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1. 06:56 AM - Piet over Kansas (barnstmr@aol.com)
2. 08:40 AM - antenna question (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 08:53 AM - Brodhead Info Requested (Bruce __)
4. 09:05 AM - Re: antenna question (Phillips, Jack)
5. 09:15 AM - Re: Pietenpol List: A-65 starting snafu (Edwin Johnson)
6. 09:16 AM - Re: Brodhead Info Requested (Christian Bobka)
7. 09:22 AM - Re: antenna question (Christian Bobka)
8. 09:37 AM - Re: Brodhead Info Requested (Jeff Boatright)
9. 09:37 AM - Brodhead Questions (Michael D Cuy)
10. 10:24 AM - Re: antenna question (Phillips, Jack)
11. 12:43 PM - Re: antenna question (Mike McCarty)
12. 12:56 PM - Re: antenna question (Christian Bobka)
13. 01:21 PM - Re: antenna question (Christian Bobka)
14. 01:27 PM - Re: antenna question (Phillips, Jack)
15. 03:08 PM - B-head (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
16. 07:10 PM - Re: Piet over Kansas (Michael Conkling)
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| Subject: | Piet over Kansas |
Hey Gang,
I was briefly in Wichita KS with my boss on business trip this week. We had a
couple of hours to kill so we went over to the "Exploration Place" museum. Chuck,
sorry I didn't look you up this time. We were only there briefly and our
2-hour down time was unexpected. The museum is mostly for kids with hands-on
science exhibits... very nice and with a lot of interesting aviation exhibits
donated by Boeing, Cessna, and others.
While strolling thru, I noticed a computer screen with a flight simulator with
a visible instrument panel appeared to be open cockpit. I walked over and pushed
a button. Low and behold it was a Pietenpol. Now maybe this has been discussed
on here before. And if so, I apologize.
Anyway.... I had a ball and could have stayed there for hours flying that Piet.
It was pretty realistic, although no red-line on airspeed which enabled me to
accelerate to 120 knots and pull the nose up high for a loop. Also accomplished
a very sloppy roll (no rudder available). Instead of a joystick, there was
a control wheel.
Anyway...if you ever are there, its a fun thing to do. Especially for all of us
kids.
Terry L. Bowden
ph 254-715-4773
fax 254-853-3805
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| Subject: | antenna question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Okay, in a nutshell I'm wondering if two antennas can share the same ground
plane. Wait! I know they can't if they're both on the same side of it, but
imagine this. Wood frame/fabric covering (Pietenpol) or composite
construction (KR), essentially "transparent" to RF signals, with an 18"
square aluminum sheet ground plane mounted behind the pilot's seat, with the
VHF COM antenna mounted to the top of the sheet inside the tailcone. Then,
the ELT whip mounted to the underside of the same aluminum sheet, sticking
out the bottom of the airplane. I realize that it isn't practical to do
that on a KR due to ground clearance, but I'm talking about "in theory".
Can they share the ground plane if they're on opposite sides of it.
Mounting two antennas too close to one another isn't good for either one,
but if they can't "see" each other through the ground plane?
Thanks...
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Brodhead Info Requested |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bruce __" <bruce___@hotmail.com>
Hi Guys,
Im planning on attending Brodhead this year for the first time. Im making
very slow progress but I thought that I would bring my rudder and let you
experienced guys tell me if my workmanship is up to snuff.
Lodging What do most do, camp on site or local hotel? What are the
facilities like at the airport?
Any tips for the for the first-time Brodhead visitor would be greatly
appreciated, and feel free to email me off-list if you don't think this
applies to the group.
Thanks!
Bruce
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| Subject: | antenna question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <jphillip@alarismed.com>
They can share the same ground plane. On a spam can, the ground plane
is the exterior of the airplane. All antennas share that groundplane.
Besides, the ELT and the Comm radio are not likely to be transmitting
simultaneously.
18" square may not be big enough to give optimum results. The
groundplane ideally should extend in all directions at least the length
of the antenna.
What I did on mine is make a groundplane just as you describe for the
ELT. For the comm radio, I used a halfwave dipole antenna in the
leading edge of the right wing - no groundplane required. Works great.
Jack Phillips, PE
Sr. Manager, Disposables Product Development
Clinical Technologies and Services
Cardinal Health
Creedmoor, NC
(919) 528-5212
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar
Zuniga
Subject: Pietenpol-List: antenna question
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
Okay, in a nutshell I'm wondering if two antennas can share the same
ground
plane. Wait! I know they can't if they're both on the same side of it,
but
imagine this. Wood frame/fabric covering (Pietenpol) or composite
construction (KR), essentially "transparent" to RF signals, with an 18"
square aluminum sheet ground plane mounted behind the pilot's seat, with
the
VHF COM antenna mounted to the top of the sheet inside the tailcone.
Then,
the ELT whip mounted to the underside of the same aluminum sheet,
sticking
out the bottom of the airplane. I realize that it isn't practical to do
that on a KR due to ground clearance, but I'm talking about "in theory".
Can they share the ground plane if they're on opposite sides of it.
Mounting two antennas too close to one another isn't good for either
one,
but if they can't "see" each other through the ground plane?
Thanks...
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol List: A-65 starting snafu |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Edwin Johnson <elj@shreve.net>
> From: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
>
> Tie it down. Have a good man in the cockpit. Have him open the
> throttle fully with the magnetos off. Pull the prop through slowly
> backwards. This will inhale air through the exhausts and exhale it out
> the carb so as to lean out the mixture. Don't worry about the mags
Good advice Chris.
I had a Luscombe 8A for 17 years and never had problem starting it in the
summer. Mine had no primer. (Did they really build _65s_ with primers?
haahaa)
My technique was to barely crack the throttle and turn it over several
times as if starting with mags off. Then make mags hot and it started
easily except in cold weather. But every engine has its own set of
'habits'.
If you rock the prop back and forth you should hear a small 'slurping'
sound if the gas has actually been drawn in. Otherwise no gas, and will
not start. Remember, I had no primer.
But the _most_ important thing I found in my engine, was to give a slight
upswing before the downswing for the start. This worked wonders and proved
to be equally effective on Corky's plane. That motion is done rather
quickly, with a slight push up or clockwise (opposite direction from
starting) before the downswing of the prop to start the engine. I found my
engine at times wouldn't start without doing this and it became
instinctive over the years with my engine and any other I hand propped.
Hope it might work for you.
...Edwin
"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your
eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, there you
long to return."-- da Vinci ... www.shreve.net/~elj
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead Info Requested |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
Camping is lots of fun. It is darker along the pine trees on the west edge
of the field so that is where I go. There are lots of lights on the east
side and lots of slamming doors all night long too.
They have showers available and food as well. Plan to shower at off times
like the middle of the day or the middle of the night. The food is cheaper
and better than at oshkosh.
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce __" <bruce___@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Info Requested
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bruce __" <bruce___@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I'm planning on attending Brodhead this year for the first time. I'm
making
> very slow progress but I thought that I would bring my rudder and let you
> experienced guys tell me if my workmanship is up to snuff.
>
> Lodging - What do most do, camp on site or local hotel? What are the
> facilities like at the airport?
>
> Any tips for the for the first-time Brodhead visitor would be greatly
> appreciated, and feel free to email me off-list if you don't think this
> applies to the group.
>
> Thanks!
> Bruce
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: antenna question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
Jack,
I am a big proponent of the dipole in the wood aircraft. I was curious if
the horizontal orientation of the dipole in the wing LE detracts much from
its performanc as most comm signals are vertically polarized?
Did you make your own? I know Wier from RST has instructions (I have them)
on how to make your own.
I imagine that the TSO for the ELT forbids using anything but the antenna
supllied with the ELT. Part 91 mandates that the ELT installation, even on
a homebuilt, complies with the TSO.
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillips, Jack" <jphillip@alarismed.com>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: antenna question
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack"
<jphillip@alarismed.com>
>
> They can share the same ground plane. On a spam can, the ground plane
> is the exterior of the airplane. All antennas share that groundplane.
> Besides, the ELT and the Comm radio are not likely to be transmitting
> simultaneously.
>
> 18" square may not be big enough to give optimum results. The
> groundplane ideally should extend in all directions at least the length
> of the antenna.
>
> What I did on mine is make a groundplane just as you describe for the
> ELT. For the comm radio, I used a halfwave dipole antenna in the
> leading edge of the right wing - no groundplane required. Works great.
>
> Jack Phillips, PE
> Sr. Manager, Disposables Product Development
> Clinical Technologies and Services
> Cardinal Health
> Creedmoor, NC
> (919) 528-5212
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar
> Zuniga
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:40 AM
> To: krnet@mylist.net; pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: antenna question
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Okay, in a nutshell I'm wondering if two antennas can share the same
> ground
> plane. Wait! I know they can't if they're both on the same side of it,
> but
> imagine this. Wood frame/fabric covering (Pietenpol) or composite
> construction (KR), essentially "transparent" to RF signals, with an 18"
> square aluminum sheet ground plane mounted behind the pilot's seat, with
> the
> VHF COM antenna mounted to the top of the sheet inside the tailcone.
> Then,
> the ELT whip mounted to the underside of the same aluminum sheet,
> sticking
> out the bottom of the airplane. I realize that it isn't practical to do
>
> that on a KR due to ground clearance, but I'm talking about "in theory".
>
> Can they share the ground plane if they're on opposite sides of it.
>
> Mounting two antennas too close to one another isn't good for either
> one,
> but if they can't "see" each other through the ground plane?
>
> Thanks...
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead Info Requested |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
Hey, why split hairs? EVERYTHING at B'head is better and cheaper than OSH!! :)
At 11:18 AM -0500 6/24/05, Christian Bobka wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
>
>Camping is lots of fun. It is darker along the pine trees on the west edge
>of the field so that is where I go. There are lots of lights on the east
>side and lots of slamming doors all night long too.
>
>They have showers available and food as well. Plan to shower at off times
>like the middle of the day or the middle of the night. The food is cheaper
>and better than at oshkosh.
>
>Chris
>
>
>Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bruce __" <bruce___@hotmail.com>
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 10:53 AM
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Info Requested
>
>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bruce __" <bruce___@hotmail.com>
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I'm planning on attending Brodhead this year for the first time. I'm
>making
>> very slow progress but I thought that I would bring my rudder and let you
>> experienced guys tell me if my workmanship is up to snuff.
>>
>> Lodging - What do most do, camp on site or local hotel? What are the
>> facilities like at the airport?
>>
>> Any tips for the for the first-time Brodhead visitor would be greatly
>> appreciated, and feel free to email me off-list if you don't think this
>> applies to the group.
>>
>> Thanks!
> > Bruce
>>
> >
--
Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD
Assistant Professor, Emory Eye Center, Atlanta, GA, USA
Senior Editor, Molecular Vision, http://www.molvis.org/molvis
mailto:jboatri@emory.edu
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| Subject: | Brodhead Questions |
>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Bruce-- There is everything from pup tents to campers with generators and
dishes at Brodhead. For the nearest
motel, Monroe is about 11 miles to the west, southwest and they have some
nice places, and a few good restaurants.
There is not much in Brodhead itself. A quiet town with no motel that I'm
aware of.
You might want to bring camera, notepad, measuring tape, video camera,
sunscreen, and two sets of shoes in case
one set gets soaked.
Mike C.
do not archive
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| Subject: | antenna question |
Hi Chris,
I bought my dipole on ebay for $50. It is the model that Aircraft
Spruce sells from Advanced Aircraft Electronics for $125. Total length
is about 8' long and it is about 2" wide. I'm sure its horizontal
polarization detracts slightly from its performance, but not enough to
notice. I've had a number of people tell me my transmissions are very
clear, and I have no problem pciking up distant stations. I haven't
tried yet to see how far I can transmit.
A dipole is the easiest of all antennas to make. Just calculate what
one half of the wavelength would be for the middle of the band you want
to transmit in - in this case, about 125 MHz. Wavelength Speed of
light / frequency, or 300,000,000/125,000,000, so the length needs to be
2.4 meters or 94-1/2". Make each leg half of that, solder each to one
pole of a coaxial connector and voila - one halfwave dipole antenna. It
is best to tune it to the transmitter and coax system you are using with
an SWR meter (any ham operator can help you with this). Just trim the
ends of the dipole to get the SWR (Standing Wave Ratio) as close to 1:1
as possible.
I used a commercial transponder antenna, with a circular aluminum
groundplane about 10" in diameter, mounted in the left wing. The ELT is
behind the rear seat. No antennas are visible on the aircraft exterior,
to maintain that pristine "antique" look.
Jack
-----Original Message-----
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
<sbobka@charter.net>
Jack,
I am a big proponent of the dipole in the wood aircraft. I was curious
if
the horizontal orientation of the dipole in the wing LE detracts much
from
its performanc as most comm signals are vertically polarized?
Did you make your own? I know Wier from RST has instructions (I have
them)
on how to make your own.
I imagine that the TSO for the ELT forbids using anything but the
antenna
supllied with the ELT. Part 91 mandates that the ELT installation, even
on
a homebuilt, complies with the TSO.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: antenna question |
RE: Pietenpol-List: antenna question
An 8 ft dipole for 125 MHz just doesn't sound right. The entire antenna should
be half wave.
The formula I've always used is 468/MHzlength in feet. This gives about .48 wavelength
to compensate for capacitance off the ends. I come up with 44.93 inches for the
entire
length of the antenna. Your description makes it about twice the length it should
be...
-Mac
>A dipole is the easiest of all antennas to make. Just calculate what one half
of the wavelength would be for the middle of the band you want to transmit in
- in this case, >about 125 MHz. Wavelength Speed of light / frequency, or 300,000,000/125,000,000,
so the length needs to be 2.4 meters or 94-1/2". Make
each leg half of that, >solder each to one pole of a coaxial connector and voila
- one halfwave dipole antenna. It is best to tune it to the transmitter and
coax system you are using with an >SWR meter (any ham operator can help you
with this). Just trim the ends of the dipole to get the SWR (Standing Wave Ratio)
as close to 1:1 as possible.
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| Subject: | Re: antenna question |
RE: Pietenpol-List: antenna questionyou can do 2, 4, 8, 16....progressive multiples
of the half wave length, I believe, for the length of the whip or the length
of one of the poles in a dipole. Or you can use fractions of the wavelengths
with the above numbers in the denominator such as 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16.....
That is why you can get by with the 1/8 length of the full wave on a handheld.
If I remember right, you can't do an even one wavelength. I forget why.
The commercial whips that you put on a metal ship are 1/4 wave in length. So would
be the antenna that comes with an ELT.
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike McCarty
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: antenna question
An 8 ft dipole for 125 MHz just doesn't sound right. The entire antenna should
be half wave.
The formula I've always used is 468/MHzlength in feet. This gives about .48
wavelength
to compensate for capacitance off the ends. I come up with 44.93 inches for
the entire
length of the antenna. Your description makes it about twice the length it should
be...
-Mac
>A dipole is the easiest of all antennas to make. Just calculate what one half
of the wavelength would be for the middle of the band you want to transmit
in - in this case, >about 125 MHz. Wavelength Speed of light / frequency, or
300,000,000/125,000,000, so the length needs to be 2.4 meters or 94-1/2". Make
each leg half of that, >solder each to one pole of a coaxial connector and
voila - one halfwave dipole antenna. It is best to tune it to the transmitter
and coax system you are using with an >SWR meter (any ham operator can help you
with this). Just trim the ends of the dipole to get the SWR (Standing Wave
Ratio) as close to 1:1 as possible.
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| Subject: | Re: antenna question |
RE: Pietenpol-List: antenna questionI contracidted myself. You could not do 2
times the 1/2 wavelength as this would make it a full wavelength which I am pretty
sure you can't do. Where is that old ARRL handbook....
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: Christian Bobka
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: antenna question
you can do 2, 4, 8, 16....progressive multiples of the half wave length, I believe,
for the length of the whip or the length of one of the poles in a dipole.
Or you can use fractions of the wavelengths with the above numbers in the
denominator such as 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16..... That is why you can get by with
the 1/8 length of the full wave on a handheld.
If I remember right, you can't do an even one wavelength. I forget why.
The commercial whips that you put on a metal ship are 1/4 wave in length. So
would be the antenna that comes with an ELT.
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike McCarty
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: antenna question
An 8 ft dipole for 125 MHz just doesn't sound right. The entire antenna should
be half wave.
The formula I've always used is 468/MHzlength in feet. This gives about .48
wavelength
to compensate for capacitance off the ends. I come up with 44.93 inches for
the entire
length of the antenna. Your description makes it about twice the length it
should be...
-Mac
>A dipole is the easiest of all antennas to make. Just calculate what one
half of the wavelength would be for the middle of the band you want to transmit
in - in this case, >about 125 MHz. Wavelength Speed of light / frequency,
or 300,000,000/125,000,000, so the length needs to be 2.4 meters or 94-1/2".
Make each leg half of that, >solder each to one pole of a coaxial connector and
voila - one halfwave dipole antenna. It is best to tune it to the transmitter
and coax system you are using with an >SWR meter (any ham operator can help
you with this). Just trim the ends of the dipole to get the SWR (Standing Wave
Ratio) as close to 1:1 as possible.
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| Subject: | antenna question |
You're right Mac - I forgot to take half of that number. Half of
94-1/2" is 47-1/4", which is pretty close to the number you mention.
It's been too long since I covered the wing and covered up that antenna.
I just remember the sucker was long. Works well, though, and doesn't
detract from the appearance, or add unnecessary drag (like that's
important in a Pietenpol).
Jack Phillips
Just a Mechanical Engineer who used to be a Ham operator
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
McCarty
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: antenna question
An 8 ft dipole for 125 MHz just doesn't sound right. The entire antenna
should be half wave.
The formula I've always used is 468/MHzlength in feet. This gives
about .48 wavelength
to compensate for capacitance off the ends. I come up with 44.93 inches
for the entire
length of the antenna. Your description makes it about twice the length
it should be...
-Mac
>A dipole is the easiest of all antennas to make. Just calculate what
one half of the wavelength would be for the middle of the band you want
to transmit in - in this case, >about 125 MHz. Wavelength Speed of
light / frequency, or 300,000,000/125,000,000, so the length needs to be
2.4 meters or 94-1/2". Make each leg half of that, >solder each to one
pole of a coaxial connector and voila - one halfwave dipole antenna. It
is best to tune it to the transmitter and coax system you are using with
an >SWR meter (any ham operator can help you with this). Just trim the
ends of the dipole to get the SWR (Standing Wave Ratio) as close to 1:1
as possible.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
This is my 4th trip to Brodhead. The first two I stayed at motels in
Monrow and was glad I did. It was hotter there than the Kansas desert
inferno I came from. Last year I decided to camp and the temps were cool
and comfortable. Going to camp again this year. Always bring long
pants, jackets etc. After about 10 yrs at Oshkosh with just T-shirts and
shorts there was a year that the temps stayed in the 50's and lower
60's. I blew half of the budget buying warm cloths like I already had
at home. One wonders how more of these we can afford to attend. I just
filled the smaller fuel tank of my F-150 (ford). $43.00!!! 2 years ago I
could fill both tanks from empty for about $35.00. On the news last
night an oil expert said expect $3.00 next summer. I'm glad I unloaded
my Cessna when I did. Leon S. Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Piet over Kansas |
Terry,
Glad you enjoyed our Piet, even though we have the settings at "easy"! -- we
need a "happy" mix of what kids can do & still be challenged -- sometimes we
just hope their attention span is shorter than what it takes to break
something!! ;-)
Originally, we did have simulators with rudder pedals at EP -- however, the
kids did them in real fast (they weren't built for a 200# load on each pedal
!) -- we're looking to make a set of rudder bars out of 1" gas pipe to see
what happens! As for the "control yoke", remember that some of the Curtiss
Jennys were set-up that way!
If you make it back this way again, have the front desk call me in the Tech
Services shop.
Mike C. (a museum exhibit tech. by day!)
Pretty Prairie, KS
----- Original Message -----
From: barnstmr@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:55 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet over Kansas
Hey Gang,
I was briefly in Wichita KS with my boss on business trip this week. We
had a couple of hours to kill so we went over to the "Exploration Place"
museum. Chuck, sorry I didn't look you up this time. We were only there
briefly and our 2-hour down time was unexpected. The museum is mostly for
kids with hands-on science exhibits... very nice and with a lot of
interesting aviation exhibits donated by Boeing, Cessna, and others.
While strolling thru, I noticed a computer screen with a flight simulator
with a visible instrument panel appeared to be open cockpit. I walked over
and pushed a button. Low and behold it was a Pietenpol. Now maybe this has
been discussed on here before. And if so, I apologize.
Anyway.... I had a ball and could have stayed there for hours flying that
Piet. It was pretty realistic, although no red-line on airspeed which
enabled me to accelerate to 120 knots and pull the nose up high for a loop.
Also accomplished a very sloppy roll (no rudder available). Instead of a
joystick, there was a control wheel.
Anyway...if you ever are there, its a fun thing to do. Especially for all
of us kids.
Terry L. Bowden
ph 254-715-4773
fax 254-853-3805
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