---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/25/05: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:58 AM - Seminars at Brodhead? (Jim Markle) 2. 07:33 AM - Re: A-65 starting snafu (Rcaprd@aol.com) 3. 07:40 AM - Re: Piet over Kansas (Rcaprd@aol.com) 4. 07:41 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol List: A-65 starting snafu (Rcaprd@aol.com) 5. 07:44 AM - Re: Brodhead Info Requested (Rcaprd@aol.com) 6. 07:46 AM - Re: Seminars at Brodhead? (Rcaprd@aol.com) 7. 08:01 AM - Re: overcast over Brodhead (Rcaprd@aol.com) 8. 08:07 AM - Re: A-65 starting snafu (Gordon Bowen) 9. 08:30 AM - Re: A-65 starting snafu (Jim Markle) 10. 08:47 AM - Re: A-65 starting snafu (walt evans) 11. 09:43 AM - Re: A-65 starting snafu (Gordon Bowen) 12. 11:03 AM - Re: A-65 starting snafu (Gordon Bowen) 13. 11:31 AM - Re: A-65 starting snafu () 14. 11:33 AM - Re: Mould (TRichmo9@aol.com) 15. 12:33 PM - Re: A-65 starting snafu (TRichmo9@aol.com) 16. 12:47 PM - Re: overcast over Brodhead (Steve Eldredge) 17. 02:51 PM - Re: Seminars at Brodhead? (Dale Johnson) 18. 04:57 PM - Re: Mould (Mike Green) 19. 06:17 PM - Re: Mould (Peter W Johnson) 20. 07:17 PM - Re: Piet over Kansas (Michael Conkling) 21. 10:17 PM - Wing Construction (Catdesign) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:30 AM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead? I've been to some really interesting presentations by Vi Kapler and William Wynne at Brodhead......those were fun. So I'm wondering if there be any interest is seeing vacuum bagging, powdercoating, streamling wood legs or struts with a router, or some such thing at Brodhead? Maybe someone could setup a metal cutting bandsaw and a grinder and sander and give some step by step pointers on building the metal parts? (I personally think some hands on welding help by someone who knew what they were doing (CERTAINLY not me..) would be really neat.) Let's get one thing clear though....I'm certainly not pretending to be any kind of expert on any of this. But I would be glad to maybe point out a few easy ways to do some stuff (finding easy ways is my specialty) and maybe some mistakes to avoid (I've made them ALL already...) Anyway, I wouldn't mind bringing a vacuum bagging setup or my powder coating setup or whatever, if there would be any interest. Jim in Plano ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:03 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu In a message dated 6/23/2005 10:37:40 PM Central Standard Time, sbobka@charter.net writes: Walt, Tie it down. Have a good man in the cockpit. Have him open the throttle fully with the magnetos off. Pull the prop through slowly backwards. This will inhale air through the exhausts and exhale it out the carb so as to lean out the mixture. Don't worry about the mags firing as it is impossible for them to fire if they rotate backwards. After cleaning out the cylinders with 4 to 8 180 degree rotations, go to throttle closed, slowly reposition the balde to the 10:30 position. Then Mags on, throttle cracked, and it will start on the next flip. This is the same procedure to use for a flooded engine at any temperature. chris Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren This is the exact method that a guy on the south side of Kansas City showed me in '03, on my return trip from Brodhead. Worked like a charm. It was hot that day, and it wouldn't fire at all, untill we used this method. I don't have a primer...if it ain't there, it can't break. My engine seems to start better in the warmer weather...most of the time. Chris, I've been wondering what 'Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren' means. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:01 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet over Kansas I hadn't noticed that flight sim when I was there a couple of years ago. I'll have to go and check it out...hummmmm...aerobatics in a Piet... Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:48 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol List: A-65 starting snafu In a message dated 6/24/2005 11:16:30 AM Central Standard Time, elj@shreve.net writes: But the _most_ important thing I found in my engine, was to give a slight upswing before the downswing for the start. This worked wonders and proved to be equally effective on Corky's plane. That motion is done rather quickly, with a slight push up or clockwise (opposite direction from starting) before the downswing of the prop to start the engine. I found my engine at times wouldn't start without doing this and it became instinctive over the years with my engine and any other I hand propped. I'll have to try that one, too, if the need arises. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:42 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Info Requested Camping is the best at Brodhead !! That way you won't miss being woke up by the 'Dawn Patrol'. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:44 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead? In a message dated 6/25/2005 8:59:38 AM Central Standard Time, jim_markle@mindspring.com writes: So I'm wondering if there be any interest is seeing vacuum bagging, powdercoating, streamling wood legs or struts with a router, or some such thing at Brodhead? Jim, I am certain, that any seminar that you give would be educational, and Most Entertaining !! Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:31 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: overcast over Brodhead In a message dated 6/23/2005 10:52:21 AM Central Standard Time, steve@byu.edu writes: Back in 99' I brought 5 gallons of smoke oil and left it there as a stockpile for future smokers..... I wonder what happened to it. Stevee Stevee, Are you going to make it to Brodhead this year ? Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:50 AM PST US From: "Gordon Bowen" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu Chuck, I can help you with 1/2 your question below-------"Braumeister" mean Master of the technique of brewing beer. Meister is an official German education certification by another Brewing Master (one that has been granted a teaching certification after many long years as a "meister"). The Master teacher certifies that you have completed a long apprenticeship in the art and craft of brewing beer. Chris obviously a master beer brewer. No better crafted skill can one possess in and near Milwaukee. In regards to Flitzer or Flitzmotoren, don't know these "German" words. Perhaps they're highly technical terms that has something to do with brewing beer? Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu In a message dated 6/23/2005 10:37:40 PM Central Standard Time, sbobka@charter.net writes: Walt, Tie it down. Have a good man in the cockpit. Have him open the throttle fully with the magnetos off. Pull the prop through slowly backwards. This will inhale air through the exhausts and exhale it out the carb so as to lean out the mixture. Don't worry about the mags firing as it is impossible for them to fire if they rotate backwards. After cleaning out the cylinders with 4 to 8 180 degree rotations, go to throttle closed, slowly reposition the balde to the 10:30 position. Then Mags on, throttle cracked, and it will start on the next flip. This is the same procedure to use for a flooded engine at any temperature. chris Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren This is the exact method that a guy on the south side of Kansas City showed me in '03, on my return trip from Brodhead. Worked like a charm. It was hot that day, and it wouldn't fire at all, untill we used this method. I don't have a primer...if it ain't there, it can't break. My engine seems to start better in the warmer weather...most of the time. Chris, I've been wondering what 'Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren' means. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:38 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu DNA: do not archive Its-Bogus: do not forward to list - No Plain-Text Section --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:47:42 AM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu <00c001c57997$37df97b0$2b9870d1@defaultcomp> As per Google Language tools,,, ' brewing masters and supervisor of the Flitzer and Flitzermotoren ' walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bowen To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu Chuck, I can help you with 1/2 your question below-------"Braumeister" mean Master of the technique of brewing beer. Meister is an official German education certification by another Brewing Master (one that has been granted a teaching certification after many long years as a "meister"). The Master teacher certifies that you have completed a long apprenticeship in the art and craft of brewing beer. Chris obviously a master beer brewer. No better crafted skill can one possess in and near Milwaukee. In regards to Flitzer or Flitzmotoren, don't know these "German" words. Perhaps they're highly technical terms that has something to do with brewing beer? Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu In a message dated 6/23/2005 10:37:40 PM Central Standard Time, sbobka@charter.net writes: Walt, Tie it down. Have a good man in the cockpit. Have him open the throttle fully with the magnetos off. Pull the prop through slowly backwards. This will inhale air through the exhausts and exhale it out the carb so as to lean out the mixture. Don't worry about the mags firing as it is impossible for them to fire if they rotate backwards. After cleaning out the cylinders with 4 to 8 180 degree rotations, go to throttle closed, slowly reposition the balde to the 10:30 position. Then Mags on, throttle cracked, and it will start on the next flip. This is the same procedure to use for a flooded engine at any temperature. chris Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren This is the exact method that a guy on the south side of Kansas City showed me in '03, on my return trip from Brodhead. Worked like a charm. It was hot that day, and it wouldn't fire at all, untill we used this method. I don't have a primer...if it ain't there, it can't break. My engine seems to start better in the warmer weather...most of the time. Chris, I've been wondering what 'Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren' means. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:43:51 AM PST US From: "Gordon Bowen" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu Ck'ed with my German relatives in Bavaria. Flitzer is a slang word for mosquito and/or black fly (fliege). As in: "get away from me you damn flitzer, or someone go get the Raid and kill these damn flitzers". Meisterflugmotoreninspektor or Meisterflugmachininbau, Sportiv, maybe? Brewing Master (a new seminar at Brodhead) and Inspector of Flying Pess (a highly sought after specialist during a long wet hot summer in WI). Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Markle To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:30 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle Brewing master and inspector of the sporty little jobs (airplanes) and sporty little job (airplane) engines -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Bowen Sent: Jun 25, 2005 10:04 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu Chuck, I can help you with 1/2 your question below-------"Braumeister" mean Master of the technique of brewing beer. Meister is an official German education certification by another Brewing Master (one that has been granted a teaching certification after many long years as a "meister"). The Master teacher certifies that you have completed a long apprenticeship in the art and craft of brewing beer. Chris obviously a master beer brewer. No better crafted skill can one possess in and near Milwaukee. In regards to Flitzer or Flitzmotoren, don't know these "German" words. Perhaps they're highly technical terms that has something to do with brewing beer? Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu In a message dated 6/23/2005 10:37:40 PM Central Standard Time, sbobka@charter.net writes: Walt, Tie it down. Have a good man in the cockpit. Have him open the throttle fully with the magnetos off. Pull the prop through slowly backwards. This will inhale air through the exhausts and exhale it out the carb so as to lean out the mixture. Don't worry about the mags firing as it is impossible for them to fire if they rotate backwards. After cleaning out the cylinders with 4 to 8 180 degree rotations, go to throttle closed, slowly reposition the balde to the 10:30 position. Then Mags on, throttle cracked, and it will start on the next flip. This is the same procedure to use for a flooded engine at any temperature. chris Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren This is the exact method that a guy on the south side of Kansas City showed me in '03, on my return trip from Brodhead. Worked like a charm. It was hot that day, and it wouldn't fire at all, untill we used this method. I don't have a primer...if it ain't there, it can't break. My engine seems to start better in the warmer weather...most of the time. Chris, I've been wondering what 'Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren' means. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:03:58 AM PST US From: "Gordon Bowen" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu Upon further research, (had to wait until my Bavarian relatives staggered home from the biergartens, and sobered up some), Flitzer is actually a german word, but not high booklearnin' german. These kinfolk of mine live within spitting distance from the famous hops growing region of the Hallertau Valley north of Munich. A "flitzer" is a unit of hops designated for the US market, ie. Michelob (ck out their advs). Apparently, due to national security reasons, the farmers of the world class Hallertau hops are not allowed to export the better quality hops outside Germany. Kinda like: For national security reasons, we could not sell a major US oil/gas manufacturer to the Chinese. Anyway, my kin tell me the wiley German Hops farmers refer to these crappy grade of hops sold to Bud, as "flitzers" (assumingly due to the flying pests these hops seem to attract). So Flitzer inspector does have something to do with Chris's skill as a Master Brewer. Hope this clears up Chuck's questions and sorry for the previous mis-interpretation message about "Inspector of Flying Pest Eradication Motors", (my Bavarian dielect is kinda rusty, like my flying skills). Back to the shop, gotta finish paint the wings of Osprey. Gordon B. ----- Original Message ----- From: walt evans To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:47 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu As per Google Language tools,,, ' brewing masters and supervisor of the Flitzer and Flitzermotoren ' walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bowen To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu Chuck, I can help you with 1/2 your question below-------"Braumeister" mean Master of the technique of brewing beer. Meister is an official German education certification by another Brewing Master (one that has been granted a teaching certification after many long years as a "meister"). The Master teacher certifies that you have completed a long apprenticeship in the art and craft of brewing beer. Chris obviously a master beer brewer. No better crafted skill can one possess in and near Milwaukee. In regards to Flitzer or Flitzmotoren, don't know these "German" words. Perhaps they're highly technical terms that has something to do with brewing beer? Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu In a message dated 6/23/2005 10:37:40 PM Central Standard Time, sbobka@charter.net writes: Walt, Tie it down. Have a good man in the cockpit. Have him open the throttle fully with the magnetos off. Pull the prop through slowly backwards. This will inhale air through the exhausts and exhale it out the carb so as to lean out the mixture. Don't worry about the mags firing as it is impossible for them to fire if they rotate backwards. After cleaning out the cylinders with 4 to 8 180 degree rotations, go to throttle closed, slowly reposition the balde to the 10:30 position. Then Mags on, throttle cracked, and it will start on the next flip. This is the same procedure to use for a flooded engine at any temperature. chris Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren This is the exact method that a guy on the south side of Kansas City showed me in '03, on my return trip from Brodhead. Worked like a charm. It was hot that day, and it wouldn't fire at all, untill we used this method. I don't have a primer...if it ain't there, it can't break. My engine seems to start better in the warmer weather...most of the time. Chris, I've been wondering what 'Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren' means. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:55 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu Actually, the "Flitzer" Chris refers to is the Flitzer line of aircraft. Check out: www.flitzer-aero.com Cute little biplanes that are rapidly developing an enthusiastic following. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bowen To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 1:01 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu Upon further research, (had to wait until my Bavarian relatives staggered home from the biergartens, and sobered up some), Flitzer is actually a german word, but not high booklearnin' german. These kinfolk of mine live within spitting distance from the famous hops growing region of the Hallertau Valley north of Munich. A "flitzer" is a unit of hops designated for the US market, ie. Michelob (ck out their advs). Apparently, due to national security reasons, the farmers of the world class Hallertau hops are not allowed to export the better quality hops outside Germany. Kinda like: For national security reasons, we could not sell a major US oil/gas manufacturer to the Chinese. Anyway, my kin tell me the wiley German Hops farmers refer to these crappy grade of hops sold to Bud, as "flitzers" (assumingly due to the flying pests these hops seem to attract). So Flitzer inspector does have something to do with Chris's skill as a Master Brewer. Hope this clears up Chuck's questions and sorry for the previous mis-interpretation message about "Inspector of Flying Pest Eradication Motors", (my Bavarian dielect is kinda rusty, like my flying skills). Back to the shop, gotta finish paint the wings of Osprey. Gordon B. ----- Original Message ----- From: walt evans To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:47 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu As per Google Language tools,,, ' brewing masters and supervisor of the Flitzer and Flitzermotoren ' walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bowen To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu Chuck, I can help you with 1/2 your question below-------"Braumeister" mean Master of the technique of brewing beer. Meister is an official German education certification by another Brewing Master (one that has been granted a teaching certification after many long years as a "meister"). The Master teacher certifies that you have completed a long apprenticeship in the art and craft of brewing beer. Chris obviously a master beer brewer. No better crafted skill can one possess in and near Milwaukee. In regards to Flitzer or Flitzmotoren, don't know these "German" words. Perhaps they're highly technical terms that has something to do with brewing beer? Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu In a message dated 6/23/2005 10:37:40 PM Central Standard Time, sbobka@charter.net writes: Walt, Tie it down. Have a good man in the cockpit. Have him open the throttle fully with the magnetos off. Pull the prop through slowly backwards. This will inhale air through the exhausts and exhale it out the carb so as to lean out the mixture. Don't worry about the mags firing as it is impossible for them to fire if they rotate backwards. After cleaning out the cylinders with 4 to 8 180 degree rotations, go to throttle closed, slowly reposition the balde to the 10:30 position. Then Mags on, throttle cracked, and it will start on the next flip. This is the same procedure to use for a flooded engine at any temperature. chris Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren This is the exact method that a guy on the south side of Kansas City showed me in '03, on my return trip from Brodhead. Worked like a charm. It was hot that day, and it wouldn't fire at all, untill we used this method. I don't have a primer...if it ain't there, it can't break. My engine seems to start better in the warmer weather...most of the time. Chris, I've been wondering what 'Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren' means. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:33:34 AM PST US From: TRichmo9@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:Mould --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TRichmo9@aol.com hey what happened to cpcworld.com i need to go to peters web site tom ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:33:05 PM PST US From: TRichmo9@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TRichmo9@aol.com i have one of those cute little bipes its a mong sport its awsome ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:47:41 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: overcast over Brodhead From: "Steve Eldredge" Thanks for asking.... Every year I think I can get away. Last year I even had 100 hats made to provide gas money. (Still have most of them) This year I'm so close to finishing my Stinson I can taste it. Unfortunatly I'm likely to stay home again, though your trip log made me want to do it all over again. I flew out in '99 and loved it. 43 hours in the air in 10 days. I've got a commitment a day or so before the Brodhead weekend that I can't avoid. Maybe next year. Steve Eldredge PS if any of you want a piet hat let me know! $20 shipped steve@byu.edu ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: overcast over Brodhead In a message dated 6/23/2005 10:52:21 AM Central Standard Time, steve@byu.edu writes: Back in 99' I brought 5 gallons of smoke oil and left it there as a stockpile for future smokers..... I wonder what happened to it. =09 Stevee Stevee, Are you going to make it to Brodhead this year ? Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:51:46 PM PST US s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=KWtlSu4YvPCfWk+AMGg7I2YSXDgW0JZWWrFlpsRE/lVbrtmznI07MkNGhoYg+ru/; From: "Dale Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead? Jim We already did a powder coating demo at Brodhead. It was well received. Had a lot of Questions durning and after the demo. Dale in Mpls ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Markle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead? I've been to some really interesting presentations by Vi Kapler and William Wynne at Brodhead......those were fun. So I'm wondering if there be any interest is seeing vacuum bagging, powdercoating, streamling wood legs or struts with a router, or some such thing at Brodhead? Maybe someone could setup a metal cutting bandsaw and a grinder and sander and give some step by step pointers on building the metal parts? (I personally think some hands on welding help by someone who knew what they were doing (CERTAINLY not me..) would be really neat.) Let's get one thing clear though....I'm certainly not pretending to be any kind of expert on any of this. But I would be glad to maybe point out a few easy ways to do some stuff (finding easy ways is my specialty) and maybe some mistakes to avoid (I've made them ALL already...) Anyway, I wouldn't mind bringing a vacuum bagging setup or my powder coating setup or whatever, if there would be any interest. Jim in Plano ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:57:37 PM PST US From: "Mike Green" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:Mould --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mike Green" Tom, It's still there. Try www.cpc-world.com I paid Peter a visit about a month ago and he's done a great job. I wanted to get a few photo's and ideas before he covered it.( which won't be far off.) Regards, Mike Green Romsey Victoria AUSTRALIA ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:Mould > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TRichmo9@aol.com > > hey what happened to cpcworld.com i need to go to peters web site > tom > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:17:58 PM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List:Mould --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Peter W Johnson" Ted, It's http://www.cpc-world.com. Cheers Peter. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TRichmo9@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:Mould --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TRichmo9@aol.com hey what happened to cpcworld.com i need to go to peters web site tom ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:47 PM PST US From: "Michael Conkling" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet over Kansas We did a rework of the gallery about 1 1/2 years ago -- we've been running Microsoft FS2004 since then with the Piet on one sim. station & a Lear 45 on the other station in that exhibit. You can download the Piet at http://www.theoldhangar.com/ -- look for the "Grand Opening Special" -- I'll have to adjust the settings and get the rudder bar ready for a future visit!! (the control yoke will probably stay -- it's survived 4 years of use!! ;-) Mike C. Pretty Prairie, KS ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet over Kansas I hadn't noticed that flight sim when I was there a couple of years ago. I'll have to go and check it out...hummmmm...aerobatics in a Piet... Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:17:15 PM PST US From: "Catdesign" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Construction What kind of fixture is most often used to build the wings on. Do I need a solid table or would a couple of good saw horses supporting the spars work (One on each end and one or two in the middle) Chris Tracy Sacramento, Ca