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1. 04:15 AM - Re: Cont. A-65 runup (Phillips, Jack)
2. 06:13 AM - Spruce wanted (Textor, Jack)
3. 07:28 AM - Re: Spruce wanted (Dave and Connie)
4. 09:16 AM - Re: Cont. A-65 runup (Michael Conkling)
5. 09:25 AM - A-65 exhaust studs (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 09:29 AM - Re: Cont. A-65 runup (harvey.rule@bell.ca)
7. 09:30 AM - rudder trim (Oscar Zuniga)
8. 09:30 AM - Re: Spruce wanted (Textor, Jack)
9. 12:19 PM - Pietenpol Aircamper project. (Carl Vought)
10. 12:35 PM - Re: Pietenpol Aircamper project. (Robert Gow)
11. 01:33 PM - Re: Pietenpol Aircamper project. (Textor, Jack)
12. 01:48 PM - Re: Pietenpol Aircamper project. (Carl Vought)
13. 01:58 PM - Re: Pietenpol Aircamper project. (Robert Gow)
14. 03:25 PM - Re: Hello! (Gene Rambo)
15. 06:57 PM - Re: Spruce wanted (Jake Crause)
16. 08:54 PM - Re: covering (Javier Cruz)
17. 09:17 PM - Re: Cont. A-65 runup & flight (Rcaprd@aol.com)
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Subject: | Cont. A-65 runup |
Chuck if you are getting 85 mph in cruise we're going to have a hard
time flying formation between Brodhead and Oshkosh. My cruise is about
65 to 70 mph, verified with another airplane's ASI. I'll try to verify
with GPS this weekend, if Cindy and Dennis allow it.
Jack Phillips
Puttin' the time in on NX899JP so I can fly it to Brodhead in 2 weeks
I have a Cont A 65, with my home built 72 X 42 prop, and I get about
1900 RPM, full power static run up (in the chalks), or on take off
roll. At full power level flight, when the prop unloads, I see 2150 RPM
indicated. Like I said on a previous post, my tach reads 100 RPM too
low, so those numbers are actually 2000 and 2250 respectively. The ASI
indicates about 72 to 75 MPH, but it also reads about 10 MPH too low, so
I'm doing somewhere close to 85 MPH, on a full power level flight run. I
pull power for cruise flight between 1800 and 1900 RPM, and indicate
about 65 MPH.. I think fairing the gear legs helped a little. The
A65's rated power is 2300 RPM, so I consider mine to be a cruise prop.
I think I'm well with acceptable range.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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Morning all,
Looking for a partial or un-started Piet project. I just sold my RV8
project and now that I have the room it's time to get going on the Piet.
I've completed 10 ribs and plan to buy the spruce at McCormick's when I
go to Brodhead and OSH if I don't find a project to buy before then.
Looking forward to seeing you all at Brodhead. Thanks!
Jack Textor
Des Moines
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Subject: | Re: Spruce wanted |
resource.com>
It's a long ride but I have a Western Aircraft Supply spruce kit sitting in
my hangar at 01G. That is Perry-Warsaw airport just outside of Warsaw,
NY. $1100 as is where is. I built a few ribs and just don't have the time.
Dave
At 09:12 AM 7/7/2005, you wrote:
>Morning all,
>Looking for a partial or un-started Piet project. I just sold my RV8
>project and now that I have the room it's time to get going on the
>Piet. I've completed 10 ribs and plan to buy the spruce at McCormick's
>when I go to Brodhead and OSH if I don't find a project to buy before
>then. Looking forward to seeing you all at Brodhead. Thanks!
>Jack Textor
>Des Moines
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>
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Subject: | Re: Cont. A-65 runup |
No, Jack, you just get to fly "lead" -- make Chuck do all the work!! ;-)
Mike C.
Pretty Prairie, KS
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From: Phillips, Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 6:15 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cont. A-65 runup
Chuck if you are getting 85 mph in cruise we're going to have a hard time
flying formation between Brodhead and Oshkosh. My cruise is about 65 to 70
mph, verified with another airplane's ASI. I'll try to verify with GPS this
weekend, if Cindy and Dennis allow it.
Jack Phillips
Puttin' the time in on NX899JP so I can fly it to Brodhead in 2 weeks
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Subject: | A-65 exhaust studs |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Thanks to all who offered tips on the exhaust stacks. I was looking at the
different gaskets at the Sacramento Sky Ranch website and noted that there
are two different types, but Corky had the "blow proof" ones on it
originally so that's what I'm going with (not the plain flat ones). I have
new brass nuts to go on the studs and wanted to get the torque correct. I
will also be applying VHT flat white to the stacks but NOT on the part that
is inside the heat muff... my concern is to avoid adding any insulation that
may reduce the heat transfer for carb heat. I realize that leaves the part
inside the muff vulnerable to corrosion and will require inspection during
annual, but after the carb ice incident I'd rather have all the temperature
rise I can get and deal with the corrosion issue as one more inspection
item.
One other item of interest noted from the torque charts from Continental.
They specify the use of clean 50w. aviation oil on all threads prior to
torqueing and caution that their table values are not for dry torqueing.
They also have some footnotes regarding lube for the spark plugs and a few
other things that are good to know. My thanks to Steve Ruse!
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | Cont. A-65 runup |
FILETIME=[ECFBAF80:01C58310]
You get to watch Chuck try to stay airborne and go crazy,HAHAHA!
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Conkling
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cont. A-65 runup
No, Jack, you just get to fly "lead" -- make Chuck do all the work!! ;-)
Mike C.
Pretty Prairie, KS
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From: Phillips, Jack <mailto:jphillip@alarismed.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 6:15 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cont. A-65 runup
Chuck if you are getting 85 mph in cruise we're going to have a
hard time flying formation between Brodhead and Oshkosh. My cruise is
about 65 to 70 mph, verified with another airplane's ASI. I'll try to
verify with GPS this weekend, if Cindy and Dennis allow it.
Jack Phillips
Puttin' the time in on NX899JP so I can fly it to Brodhead in 2
weeks
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Aren't you dismayed when you see simple and great hints and ideas, and
wonder "why didn't I think of that?" Well, I take no credit for this one
but it's stone-simple and I plan to implement it as soon as I get 41CC
sorted out. Some of you have reported needing to hold right rudder at times
and wishing you had rudder trim. From the KRNet, the following was posted
by Mark Langford:
>Troy Petteway does his trim with a cable and a spring connected to the
>rudder pedal.
>That works great with an 0-200, because it pulls on the left pedal so the
>control can be
>fastened to the fuselage wall, but for VWs and Corvairs it would have to
>be the
>right pedal, so it needs to be panel mounted. [because KRs have
>side-by-side seating... not
a factor in a Piet where the fuselage wall is available on either side.
-OZ]
>He drilled a hole in his panel with a little slot at the bottom of the
>hole, and uses one of
>those little "ball chains" like you see on old ceramic light fixtures. He
>has certain balls marked
>for climb and cruise, and pulls the chain out to the right color and drops
>it in the slot to set it. That works too, is adjustable for different
>flight regimes, and leaves no [rudder trim] tab on
>the outside [of the airplane].
And for you "antique look" aficionados, you could even use brass beaded
chain ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Thanks for your response Dave. That's what I'm looking for, but just
too far away. Maybe somebody else from the list will get in touch.
Jack Textor
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave and
Connie
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Spruce wanted
It's a long ride but I have a Western Aircraft Supply spruce kit sitting
in my hangar at 01G. That is Perry-Warsaw airport just outside of
Warsaw, NY. $1100 as is where is. I built a few ribs and just don't
have the time.
Dave
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Subject: | Pietenpol Aircamper project. |
In response to Jack Textor:
I have bought two projects in the last couple of years. It's finally sunk into
my thick skull that at my age I cannot possibly finish both. That and storage
costs have me in a mood for a quick sale. The one that's available is fairly complete:
Wings, tail feathers, fuselage all covered and painted, split LG ready
for prime and color. If interested, I'll send details. As is, where is, under
$5k. Carl Vought, Huntsville Alabama.
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Subject: | Pietenpol Aircamper project. |
Carl, Jack
If Jack's not interested I'd be interested n looking.
Bob
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Carl Vought
Sent: July 7, 2005 2:19 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aircamper project.
In response to Jack Textor:
I have bought two projects in the last couple of years. It's finally sunk
into my thick skull that at my age I cannot possibly finish both. That and
storage costs have me in a mood for a quick sale. The one that's available
is fairly complete: Wings, tail feathers, fuselage all covered and painted,
split LG ready for prime and color. If interested, I'll send details. As
is, where is, under $5k. Carl Vought, Huntsville Alabama.
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Subject: | Pietenpol Aircamper project. |
Carl and Robert,
Sounds like a good deal but to far along for what I'm looking for.
Thank you!
Jack
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Gow
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aircamper project.
Carl, Jack
If Jack's not interested I'd be interested n looking.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Carl
Vought
Sent: July 7, 2005 2:19 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aircamper project.
In response to Jack Textor:
I have bought two projects in the last couple of years. It's
finally sunk into my thick skull that at my age I cannot possibly finish
both. That and storage costs have me in a mood for a quick sale. The one
that's available is fairly complete: Wings, tail feathers, fuselage all
covered and painted, split LG ready for prime and color. If interested,
I'll send details. As is, where is, under $5k. Carl Vought, Huntsville
Alabama.
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Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Aircamper project. |
To Robert Gow...I have a detailed description of the parts in the form of an attachment.
It's written in Wordpro and I think I have to save it in another format
for it to go through. I'll work on that and let you know. Where are you located?...Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Gow
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aircamper project.
Carl, Jack
If Jack's not interested I'd be interested n looking.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Carl Vought
Sent: July 7, 2005 2:19 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aircamper project.
In response to Jack Textor:
I have bought two projects in the last couple of years. It's finally sunk into
my thick skull that at my age I cannot possibly finish both. That and storage
costs have me in a mood for a quick sale. The one that's available is fairly
complete: Wings, tail feathers, fuselage all covered and painted, split LG
ready for prime and color. If interested, I'll send details. As is, where is,
under $5k. Carl Vought, Huntsville Alabama.
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Subject: | Pietenpol Aircamper project. |
I'm in Midland Ontario. There are some procedures to follow when importing
a homebuilt project into Canada but it's manageable. I've had the plans
since I was 15. No time :-) But I did find time to build a couple of
houses.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Carl Vought
Sent: July 7, 2005 3:48 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aircamper project.
To Robert Gow...I have a detailed description of the parts in the form of
an attachment. It's written in Wordpro and I think I have to save it in
another format for it to go through. I'll work on that and let you know.
Where are you located?...Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Gow
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aircamper project.
Carl, Jack
If Jack's not interested I'd be interested n looking.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Carl Vought
Sent: July 7, 2005 2:19 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aircamper project.
In response to Jack Textor:
I have bought two projects in the last couple of years. It's finally
sunk into my thick skull that at my age I cannot possibly finish both. That
and storage costs have me in a mood for a quick sale. The one that's
available is fairly complete: Wings, tail feathers, fuselage all covered and
painted, split LG ready for prime and color. If interested, I'll send
details. As is, where is, under $5k. Carl Vought, Huntsville Alabama.
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is anyone on this site in or around Denver?? I'm in town for a couple of days.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Phillips, Jack<mailto:jphillip@alarismed.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Hello!
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <jphillip@alarismed.com<mailto:jphillip@alarismed.com>>
As Walt Evans said, the best books for learning how to build an airplane
are the 4 Tony Bingelis books: The Sportplane Builder, Sportplane
Construction Techniques, Firewall Forward, and Tony Bingelis on Engines.
In addition, I learned a lot from the EAA Aircraft Welding book, and
their Aircraft Woodworking book.
If not an EAA member, by all means join. If there is a local chapter
that you can visit, even better, but you can get a lot of benefit from
belonging to the national organization. Go on their website,
www.eaa.org<http://www.eaa.org/> and click on the members only section, then go to
"homebuilder's headquarters". There you can find articles from past
issues of Sport Aviation that will answer most of your questions.
As someone else advised, buy the plans and study them before committing
to materials and tools. You can build a Pietenpol with simple hand
tools, but it will be easier if you have a good belt sander, a bandsaw,
a metal cutting bandsaw (that can be slowed down to 80 fpm on the blade
speed for cutting steel) and an oxy-acetylene welding rig.
There are a number of major decisions that need to be made when building
a Pietenpol, including:
Engine type (Ford "A", Corvair, Continental, or other?)
Short or Long fuselage
1-piece or 3-piece wing
Cub-style or straight axle landing gear
Sitka Spruce, Douglas Fir or other wood?
Resorcinol, T-88, Aerolite or other glues?
Tailwheel and brakes, or tailskid and no brakes?
This ain't no stinkin' kitplane where all these decisions are already
made for you and you just have to bolt the assembly together. This is
one of the beauties and the challenges of building a Pietenpol, and why
no two of them are alike.
Good luck!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stephen!"
<pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com<mailto:pietenpol@imagesdesavions.com>>
Gordon Bowen wrote:
> itself to the be best homebuilt for ease of building and ease of
adapting
> where needed.
"adapting"... That, I like...
Where is the best place to learn about the process of building outside
of the actual building process its self? Where can I find an easy to
understand, comprehensive list (perhaps?) of what I need to do to get
this thing off the ground, so to speak. I'm sure it cannot be as simple
as just gettin' 'er done and jumping in for a flight. For example, are
there progressive FAA inspections that need to be done and such?
I am a pilot, I am a craftsman, I have yet to combine the two and know
not where to start...
Have I made any sense in my questions or have I just confused you?
--
m/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>
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Dave,
I'm up here in Croghan, NY and am interested in your Spruce Kit. I'll
email you off list for the details.
Jake Crause
www.homebuiltairplanes.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Textor,
Jack
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Spruce wanted
Thanks for your response Dave. That's what I'm looking for, but just
too far away. Maybe somebody else from the list will get in touch.
Jack Textor
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave and
Connie
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Spruce wanted
It's a long ride but I have a Western Aircraft Supply spruce kit sitting
in my hangar at 01G. That is Perry-Warsaw airport just outside of
Warsaw, NY. $1100 as is where is. I built a few ribs and just don't
have the time.
Dave
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Thanks for your comments
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Subject: | Re: Cont. A-65 runup & flight |
In a message dated 7/7/2005 6:16:48 AM Central Standard Time,
jphillip@alarismed.com writes:
Chuck if you are getting 85 mph in cruise we=E2=80=99re going to have a hard time
flying formation between Brodhead and Oshkosh. My cruise is about 65 to 70=20mph,
verified with another airplane=E2=80=99s ASI.
Jack,
I'm guestimating the 85 mph for my Full Power Level Flight run. My tach
reads low, and my ASI reads low. It will be interesting to compare our cruise
speeds. I think there is a radio frequency that we are allowed to use, for=20air
to air conservasion. For cruise, I pull power back to 1850 rpm, and that puts
me somewhere around 65 mph. Sometimes I like to put put put around, close to
minimum controlable airspeed. I can pull power back to 1650, and maintain
about 45 mph. Saves gas, and do some sight seeing !!
Chuck G.
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