---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/21/05: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:54 AM - Re: see.....anyone can fly ! (TomTravis@aol.com) 2. 05:54 AM - Re: see.....anyone can fly ! (Ron Franck) 3. 06:16 AM - (Michael D Cuy) 4. 06:21 AM - Re: see.....anyone can fly ! (Doyle Combs) 5. 06:39 AM - Re: see.....anyone can fly ! (Mark) 6. 06:55 AM - Re: see.....anyone can fly ! (TomTravis@aol.com) 7. 06:58 AM - Re: see.....anyone can fly ! (Ken) 8. 06:59 AM - Re: (bike.mike) 9. 02:46 PM - Re: see.....anyone can fly ! (Carl Vought) 10. 03:04 PM - Mold (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)) 11. 04:21 PM - Re:Mould Treatment (Mike Green) 12. 07:19 PM - Re: Re:Mould Treatment (Dick Navratil) 13. 07:34 PM - Re: Mold (Dave Esslinger) 14. 08:07 PM - Re:Mould (Mike Green) 15. 11:43 PM - Re: Mold (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:01 AM PST US From: TomTravis@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: see.....anyone can fly ! We need to appoint a committee to study this kid. I nominate Mike and Corky for starters. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:01 AM PST US From: Ron Franck Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE: see.....anyone can fly ! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ron Franck >In a message dated 6/20/2005 4:18:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, >Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes: >Sounds like he's >a born pilot and would be good if you ever needed an airplane stolen. >I agree. If you eliminated all pilots with bad judgement and questionable >ethics there would be a shortage. Substitute the word "pilots" with the word "politicians"...................... ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:35 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Corky can be the wise grandfatherly like figure and I can set him up with a ground school course and studies so he'll be ready for formal training. Lets see, private rating at 16, airline pilot by 23...... Mike C. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:09 AM PST US s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=HXuZMS9xarregSfF8HGqBEg4usTJE9Q2uOvgzQmDdNrnFEoH9oHmgc4if2ZwN351; From: "Doyle Combs" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: see.....anyone can fly ! Tom may be right. It might not hurt to find a Piet pilot near him and offer him a ride. It might be good to show him the right way to get an airplane ride. It could be a very positive factor in his misguided life. ----- Original Message ----- From: TomTravis@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:52 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: see.....anyone can fly ! We need to appoint a committee to study this kid. I nominate Mike and Corky for starters. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:03 AM PST US From: Mark Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: see.....anyone can fly ! SpamAssassin (score=-2.542, required 3, autolearn=not spam, AWL 0.05, BAYES_00 -2.60, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB 0.01) --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Doyle Combs wrote: > Tom may be right. It might not hurt to find a Piet pilot near him and > offer him a ride. It might be good to show him the right way to get an > airplane ride. It could be a very positive factor in his misguided life. If anything is done Id also recommend that extra time be taken to take him to the local library nearest him, show him all the books that are available for free for him to learn from about aviation, and provide a single book for him to get to work on the ground portion. To quote a wise old man "Sometimes its better to be lucky than good." He used up the luck. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:32 AM PST US From: TomTravis@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: see.....anyone can fly ! In a message dated 6/21/2005 8:40:26 A.M. Central Standard Time, aerialphotos@dp.net writes: To quote a wise old man "Sometimes its better to be lucky than good." He used up the luck. That's so true! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:52 AM PST US From: Ken Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: see.....anyone can fly ! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken With his success at flying he may have already found those books at the library. Mark wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark > > Doyle Combs wrote: > >> Tom may be right. It might not hurt to find a Piet pilot near him and >> offer him a ride. It might be good to show him the right way to get >> an airplane ride. It could be a very positive factor in his misguided >> life. > > > If anything is done Id also recommend that extra time be taken to take > him to the local library nearest him, show him all the books that are > available for free for him to learn from about aviation, and provide a > single book for him to get to work on the ground portion. To quote a > wise old man "Sometimes its better to be lucky than good." He used up > the luck. > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:19 AM PST US d="scan'208"; a="1123350142:sNHT22752430" From: "bike.mike" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bike.mike" > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > Corky can be the wise grandfatherly like figure and I can set him up with a > ground school > course and studies so he'll be ready for formal training. Lets see, > private rating at 16, airline > pilot by 23...... > ..... and embezzling the pilot pension fund at 27. I'm sorry, but I've been burned by two bad experiences with kids who wanted to fly so badly they were willing to steal airplanes. They were both given the "grandfatherly" treatment and helped enormously by flying folks with huge hearts. Now one is dead and the other is still in prison. Both losses were related to drug smuggling. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:54 PM PST US From: "Carl Vought" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: see.....anyone can fly ! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" Local news broadcasts indicate that's how he learned as much as he did....He went to the library...Carl Vought, Huntsville, Alabama...Not far from Ft. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: see.....anyone can fly ! > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken > > With his success at flying he may have already found those books at the > library. > > Mark wrote: > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark > > > > Doyle Combs wrote: > > > >> Tom may be right. It might not hurt to find a Piet pilot near him and > >> offer him a ride. It might be good to show him the right way to get > >> an airplane ride. It could be a very positive factor in his misguided > >> life. > > > > > > > > If anything is done Id also recommend that extra time be taken to take > > him to the local library nearest him, show him all the books that are > > available for free for him to learn from about aviation, and provide a > > single book for him to get to work on the ground portion. To quote a > > wise old man "Sometimes its better to be lucky than good." He used up > > the luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:41 PM PST US ETAsAhQT4Obip+Gp4br9MZcHz6hLpQ4BPgIUBdt7umrtqvFCUu0Kr0KA2iVNME8= From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mold --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) I am always concerned about any thing that might have an affect on wood since it is organic. We have a local guy who is quite the expert on aircraft wood who told me not to use wood preventives or anything other than varnish. He says all of these other things can cause varnish not to adhere. Are you sure it's mold? I've seen some unprotected wood that looks pretty dark, buy wasn't moldy. Leon S. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:21:03 PM PST US From: "Mike Green" Subject: Re:Pietenpol-List:Mould Treatment I went out and bought some pre paint mould treatment yesterday and will try it out on the ply today. It realy peaves me c'os a mate who built a Corby Starlet over a 7 year period with the fuselage unvarnished for 2 of those years had no problems at all. I'll let you know how it goes. Mike Green Romsey Victoria. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:19:40 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Re:Pietenpol-List:Mould Treatment Mike Mold is usually associated with humid conditions and a lack of air circulation. You might first try a dehumidifier in the area where the parts are stored and get those parts varnished. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Green To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:15 PM Subject: Re:Pietenpol-List:Mould Treatment I went out and bought some pre paint mould treatment yesterday and will try it out on the ply today. It realy peaves me c'os a mate who built a Corby Starlet over a 7 year period with the fuselage unvarnished for 2 of those years had no problems at all. I'll let you know how it goes. Mike Green Romsey Victoria. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:32 PM PST US From: "Dave Esslinger" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Mold --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dave Esslinger" What kind of varnish are, did, you guys use on your Piets. I've had some uncovered wood for quite a while and probably ought to protect it. I assume you coat all of the wood. Is one coat sufficient? Any tips or tricks will be appreciated. Thanks, Dave --- ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:56 PM PST US From: "Mike Green" Subject: Re:Pietenpol-List:Mould The workshop was'nt opened much in the time the project sat still, so I think your right Dick. Seeing its winter down here, I'm looking at ways to reduce the risks of this happening again. One of my other worries was that if I used the mould treatment would it effect the glue properties. I emailed West Systems and got word back this morning that there will be no degredation of the glue. Whew!! Thanks for the input guys. Mike Green Romsey Victoria Australia. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:43:49 PM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mold --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson The most moisture resistant of all is shellac. Use this first then your choice of varnish or epoxy. Since a number of us have used Helmsman spar varnish with good results that is my choice. If you decide to use shellac make sure it's FRESH! Clif > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dave Esslinger" > > > What kind of varnish are, did, you guys use on your Piets. I've had some > uncovered wood for quite a while and probably ought to protect it. I > assume > you coat all of the wood. Is one coat sufficient? Any tips or tricks will > be > appreciated. > Thanks, Dave >