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1. 12:34 PM - Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 (Rick Holland)
2. 02:01 PM - Pietenpol on film (Bill Church)
3. 02:21 PM - Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 ()
4. 02:48 PM - Piet flight simulator (Textor, Jack)
5. 05:43 PM - Re: Piet flight simulator (Ben Charvet)
6. 05:43 PM - Re: Piet flight simulator (Jim Vydra)
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 |
There are actually two other options for medical denied/revoked pilots,
1) Real ultralight - like this - http://www.cgsaviation.com/hawkultra.htm
2) Motorglider, like this - http://www.sonex-ltd.com/xenos.html
(there are some plans-built motorgliders, wondering if anyone has ever
attempted to make a Piet motorglider?)
A motorglider is defined as an aircraft that is under 1874 pounds gross, two
seat max,
and a span loading (gross weight divided by wingspan squared) no more than
0.62 lb./sq. ft.
So a Piet has a span loading of about 1100/29 * 29 1.308. So if you just
increased the wingspan to 42 ft. you would have a motorglider. (Highly
unrecommended).
Rick H.
On 7/1/05, Stephen! <pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com> wrote:
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> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stephen!" <
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> Gordon Bowen wrote:
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> > So here's a tip of you older guys with any FAA medical class
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> Sorry to hear about your medical problems, Gordon. There's a lot of guy
> around here that had to give up power all together and go glider...
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> > Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
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> Hey... Does Tom Bodette still do his radio show from up there? I
> haven't heard him on the air for a good number of years now.
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Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Pietenpol on film |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>
Was at the video store on the weekend looking for something to watch, and
found a DVD with an illustration on the cover that looked like a Pietenpol
in flight. So I rented it. As a film it wasn't great. Even the flying scenes
were kind of hokey (digitally animated). The main character is an aviator
who crashes in some unidentified southern land where (conveniently) everyone
speaks English. He is flying what appears to be a Stampe biplane. When they
rebuild the plane from the salvaged parts, suddenly the Stampe parts become
a Pietenpol. The whole plane is covered with sewing fabric, so it looks
pretty goofy, but it's definitely a Piet. Oh, they also mount a huge round
copper fuel tank on top of the wing. There's only five or ten minutes of
Pietenpol in the whole film. The name of the film is "Facing Fear" in
Canadian release, but it's named "The Flight" in the U.S.
Here's a link to the trailer...
http://www.videodetective.com/trailer-preview.asp?publishedID=738563 .
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22 |
Dale and I just tried to register ours as a motorglider. We were not successful.
We did a thorough search of the regs and could find no reason that would
prohibit registering an experimental as a motorglider.
All of the regs that discussed span loading are for certified aircraft, not experimentals.
Our initial airworthiness application that was sent to OKC was accepted and NX18235
was listed in the FAA database as a "Glider, Self-launching"
All of the paperwork was approved by the local MIDO and sent on to the AB-DAR.
He denied the application based on an obscure FAA order, 8130.2-F ???, that says
experimentals must meet the same criteria as certified aircraft.
We then had to submit an amendment to our application changing it from a "Glider"
to
an "Airplane, Single engine, Land".
This added several months to our ordeal.
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport Pilot Lic, Medical Catch-22
There are actually two other options for medical denied/revoked pilots,
1) Real ultralight - like this - http://www.cgsaviation.com/hawkultra.htm
2) Motorglider, like this - http://www.sonex-ltd.com/xenos.html
(there are some plans-built motorgliders, wondering if anyone has ever attempted
to make a Piet motorglider?)
A motorglider is defined as an aircraft that is under 1874 pounds gross, two
seat max,
and a span loading (gross weight divided by wingspan squared) no more than 0.62
lb./sq. ft.
So a Piet has a span loading of about 1100/29 * 29 1.308. So if you just increased
the wingspan to 42 ft. you would have a motorglider. (Highly unrecommended).
Rick H.
On 7/1/05, Stephen! <pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stephen!" <pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com>
Gordon Bowen wrote:
> So here's a tip of you older guys with any FAA medical class
Sorry to hear about your medical problems, Gordon. There's a lot of guy
around here that had to give up power all together and go glider...
> Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
Hey... Does Tom Bodette still do his radio show from up there? I
haven't heard him on the air for a good number of years now.
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IBA# 11465
http://imagesde
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Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Piet flight simulator |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Textor, Jack" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
Hi all,
I downloaded the Piet from www.theoldhangar.com. I'm using FS2002. I'm having trouble making it work. It comes up when I select it, then is idling on the runway, then stops. None of the controls seem to work. If anyone can assist it would be great.
Jack Textor
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| Subject: | Re: Piet flight simulator |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
I believe this is set up for FS2004. I've been flying all over with it
and had no problems installing it. FS2004 is a great program and
probably worth upgrading to. I'm waiting to hear if anybody has
compared the FS2004 Piet to flying a real one.
Ben
Textor, Jack wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Textor, Jack" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
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>I downloaded the Piet from www.theoldhangar.com. I'm using FS2002. I'm having trouble making it work. It comes up when I select it, then is idling on the runway, then stops. None of the controls seem to work. If anyone can assist it would be great.
>Jack Textor
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| Subject: | Re: Piet flight simulator |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Vydra <jvydra@sbcglobal.net>
FS is a toy program...I worked on flight sims in the
navy....fly2k is much better..but hard to find
--- "Textor, Jack" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Textor, Jack"
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> Hi all,
> I downloaded the Piet from www.theoldhangar.com.
> I'm using FS2002. I'm having trouble making it
> work. It comes up when I select it, then is idling
> on the runway, then stops. None of the controls
> seem to work. If anyone can assist it would be
> great.
> Jack Textor
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