---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/30/05: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:06 AM - Re: Wing Construction opinions (Ed G.) 2. 06:47 AM - Re: 42nd EAA Fly-In El Dorado KS (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)) 3. 07:13 AM - Re: Next TACO meeting to honor Steve Ruse (Steve Ruse) 4. 02:30 PM - Re: Wing Construction opinions (Carl Vought) 5. 05:39 PM - Re: Wing Construction opinions (Rcaprd@aol.com) 6. 06:11 PM - Re: Next TACO meeting to honor Steve Ruse (Rcaprd@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:11 AM PST US From: "Ed G." Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing Construction opinions --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed G." Well Chris...You didn't tell us all those reasons from the get go..Your Dad sounds like a really neat guy..Wish mine was like that...And involveing him is a great reason to build at his place..Not too many of us are lucky enough to have have a shop big enough to build the one piece wing...Even though I agree it's the best way to go ...My shop is only 28 X 24 and It wouldn't fit in my house either or I would have built a one piece...If you build the three piece you could get a light weight trailer and haul the wing panels up to your Dad's once in a while, Weather permitting of course.. they're only 13 1/2 feet long and that way he could be involved, probably be a big help and get some use out of all those new tools. I bet he would enjoy that.. but having to drive 120 miles round trip each time you want to work on your one piece wing sounds like a deterant to me..Good luck which ever way you decide go with it....Ed G. See Ya'll at Brodhead !! Do Not Archive >From: "Catdesign" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Construction opinions >Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:59:57 -0700 > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" > >Thanks to all who offered their opinion on what wing to build. I really >want to build the one piece but I can't imagine being able to afford a >hanger here in California. Don't know what I am going to do when I get the >plane done but we will cross that hurdle when we get there. Most likely >I'll opt for the 3 piece and accept the weight and added build time. I just >hate having to accept reality. > >Now for the reason I am building my wing 60 miles from home. Well I'm not >proud to admit this, but I figure if it's sitting in Dad's garage he will >of course have to help me and well, hey Dad you mind gluing this up for me >while I'm gone and hey why dont you do the same thing to the other one >while your at it. I think it will be cool to include him in this endeavor, >he is a long time EAAer but never a plane builder, he wants an RV-7 but at >68 I doubt he would start one. So yes, I agree with you guys about >building them at home but I have alternative motives here. Plus he has a >bunch of woodworking tools that have never been used and it might make my >mom happy to see them used for a change. As an aside, my Dad is a retired >Air Force pilot who flew KC-135, C-97, Some kind of spray plane in Vietnam >(no Agent Orange that he knew of, just bug spray), a Saberliner ferrying >Air Force bigwigs, T-38, T-37, T-34, T-33, T-41 and I'm sure others. His >final assignment was refueling SR-71's (he has some cool pictures). He has >over 20,000 hours in the air, ATP, Commercial, Multi engine, instrument and >he would let me with all my 60hr of flight time fly in the left seat of our >182 and truly be Pilot-in-Command. I learned a lot flying with him before >we had to sell the plane. He even got me into a full motion KC-10 >simulator, you'd be surprised at how easy it is to fly and land, but watch >out for Dutch roll on final or you'll scrape a wing pod if you don't, and I >didn't. The only thing that makes me a bit sad is I doubt I will be able to >get him into my plane when it's done. I'd really love to be able to take >him flying. If I ever hit the lottery I'm going to buy him a RV-7 and give >him a gas card. > >While I'm babbling along, how many civilians can say they have been in the >traffic pattern with KC-135s, T-38s, U-2s, SR-71s and the odd C-5 and >C-130. I can. Nothing like being on downwind and hearing a SR-71 being >cleared to land while on a 20 mile final, and it beats you in. Yes, T-41s >(C-172's) are that slow. > >Thanks for listening >Chris Tracy >Sacramento, Ca >Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:22 AM PST US ETAsAhQqFOOi6VkHUrQ2EWSW8N871kLnEwIUb/jgSDO5sD0ARntN1l3763mRG74= From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 42nd EAA Fly-In El Dorado KS --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Hi Chuck: I am planning to go to Ch.88. I need to get some shut-eye first, which will ruin the whole day. I'll be there around 2pm...after most of the action is over. Or I may just stay home and haul another trailer load of tree limbs to he dump. Leon S. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:26 AM PST US From: Steve Ruse Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Next TACO meeting to honor Steve Ruse --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Steve Ruse Hey guys, I'd still like to get together soon if you guys can make it. Any thoughts on a destination or date? Somewhere between San Antonio and Dallas would be great for me. The last weekend in July is out for me, I'll be at Oshkosh. Steve Ruse N6383J - KFTW >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of >> N321TX@wmconnect.com >> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 8:19 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Next TACO meeting to honor Steve Ruse >> >> >> Actually the subject line should read... Next TACO meeting to honor and >> induct Steve Ruse and gawk at his new Texas Air Camper... >> >> As soon as Steve has an idea of when he will have his Air Camper in >> Texas, and at a time convenient to him, let's have a meeting. Maybe we can >> tie this into Mike Cuy's visit. Maybe Corky can swing by? Maybe Oscar will >> have his repairs done and can meet us at a location between San Antonio and >> Dallas if there isn't a Presidential TFR. Maybe some other Yankees >> other than >> Mike can visit? >> >> Just a thought. >> >> Sterling >> 5TA6 >> NOTAMS. Fresh cow chips on runway, land at your own risk. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:30:43 PM PST US From: "Carl Vought" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Construction opinions --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" Don't get discouraged too soon. I know a man who built a Piet in a second story apartment. The wing was straight, alright, but in two pieces (no center section). Carl Vought ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catdesign" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Construction opinions > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" > > Thanks to all who offered their opinion on what wing to build. I really > want to build the one piece but I can't imagine being able to afford a > hanger here in California. Don't know what I am going to do when I get the > plane done but we will cross that hurdle when we get there. Most likely I'll > opt for the 3 piece and accept the weight and added build time. I just hate > having to accept reality. > > Now for the reason I am building my wing 60 miles from home. Well I'm not > proud to admit this, but I figure if it's sitting in Dad's garage he will of > course have to help me and well, hey Dad you mind gluing this up for me > while I'm gone and hey why dont you do the same thing to the other one while > your at it. I think it will be cool to include him in this endeavor, he is > a long time EAAer but never a plane builder, he wants an RV-7 but at 68 I > doubt he would start one. So yes, I agree with you guys about building them > at home but I have alternative motives here. Plus he has a bunch of > woodworking tools that have never been used and it might make my mom happy > to see them used for a change. As an aside, my Dad is a retired Air Force > pilot who flew KC-135, C-97, Some kind of spray plane in Vietnam (no Agent > Orange that he knew of, just bug spray), a Saberliner ferrying Air Force > bigwigs, T-38, T-37, T-34, T-33, T-41 and I'm sure others. His final > assignment was refueling SR-71's (he has some cool pictures). He has over > 20,000 hours in the air, ATP, Commercial, Multi engine, instrument and he > would let me with all my 60hr of flight time fly in the left seat of our 182 > and truly be Pilot-in-Command. I learned a lot flying with him before we > had to sell the plane. He even got me into a full motion KC-10 simulator, > you'd be surprised at how easy it is to fly and land, but watch out for > Dutch roll on final or you'll scrape a wing pod if you don't, and I didn't. > The only thing that makes me a bit sad is I doubt I will be able to get him > into my plane when it's done. I'd really love to be able to take him flying. > If I ever hit the lottery I'm going to buy him a RV-7 and give him a gas > card. > > While I'm babbling along, how many civilians can say they have been in the > traffic pattern with KC-135s, T-38s, U-2s, SR-71s and the odd C-5 and C-130. > I can. Nothing like being on downwind and hearing a SR-71 being cleared to > land while on a 20 mile final, and it beats you in. Yes, T-41s (C-172's) are > that slow. > > Thanks for listening > Chris Tracy > Sacramento, Ca > Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:24 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Construction opinions In a message dated 6/30/2005 1:01:43 AM Central Standard Time, catdesign@intergate.com writes: Well I'm not proud to admit this, but I figure if it's sitting in Dad's garage he will of course have to help me and well, hey Dad you mind gluing this up for me while I'm gone and hey why dont you do the same thing to the other one while your at it. I think it will be cool to include him in this endeavor, he is a long time EAAer but never a plane builder, he wants an RV-7 but at 68 I doubt he would start one. Chris, In light of this new info, I change my opinion, and think you should DEFINITELY build the 3 piece wing, 60 miles away at your Dad's place. I know his type, and I Guarantee you he will become enthusiastically involved. I also Guarantee you he will enjoy flying the ol' Pietenpol more than anything he has ever flown. You could easily build many of the sub assemblies at home, and use his place for final assembly. Building a Pietenpol is a Perfect Father / Son project...especially if he has the tools and does a lot of the work...just ask Mad Dawg Davis, or Sterling Brooks !! Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:06 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Next TACO meeting to honor Steve Ruse In a message dated 6/30/2005 9:14:49 AM Central Standard Time, steve@wotelectronics.com writes: Hey guys, I'd still like to get together soon if you guys can make it. Any thoughts on a destination or date? Somewhere between San Antonio and Dallas would be great for me. The last weekend in July is out for me, I'll be at Oshkosh. Steve Ruse N6383J - KFTW Ditto for me !! I'm holding back a couple days vacation for this one !! Chuck Gantzer NX770CG