick back and I used rudder
to control it all the way down the 2500' grass strip. Then turned and did
it all the way back. And turned....
"hold the stick back, give throttle to a slow count of five, release
preassure and climb out at 75. After the trees are made pull the throttle
back from 2100 to 1900 and climb out at 80 up to 2000' "
We did slow flight, climbing turns, and a power off stall, Then set up
for a landing at a nearby 2000" grass strip.
Lots to think about,,,Learned that with a plane like that with no forward
visibility, the turn from downwind to base becomes a slow sweep to the
touchdown point. No base to final at all. This way you can look out of
the side of the plane till the end of the field comes up. when you go over
the numbers, you can see none of the runway,,,just the edges of the grass,
or lights flying past on the sides.
Took off again and headed back for home.
We landed at the home field, the only thing he helped me with was the
flair, big plane like that it's hard to judge.
When we got out he said the only thing he did was work the stick for the
flair, the rest was me.
felt good.
Ain"t life grand!!!
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Off topic flying
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
> Walt-- that is too cool. What wonderful kids you have. Did ya get any
> stick time ?
>
> Good photo, too. Excellent that you got to go.
>
> Mike
>
> do not archive
>
>
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Has anyone had any dealings with mould issues on their woodwork?
My Piet progress has been at a standstill for nearly a year due to work commitments
and lack of time but I've been able to get a move on in the last month and
have knocked over a bit of the metalwork. Whilst messing around with the location
of the rudder pedals, I noticed some mould forming on the ply (none of the
fuse has been varnished yet). I've read a few articles on dry rot and obviously
I'll have to get in and do something right away.
I'm going down to the hardware store to get a pre paint mould treatment and try
it on a small area. I was just wondering if anyone out there has experienced
the same thing and if so, what was the solution?
Mike Green
In "Wet & Damp" Romsey
Victoria
AUSTRALIA
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| Subject: | Re: see.....anyone can fly ! |
We don't know this kid, his background, who he hangs with, future plans ( or lack
thereof).
Are there any of you out there that haven't taken part in Halloween pranks that
with a
slightly different set of parameters could have had some significant results?
It's not ones level of bad judgement that's important but ones battle to lessen
personal
bad judgement, the willingness to look back and say " Damn! That was stupid.
Personally I don't make mistreaks. :-)
Clif
From: TomTravis@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: see.....anyone can fly !
In a message dated 6/20/2005 4:18:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov
writes:
Sounds like he's
a born pilot and would be good if you ever needed an airplane stolen.
I agree. If you eliminated all pilots with bad judgement and questionable ethics
there would be a shortage.
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