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1. 05:59 AM - Pietenpol Supplemental Plan Packages offered ... (Keri-Ann Price)
2. 06:18 AM - brakes (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 06:19 AM - Re: Next TACO meeting to honor Steve Ruse (Carl Vought)
4. 06:43 AM - Try this ..... Plan Packages. (Keri-Ann Price)
5. 07:24 AM - Re: brakes (Phillips, Jack)
6. 08:18 AM - Re: brakes (walt evans)
7. 09:01 AM - Re: brakes (Gordon Bowen)
8. 09:29 AM - Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 (Gordon Bowen)
9. 09:44 AM - Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 (Mark)
10. 10:51 AM - Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 (Jim Ash)
11. 11:07 AM - Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 (Ben Charvet)
12. 12:50 PM - Fw: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 (Gordon Bowen)
13. 03:20 PM - ATV brakes (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
14. 04:05 PM - Re: brakes (walt evans)
15. 04:38 PM - Hello! (Stephen!)
16. 04:53 PM - Re: Fw: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 (Galen Hutcheson)
17. 05:46 PM - Re: Fw: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 (Isablcorky@aol.com)
18. 06:07 PM - Re: Hello! (Galen Hutcheson)
19. 06:13 PM - Re: Fw: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 (Galen Hutcheson)
20. 06:52 PM - Re: Hello! (Gordon Bowen)
21. 08:26 PM - Re: Hello! (Stephen!)
22. 08:32 PM - Re: Hello! (Stephen!)
23. 08:37 PM - Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 (Stephen!)
24. 09:02 PM - Re: brakes (Rcaprd@aol.com)
25. 09:41 PM - Re: Hello! (Rcaprd@AOL.COM)
26. 09:58 PM - Re: Hello! (Stephen!)
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Supplemental Plan Packages offered ... |
Hi Fellow Piet Builders,
There has been a problem with my web site link, this one will get you there.
I do not offer anymore, due to copying and sharing violations, of my Plan packages
in CD or E-mail. Only the Hard copy print packages are available.
Soon to come: late 2005 a 3D modeling plan package of all my supplemental packages.
Also a full set of Pietenpol plans with all parts in 3D model. You will
be able to view every detail of her in any view and from any angle!
( Reason For Edit: Re-did link, Sorry for the inconvenience. )
Blue skies and sunshine,
Keri-Ann Price
Visit my web site: http://www.geocities.com/keriannprice/Pietenpol_Plan_Packages.html
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Anybody out there using heel brakes with a rudder bar? If so, are they
standard "Cub style" Scott heel brakes/masters?
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Next TACO meeting to honor Steve Ruse |
I'd like to know what Sterling Brook's email address is. Has changed it? I've had
it in my address book but wasn't able to reach him. Can anyone enlighten me?
...Thanks.....Carl Vought
----- Original Message -----
From: Rcaprd@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Next TACO meeting to honor Steve Ruse
In a message dated 6/30/2005 9:14:49 AM Central Standard Time, steve@wotelectronics.com
writes:
Hey guys,
I'd still like to get together soon if you guys can make it. Any
thoughts on a
destination or date? Somewhere between San Antonio and Dallas would be great
for me. The last weekend in July is out for me, I'll be at Oshkosh.
Steve Ruse
N6383J - KFTW
Ditto for me !! I'm holding back a couple days vacation for this one !!
Chuck Gantzer
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Try this ..... Plan Packages. |
Hi Piet Builders,
Seems " YaHoo " does not like the link posted here when you click on it, something
about linking from this server. It works for me if I " Copy and Paste " the
link into my browsers menu, then click go.
Sorry again for all this trouble ..... will be updating the site to a new web page
late this 2005 with 3D models of the Pietenpol.
Will keep you posted.
Blue skies and sunshine,
Keri-Ann
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <jphillip@alarismed.com>
Hi Oscar,
I have heel brakes with the rudder bar on my Pietenpol. I tried to use
the Scott master cylinders like a Cub has, but they would not fit under
the rudder bar. This may not be a problem as I think the rudder bar
feels too low and have actually added extensions to mine to get it up
where a pedal would be. You caould probably raise the rudder bar with
no problems.
I used Matco master cylinders with a separate fluid reservoir. Works
fine. If you like I can send you some pictures.
Jack Phillips
Trying to get the 25 hours flown off so I can fly NX899JP to Brodhead
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
Anybody out there using heel brakes with a rudder bar? If so, are they
standard "Cub style" Scott heel brakes/masters?
Oscar Zuniga
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Oscar,
I fabricated my heel actuators that work cables down to go kart drum brakes.
They are strong enough to hold for run-up and to slow the plane without fear
of nose-over. I'm very satisfied how they came out and function.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: brakes
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Anybody out there using heel brakes with a rudder bar? If so, are they
> standard "Cub style" Scott heel brakes/masters?
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
Has anyone out there ever tried the disc type brake setups from the front
axles of 2 wheel drive ATV's? Old timers disease, can't remember if I asked
this question before.
Gordon Bowen
N-1033B
----- Original Message -----
From: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: brakes
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
>
> Oscar,
> I fabricated my heel actuators that work cables down to go kart drum
brakes.
> They are strong enough to hold for run-up and to slow the plane without
fear
> of nose-over. I'm very satisfied how they came out and function.
> walt evans
> NX140DL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:18 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: brakes
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Anybody out there using heel brakes with a rudder bar? If so, are they
> > standard "Cub style" Scott heel brakes/masters?
> >
> > Oscar Zuniga
> > San Antonio, TX
> > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 |
This may be of great interest to a couple of you oldtimers out there with pending
Class III medicals. FAA's catch-22--- I've had a Med Class III or better
for 38 years. Went in for renewal of physical two months ago, FAA doctor discovers
irregular heartbeat, trip to cardiac specialist determines atrial fib.,
needing meds for control, seems this is a very common heart problem for guys over
60. I can get Class III back, BUT- FAA now requires yearly expensive nuclear
stress testing and/or Holter montior to keep flying anything and special
variance class III now only good for one year. But- I cannot drop back to a
Sport Pilot lic., which requires no physical exam. Catch 22-----with the Sport
Pilot Lic. one can fly with many many medical problems as long as they don't
debilitate ability to fly, and no medical exam is required. The sport pilot
actually certifies themselves to be medically qualified. But once you're in
the FAA system for any medical reason, you cannot fly anything including planes
that meet the sport pilot lic requirements, unless the FAA certifies you're
medically ok, and they take their sweet time about it with mountains of medical
records you supply from your heart doc, at a very high cost to you. Sofar
I'm out of pocket for medical about $5K, this about 1/3 of what my insurance
cos. out., all because of something that can be controlled with medication, identified
by a simple EKG but due to FAA's list of required medical tests is now
out of control.
So here's a tip of you older guys with any FAA medical class- go to your regular
doctor before you go to the FAA doctor (just about anybody can have problems
in a McD culinary world, maybe a couple clogged arteries). If something abnormal
pops up, let your FAA medical class expire, fergetaboutit. Drop back
to the sport pilot rating, you automatically have one due to your Private ticket
and keep yourself flying. If you get the FAA medical folks involved, it's
gonna be expensive and at min. 6 months hassle to get med. class back, meanwhile
grounded.
Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
Cozy IV N64CY
Osprey II N64SY
Pietenpol N-1033B
" But such is the constitution of my mind I cannot avoid forming an opinion", John
Adams
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 |
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark <aerialphotos@dp.net>
Gordon Bowen wrote:
> This may be of great interest to a couple of you oldtimers out there
> with pending Class III medicals. FAA's catch-22--- I've had a Med
> Class III or better for 38 years. Went in for renewal of physical two
> months ago, FAA doctor discovers irregular heartbeat, trip to cardiac
> specialist determines atrial fib., needing meds for control, seems
> this is a very common heart problem for guys over 60. I can get Class
> III back, BUT- FAA now requires yearly expensive nuclear stress
> testing and/or Holter montior to keep flying anything and special
> variance class III now only good for one year. But- I cannot drop
> back to a Sport Pilot lic., which requires no physical exam. Catch
> 22-----with the Sport Pilot Lic. one can fly with many many medical
> problems as long as they don't debilitate ability to fly, and no
> medical exam is required. The sport pilot actually certifies
> themselves to be medically qualified. But once you're in the FAA
> system for any medical reason, you cannot fly anything including
> planes that meet the sport pilot lic requirements, unless the FAA
> certifies you're medically ok, and they take their sweet time about it
> with mountains of medical records you supply from your heart doc, at a
> very high cost to you. Sofar I'm out of pocket for medical about $5K,
> this about 1/3 of what my insurance cos. out., all because of
> something that can be controlled with medication, identified by a
> simple EKG but due to FAA's list of required medical tests is now out
> of control.
>
> So here's a tip of you older guys with any FAA medical class- go to
> your regular doctor before you go to the FAA doctor (just about
> anybody can have problems in a McD culinary world, maybe a
> couple clogged arteries). If something abnormal pops up, let your
> FAA medical class expire, fergetaboutit. Drop back to the sport
> pilot rating, you automatically have one due to your Private ticket
> and keep yourself flying. If you get the FAA medical folks involved,
> it's gonna be expensive and at min. 6 months hassle to get med. class
> back, meanwhile grounded.
> Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
> Cozy IV N64CY
> Osprey II N64SY
> Pietenpol N-1033B
> " But such is the constitution of my mind I cannot avoid forming an
> opinion", John Adams
Actually there is one other option you might want to consider. You have
not been denied. What you can do is make a request to be considered for
the Sport Pilot and the FAA can review the case individually and they
already have the data. They may give you a one time ok for LSA and then
allow you on your way, but I would recommend talking with AOPA medical
certification division and your AME. At 5K a year to keep it, I feel
your pain.
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 |
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
Gordon,
You might want to get the EAA involved. At Sun-N-Fun I sat in on a
seminar on the new sport pilot rules and they explained it a little
different. The way I understand it, after you have been denied you are
ineligible for sport pilot unless you can get your class III reissued.
This can be done after a-fib but it does involve jumping through the
hoops you mentioned. Meds have to be on the approved list, *the
arrhythmia has to be corrected*, etc. You didn't mention if your a-fib
was just for a few hours, or if it is a chronic condition. I believe
you have to do a stress test, and wear a holter monitor for a few days.
You can chase down all the rules for a-fib on the FAA website. The way
it was explained, after you get this special issuance one time you are
good for sport pilot even if you let it expire. In other words as long
as you get back to the point where you are a legal private pilot, and
can still look yourself in the mirror, at your wife and family and say
you are "safe to fly today" you are legal.
I have had two incidences of a-fib myself (the first time I was only
46). Its been two years since the last one. My class III expired 12
years ago and I haven't flown in quite some time. I believe it will be
3 more years before my Piet is finished, so I'm just going to hope my
a-fib doesn't return. The FAA states that if you are a-fib free for 5
years you are in the clear (I got this from their website). I'd really
prefer to get my class III back.
Hope this helps. The EAA has special staff to help you through stuff
like this, so I'd really recommend contacting them. I've studied atrial
fibrillation quite a bit so if you have any questions e-mail me off list
Ben Charvet PharmD
(even pharmacists get sick!)
bcharvet@bellsouth.net
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22
> Done a good bit of research since the atria fib problem showed up the last
> phyiscal. The FAA medical examiner I use does only flight phyiscals in
> Anchorage, was formerly Delta's flight medical doctor, she wants to help.
> The FAA has an info flyer they handed out at the Alaskan Airmen Show a
> couple months ago, re a-fib, apparently very common problem. I'm jumpin'
> thru their complete list of test, all these tests appear to be redundant,
> they're all expense and only available to me in Anchorage. You're right
> about: a) you gotta get the class III med. variance back in good standing
> before you fly anything, you're simply grounded. b) those with a sport
> pilots lic, can fly unless they "know" of some medical reason they should
> not fly, that little rule is hidden in the FAR's someplace else.
According
> to this FAR, even if a pilot has a valid medical, if they "know" of some
> medical reason they shouldn't be flying they must ground themselves.
A-fib
> is mostly corrected by med, or a pacemaker or ablation, if you have any of
> the intrusive medical corrections done, you're grounded for min. 6 months,
> and you have to redo the expense list of test and then petition the FAA
> medical folks in OK for a medical special variance. Your class III now
must
> be recked every year, every two years, redoing some portion of these
> expensive tests each year, getting a special variance each and every year.
> Heart Specialist who's an avid flyer, wants to help best he can, tells me
> they simply don't know what causes A-fib, it just shows up sometimes in
some
> random number of people. Meds, control but don't fix. Problem is with
> FAA's Catch 22 rules- it simply doesn't make any sense that anyone with a
> driver's lic, some knowledge of flying, and an instructor's endorsement
can
> jump in a plane that meets the sport plane rules and away they go. The
> private ticket with 38 years of good Class III's or higher, is still
> absolutely grounded should any FAA medical examiner find anything wrong.
> The hoops the FAA medical people in Oklahoma make you jump thru the rest
of
> your flying career don't make sense, you jump thru these test each year,
if
> you want the class III medical. Had I have gone to my private doctor,
found
> the a-fib, taken the meds to control, I could have simply let my Class III
> end, and could have been not grounded but flying any plane that meets the
> sport plane rules, this is a classic gov't Catch-22. Recommend to any of
> you guys, go to you private doctor for cursory check-up before going into
> the FAA Medical Examiner. The FAA Med. Examiner must report you to the
FAA
> in OK, should they find anything wrong. Being on meds and having the
a-fib
> under control is no reason to ground yourself, if you're willing to only
> sport fly.
> Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
> Cozy IV N64CY
> Osprey II N64SY
> Pietenpol N-1033B
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
I am using Hager brakes, axels, and master cyls. from AS&S. Thse have
their origion in go-carts or atv"s. I'm using their heel actuated brake
cylinders. which set below the rudder bar. I haven't mounted them yet,
so I can't tell you howthey feel. (or work) Wheels are aluminum Dougless
wheels as used on 4-wheelers. Entire cub type landing gear minus bungees
is 48 lbs. Leon S. in Kansas
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Try here.
http://www.gopowersports.com/
for drum brakes
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: brakes
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Anybody out there using heel brakes with a rudder bar? If so, are they
> standard "Cub style" Scott heel brakes/masters?
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stephen!" <pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com>
Just signed up for this list and wanted to say "Hi". I probably
won't be posting a whole lot to the list because I am still a while away
from starting a build but I am real interested in the Pietenpol and plan
to lurk in the shadows and absorb as much knowledge as I can while I'm
here...
-Stephen!
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http://imagesdesavions.com
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
That is true Gordon. I also highly recommend going to
a family physician BEFORE the flight physical. But,
with the Sport lic., a Class III medical isn't
necessary. But if something does come up that would
ground you on the flight physical, you can just avoid
the flight physical altogether and fly on the Sport
lic. Thank goodness for that safety net. Everything
Gordon said is true and should be considered before
you become an FAA casualty.
Doc
--- Gordon Bowen <gbowen@ptialaska.net> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gordon Bowen"
> <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport Pilot Lic,
> Medical Catch-22
>
>
> > Done a good bit of research since the atria fib
> problem showed up the last
> > phyiscal. The FAA medical examiner I use does
> only flight phyiscals in
> > Anchorage, was formerly Delta's flight medical
> doctor, she wants to help.
> > The FAA has an info flyer they handed out at the
> Alaskan Airmen Show a
> > couple months ago, re a-fib, apparently very
> common problem. I'm jumpin'
> > thru their complete list of test, all these tests
> appear to be redundant,
> > they're all expense and only available to me in
> Anchorage. You're right
> > about: a) you gotta get the class III med.
> variance back in good standing
> > before you fly anything, you're simply grounded.
> b) those with a sport
> > pilots lic, can fly unless they "know" of some
> medical reason they should
> > not fly, that little rule is hidden in the FAR's
> someplace else.
> According
> > to this FAR, even if a pilot has a valid medical,
> if they "know" of some
> > medical reason they shouldn't be flying they must
> ground themselves.
> A-fib
> > is mostly corrected by med, or a pacemaker or
> ablation, if you have any of
> > the intrusive medical corrections done, you're
> grounded for min. 6 months,
> > and you have to redo the expense list of test and
> then petition the FAA
> > medical folks in OK for a medical special
> variance. Your class III now
> must
> > be recked every year, every two years, redoing
> some portion of these
> > expensive tests each year, getting a special
> variance each and every year.
> > Heart Specialist who's an avid flyer, wants to
> help best he can, tells me
> > they simply don't know what causes A-fib, it just
> shows up sometimes in
> some
> > random number of people. Meds, control but don't
> fix. Problem is with
> > FAA's Catch 22 rules- it simply doesn't make any
> sense that anyone with a
> > driver's lic, some knowledge of flying, and an
> instructor's endorsement
> can
> > jump in a plane that meets the sport plane rules
> and away they go. The
> > private ticket with 38 years of good Class III's
> or higher, is still
> > absolutely grounded should any FAA medical
> examiner find anything wrong.
> > The hoops the FAA medical people in Oklahoma make
> you jump thru the rest
> of
> > your flying career don't make sense, you jump thru
> these test each year,
> if
> > you want the class III medical. Had I have gone
> to my private doctor,
> found
> > the a-fib, taken the meds to control, I could have
> simply let my Class III
> > end, and could have been not grounded but flying
> any plane that meets the
> > sport plane rules, this is a classic gov't
> Catch-22. Recommend to any of
> > you guys, go to you private doctor for cursory
> check-up before going into
> > the FAA Medical Examiner. The FAA Med. Examiner
> must report you to the
> FAA
> > in OK, should they find anything wrong. Being on
> meds and having the
> a-fib
> > under control is no reason to ground yourself, if
> you're willing to only
> > sport fly.
> > Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
> > Cozy IV N64CY
> > Osprey II N64SY
> > Pietenpol N-1033B
> >
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As a wise ole sarg once told us recruits, 1 Never volunteer anything or for
anything 2 He who asks questions gets answers and usually not the answers it
wants.
An old soldier in Louisiana
Die Fidelen Achtziger
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Welcome Stephen. The Piet is a very nice and easy to
build plane. You have made a good choice with the
Piet. Why not start building and work at your own
pace? There is no time limit on when the project gets
finished. You will find the construction fun and
relaxing. You are rewarded with each componet you
build and you will feel good about what you are doing.
Either way, have fun and best wishes.
Doc
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> am still a while away
> from starting a build but I am real interested in
> the Pietenpol and plan
> to lurk in the shadows and absorb as much knowledge
> as I can while I'm
> here...
>
> -Stephen!
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
I too, am an old soldier in Arkansas and those perals
are ever so true. An adult person is quite capable of
deciding whether he is safe to fly or not. If he
chooses to fly when he isn't feeling well, he knows he
is asking for trouble. The Sport lic. is the most
common sense thing ever to come from the FAA. Just
don't awake a sleeping dragon and volenteer anything
that isn't absolutely necessary.
Doc
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--- Isablcorky@aol.com wrote:
> As a wise ole sarg once told us recruits, 1 Never
> volunteer anything or for
> anything 2 He who asks questions gets answers and
> usually not the answers it
> wants.
> An old soldier in Louisiana
> Die Fidelen Achtziger
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
Stephen,
Welcome...........of all the homebuilts you could be considering and groups
you could be lurking, you made the best choice. The Pietenpol design lends
itself to the be best homebuilt for ease of building and ease of adapting
where needed.
Gordon Bowen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen!" <pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hello!
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stephen!"
<pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com>
>
>
> Just signed up for this list and wanted to say "Hi". I probably
> won't be posting a whole lot to the list because I am still a while away
> from starting a build but I am real interested in the Pietenpol and plan
> to lurk in the shadows and absorb as much knowledge as I can while I'm
> here...
>
> -Stephen!
>
> --
> IBA# 11465
> http://imagesdesavions.com
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stephen!" <pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com>
Galen Hutcheson wrote:
> Welcome Stephen.
Thank you...
> The Piet is a very nice and easy to build plane.
After reading the write-up on avweb I can see that...
> Why not start building and work at your own pace?
Oh, soooo many reasons...
I'm in Hawaii. Will be leaving early next year. I'm lucky to have a
carport, no such thing as a garage or shop in my life now. No place to
put the parts, no time to do much of anything right now...
> There is no time limit on when the project gets
> finished.
*that's* a good thing... When I do start it'll have to compete with all
of my other hobbies... I'm thinking it'll make a good winter-time
project when my bike is trapped behind a snowdrift...
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stephen!" <pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com>
Gordon Bowen wrote:
> itself to the be best homebuilt for ease of building and ease of adapting
> where needed.
"adapting"... That, I like...
Where is the best place to learn about the process of building outside
of the actual building process its self? Where can I find an easy to
understand, comprehensive list (perhaps?) of what I need to do to get
this thing off the ground, so to speak. I'm sure it cannot be as simple
as just gettin' 'er done and jumping in for a flight. For example, are
there progressive FAA inspections that need to be done and such?
I am a pilot, I am a craftsman, I have yet to combine the two and know
not where to start...
Have I made any sense in my questions or have I just confused you?
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stephen!" <pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com>
Gordon Bowen wrote:
> So here's a tip of you older guys with any FAA medical class
Sorry to hear about your medical problems, Gordon. There's a lot of guy
around here that had to give up power all together and go glider...
> Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
Hey... Does Tom Bodette still do his radio show from up there? I
haven't heard him on the air for a good number of years now.
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In a message dated 7/1/2005 8:19:25 AM Central Standard Time,
taildrags@hotmail.com writes:
Anybody out there using heel brakes with a rudder bar? If so, are they
standard "Cub style" Scott heel brakes/masters?
Oscar,
I built my heel brakes that actuate Mooney master cylinders, and a remote
master cylinder. They are compact, work very well, and are easy to get used to.
I have some good detail photo's of my set up, if you would like me to e-mail
them directly to you. There is a lot of 'Stuff' going on under my front
cockpit seat, and these pictures really explain a lot !!
Chuck G.
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Stephen, welcome to the group !!
In a message dated 7/1/2005 10:33:27 PM Central Standard Time,
pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com writes:
Where is the best place to learn about the process of building outside
of the actual building process its self?
Join the EAA, and a local chapter, stay with this Pietenpol List, and
definatelly Go To Brodhead !!
Where can I find an easy to understand, comprehensive list (perhaps?) of what
I need to do to get this thing off the ground, so to speak.
Check the archives, listed at the bottom of every e-mail on this list.
I'm sure it cannot be as simple as just gettin' 'er done and jumping in for a
flight. For example, are there progressive FAA inspections that need to be
done and such?
Some years ago, there were progressive inspections required by the FAA...a
'Pre-Cover' inspection comes to mind. The EAA now has Tech Counselors, Flight
Counselors, as well as a lot of other programs, that the FAA stores much faith
in. You should understand, however, that scratch building an airplane from
plans, is a long term project...albiet a Very Rewarding one !! I suggest you
buy a set of plans from Donald Pietenpol, and get started on the ribs. Doesn't
take up any more room than a coffee table.
Chuck Gantzer
NX770CG
Pietenpol's Forever !!
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stephen!" <pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com>
Rcaprd@aol.com wrote:
> Stephen, welcome to the group !!
Thank you....
> Join the EAA, and a local chapter, stay with this Pietenpol List, and
> definatelly Go To Brodhead !!
Show you how green I am to things of building... "Brodhead"?
> Check the archives, listed at the bottom of every e-mail on this list.
Will do.
> Some years ago, there were progressive inspections required by the
> FAA..a 'Pre-Cover' inspection comes to mind. The EAA now has Tech
> Counsel=. ors, Flight Counselors, as well as a lot of other programs,
> that the FAA stores much faith in.
Do *these* people have to do inspections?
> You should understand, however, that scratch building an airplane from
> plans, is a long term project...albiet a Very Rewarding one !!
I assure you, I understand that. I am retiring from the military soon
and will need something to keep my idle hands busy. I've built an R/C
from scratch (I "adopted" a kit that someone started and tired of
quickly) and even though it's a *big* difference I understand it's not
an overnight process...
> I suggest you buy a set of plans from Donald Pietenpol, and get
> started on the ribs. Doesn't take up any more room than a coffee
> table.
I don't even have *that* much room right now... Nowhere to put a
steamer, no where to put the jig, no where to store the finished ribs...
Besides, I don't want to have to worry about them surviving my HHG
shipment next spring...
Thanks for the advice...
-Stephen!
Sheesh, for someone who's supposed to be lurking I've sure been yakking
a lot, eh? ;)
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