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1. 04:27 AM - Re: A-65 starting snafu (Ed G.)
2. 06:12 AM - Re: Japanese Piets (M&M Stanley)
3. 07:30 AM - Plans available at Oshkosh? (Michael Turrell)
4. 08:41 AM - Re: Plans available at Oshkosh? (Dick Navratil)
5. 08:42 AM - seminar on rigging (Michael D Cuy)
6. 08:52 AM - 75 Anniversary Hats ()
7. 10:26 AM - Re: Japanese Piet's in progress (Steve Eldredge)
8. 12:40 PM - Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes (Gordon Bowen)
9. 12:50 PM - A-65 starter (walt evans)
10. 03:08 PM - Re: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes (Dave and Connie)
11. 03:42 PM - Re: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes (TRichmo9@aol.com)
12. 03:42 PM - Re: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes (TRichmo9@aol.com)
13. 03:45 PM - broadhead (TRichmo9@aol.com)
14. 03:57 PM - Re: A-65 starter (Christian Bobka)
15. 04:02 PM - Re: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes (Christian Bobka)
16. 04:17 PM - Re: seminar on rigging (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
17. 06:06 PM - Re: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes (Gordon Bowen)
18. 07:38 PM - Re: Seminars at Brodhead? (john e fay)
19. 10:51 PM - Wing question (Catdesign)
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 starting snafu |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed G." <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>From: Rcaprd@aol.com
>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu
>Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:32:44 EDT
>
>In a message dated 6/23/2005 10:37:40 PM Central Standard Time,
>sbobka@charter.net writes:
>Walt,
>
>Tie it down. Have a good man in the cockpit. Have him open the throttle
>fully with the magnetos off. Pull the prop through slowly backwards. This
>will
>inhale air through the exhausts and exhale it out the carb so as to lean
>out
>the mixture. Don't worry about the mags firing as it is impossible for
>them to
>fire if they rotate backwards. After cleaning out the cylinders with 4 to
>8
>180 degree rotations, go to throttle closed, slowly reposition the balde to
>the 10:30 position. Then Mags on, throttle cracked, and it will start on
>the
>next flip. This is the same procedure to use for a flooded engine at any
>temperature.
>
>chris
>Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
>This is the exact method that a guy on the south side of Kansas City showed
>me in '03, on my return trip from Brodhead. Worked like a charm. It was
>hot
>that day, and it wouldn't fire at all, untill we used this method.
>I don't have a primer...if it ain't there, it can't break. My engine seems
>to start better in the warmer weather...most of the time.
>
>Chris,
>I've been wondering what 'Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und
>Flitzermotoren' means.
>
>Chuck G.
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| Subject: | Re: Japanese Piets |
Hi Chris,
Yep, the report go's, ............... "Unidentified square wing tipped
aircraft with red circles under the wings spotted at 45,000 ft over Brodhead
"..............
Thanks for the comments!
Mark Stanley
Japan
Dick,
Don;t kid around. Those Japanese aircraft during the big one had good
range.
Chris
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| Subject: | Plans available at Oshkosh? |
Hello everyone,wonderful site you all have here.Can anyone tell me if plans for
the Piet are available at Oshkosh as it would save me a few Canadian dollars.Thanks.
Windsor Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Plans available at Oshkosh? |
I am not aware of anyone selling plans at OSH. The best source is from Donald
Pietenpol directly, by mail. Last year at OSH they were working on a set of wings
for a Piet in the wood tent. They may still be this year also.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Turrell
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Plans available at Oshkosh?
Hello everyone,wonderful site you all have here.Can anyone tell me if plans for
the Piet are available at Oshkosh as it would save me a few Canadian dollars.Thanks.
Windsor Mike
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| Subject: | seminar on rigging |
om><009201c579f5$3fbfa5c0$57c5fea9@ mke>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
It would be nice to have someone present the proper rigging procedures for
Pietenpols for guys who might
be EAA Technical Counselors tutoring builders in their area. (or for
builders directly. Jack Phillips comes to
mind, but he'll be quite busy answering questions about his beautiful new
airplane.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | 75 Anniversary Hats |
Here is the info on the hats, sorry to many of you who this will be a
repeat from last year. If the images don't make it, They will be on the
photoshare soon. Or email me off line and I'll send them to you.
Steve E.
On the back and Low and Slow on the front. This edition will be done
in Gold thread. I've got the same hat shells as last time, but with
some added colors. Black seemed to be the most popular front bill size
and so I ordered most in black. I do have a dozen each of the Green,
Red, and Yellow Gold however
Here is the specs and pricing:
The Hat:
Heavy Stone Washed Denim low crown unconstructed buckle back adjustment.
Color is khaki with a green, red, black or gold bill. (sorry no blue
this time....)
One size fits all. Basically I got my favorite hat and called the
manufacture and spec'd it from it. You will love it. It is crushable
and comfortable.
The Image:
The 75 year anniversary image will be similar to the one on previous
years hats, but this one has a Gold "75 YRS" on the front. I think it
is really cool. Check the web site if you want to see the revised
image. http://aircamper.byu.edu
The embroidery:
13000 stitches of the finest thread. 75 Years in Gold thread
The price
$20 with standard message on the back "Cherry Grove -75- Brodhead"
Free Shipping!!!
Send me an email including details and your Phone # to:
steve@byu.edu
Check or paypal OK.
Paypal address is wifeopilot@sfcn.org
Checks go to:
Steve Eldredge
2810 E Canyon Rd
Spanish Fork UT 84660
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| Subject: | Japanese Piet's in progress |
Kirei na Pietenpol. Mita-san Gokurosama desu! Mo sugu tobu to omoimas!
Steve E
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of M&M
Stanley
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Japanese Piet's in progress
Hi Pieters,
Attached is a shot taken of Piet # 1 in Japan. The owner/builder
(T.Mita) is in the front seat and I am in the rear.
We were just having a session of making airplane noises so I thought I
would send the group a shot.
It is powered by an A-65, and is the short fuz version.
My Piet (#2) is still coming along although progress is slow. I have
completed 30 full ribs and only need the 2 rear rib sections and the
single forward rib for the center section.
The ribs on the cabane struts in the photo of Piet #1, are from my
collection.
I plan to look around for some timber for the spars, if I can't find
that, then I will start on the fin/rudder etc.
Mark Stanley
in hot'n'humid Japan
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| Subject: | Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes |
----- Original Message -----
From: Gordon Bowen
Subject: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes
Group
I need new brake linings on these wheels ca. 1941 detailed below. Does anybody
know for a source for replacement linings that one can rivet in? They're about
1 1/2" wide and encircle the inside of these wheel/brake drum combos, brass
riveted in place. The actual "shoes" are steel and expand outward using pull
cables to make contact with the pads. I suspect this was a WWII setup whereby
the rubber and brake pads could be quickly changed, by simply taking off the
axle nut, removing complete assembly sans metal brake shoes that are bolted on
the axles internal flange. Gotta think other ole timers like the Piet used
this type of mechanical brake system, buy don't know what type of aircraft they
originally came from. Any help would be appreciated.
Gordon Bowen
----- Original Message -----
From: Floyd Jackson
Subject: Piet Wheels
Shinn Device Co.
Butler PA.
Model, # 6C 5HB
ATC 63
MAX WT. 900 lb
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Has anyone heard of or seen anyone retrofitting an A-65 with an electric starter?
walt evans
NX140DL
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes |
From the Taylorcraft club page:
Shinn Wheel & Brake parts
SkyBound, Atlanta Georgia
Shinn Wheels, brakes, cables, backing plates.
Jim Greene (owner) 770-446-6797
Shinn brakes were used on Taylorcrafts and Luscombes. About the only
special tool that you will need is a rivet countersink. Last set of shoes
that I bought was about $30 I think.
Dave
N36078 '41 BC-12-65
At 03:39 PM 6/27/2005, Gordon Bowen wrote:
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:gbowen@ptialaska.net>Gordon Bowen
>To: <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:35 AM
>Subject: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes
>
>Group
>I need new brake linings on these wheels ca. 1941 detailed below. Does
>anybody know for a source for replacement linings that one can rivet
>in? They're about 1 1/2" wide and encircle the inside of these
>wheel/brake drum combos, brass riveted in place. The actual "shoes" are
>steel and expand outward using pull cables to make contact with the
>pads. I suspect this was a WWII setup whereby the rubber and brake pads
>could be quickly changed, by simply taking off the axle nut, removing
>complete assembly sans metal brake shoes that are bolted on the axles
>internal flange. Gotta think other ole timers like the Piet used this
>type of mechanical brake system, buy don't know what type of aircraft they
>originally came from. Any help would be appreciated.
>Gordon Bowen
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:fjackson@se.rr.com>Floyd Jackson
>To: <mailto:gbowen@ptialaska.net>Gordon Bowen
>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:52 AM
>Subject: Piet Wheels
>
>Shinn Device Co.
>Butler PA.
>Model, # 6C 5HB
>ATC 63
>MAX WT. 900 lb
>
>
>-- incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TRichmo9@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TRichmo9@aol.com
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TRichmo9@aol.com
hey hey im going ill get to meet all you sky bandits that will be there im
fly up to madison and jim markle is picking me up at the airport, i can hardly
wait and im going to try bumming a ride in a piet tom
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d="scan'208,217"; a="1184851270:sNHT61798134"
| Subject: | Re: A-65 starter |
Walt,
A65-9
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starter
Has anyone heard of or seen anyone retrofitting an A-65 with an electric starter?
walt evans
NX140DL
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes |
Gordon,
It is a tough job to do the linings correctly. I would consider sending the inner
wheel halves to Skybound and have them do the relining.
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave and Connie
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com ; pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes
From the Taylorcraft club page:
Shinn Wheel & Brake parts
SkyBound, Atlanta Georgia
Shinn Wheels, brakes, cables, backing plates.
Jim Greene (owner) 770-446-6797
Shinn brakes were used on Taylorcrafts and Luscombes. About the only special
tool that you will need is a rivet countersink. Last set of shoes that I bought
was about $30 I think.
Dave
N36078 '41 BC-12-65
At 03:39 PM 6/27/2005, Gordon Bowen wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: Gordon Bowen
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:35 AM
Subject: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes
Group
I need new brake linings on these wheels ca. 1941 detailed below. Does anybody
know for a source for replacement linings that one can rivet in? They're
about 1 1/2" wide and encircle the inside of these wheel/brake drum combos, brass
riveted in place. The actual "shoes" are steel and expand outward using
pull cables to make contact with the pads. I suspect this was a WWII setup whereby
the rubber and brake pads could be quickly changed, by simply taking off
the axle nut, removing complete assembly sans metal brake shoes that are bolted
on the axles internal flange. Gotta think other ole timers like the Piet used
this type of mechanical brake system, buy don't know what type of aircraft
they originally came from. Any help would be appreciated.
Gordon Bowen
----- Original Message -----
From: Floyd Jackson
To: Gordon Bowen
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:52 AM
Subject: Piet Wheels
Shinn Device Co.
Butler PA.
Model, # 6C 5HB
ATC 63
MAX WT. 900 lb
-- incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
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s=dk20050327; d=usmo.com;
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| Subject: | Re: seminar on rigging |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com>
How about someone doing a seminar or jigging up a landing gear. The steel
split gear preferably?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: seminar on rigging
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
> It would be nice to have someone present the proper rigging procedures for
> Pietenpols for guys who might
> be EAA Technical Counselors tutoring builders in their area. (or for
> builders directly. Jack Phillips comes to
> mind, but he'll be quite busy answering questions about his beautiful new
> airplane.
>
> Mike C.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes |
Thanks for help and quick response, great group with a wealth of experience/information.
Gordon
----- Original Message -----
From: Christian Bobka
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes
Gordon,
It is a tough job to do the linings correctly. I would consider sending the
inner wheel halves to Skybound and have them do the relining.
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave and Connie
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com ; pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes
From the Taylorcraft club page:
Shinn Wheel & Brake parts
SkyBound, Atlanta Georgia
Shinn Wheels, brakes, cables, backing plates.
Jim Greene (owner) 770-446-6797
Shinn brakes were used on Taylorcrafts and Luscombes. About the only special
tool that you will need is a rivet countersink. Last set of shoes that I bought
was about $30 I think.
Dave
N36078 '41 BC-12-65
At 03:39 PM 6/27/2005, Gordon Bowen wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: Gordon Bowen
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:35 AM
Subject: Fw: Piet Wheels/brakes
Group
I need new brake linings on these wheels ca. 1941 detailed below. Does anybody
know for a source for replacement linings that one can rivet in? They're
about 1 1/2" wide and encircle the inside of these wheel/brake drum combos,
brass riveted in place. The actual "shoes" are steel and expand outward using
pull cables to make contact with the pads. I suspect this was a WWII setup
whereby the rubber and brake pads could be quickly changed, by simply taking off
the axle nut, removing complete assembly sans metal brake shoes that are bolted
on the axles internal flange. Gotta think other ole timers like the Piet
used this type of mechanical brake system, buy don't know what type of aircraft
they originally came from. Any help would be appreciated.
Gordon Bowen
----- Original Message -----
From: Floyd Jackson
To: Gordon Bowen
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:52 AM
Subject: Piet Wheels
Shinn Device Co.
Butler PA.
Model, # 6C 5HB
ATC 63
MAX WT. 900 lb
-- incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
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| Subject: | Re: Seminars at Brodhead? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: john e fay <jefay@juno.com>
The seminar I would love to see at Brodhead would be someone showing how
to make some of the metal parts, and giving appropriate tips and
warnings.
John Fay
in Peoria
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" <catdesign@intergate.com>
I need to decide if I can build the one piece wing. Here is the situation,
it looks like I will be building my wing about 60 miles from my house(in my
parents garage) I might be able to build the one piece wing there. After I
build it, it will not fit in my garage and storing it in the house is not an
option. I will not have a hanger for any foreseeable future so that's out
too. Is it really feasible to build the one piece wing? Will I run into
problems if I build the wing and fuselage without fitting them together?
Should I just build the 3 piece wing so my life is easier? Come on let me
know what you think, everyone has an opinion.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
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