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1. 04:11 AM - Re: Cont. A-65 runup & flight (Phillips, Jack)
2. 05:08 AM - Re: Cont. A-65 runup & flight (Ken)
3. 07:04 AM - Re: Landing gear setup (Rick Holland)
4. 09:58 AM - Advertising on the Pietenpol List... (Matt Dralle)
5. 10:52 AM - Re: Landing gear setup (John Dilatush)
6. 01:14 PM - Re: Cont. A-65 runup & flight (Robert Gow)
7. 01:49 PM - Re: Landing gear setup (Christian Bobka)
8. 01:55 PM - Brodhead . . . (Prange Larry J PSNS)
9. 02:09 PM - Re: Brodhead . . . (Christian Bobka)
10. 02:14 PM - Re: Brodhead . . . (Phillips, Jack)
11. 02:42 PM - Re: Brodhead . . . (Dick Navratil)
12. 03:21 PM - Re: Landing gear setup (Isablcorky@aol.com)
13. 03:22 PM - Re: Brodhead . . . (Christian Bobka)
14. 04:41 PM - EGT Location (Rcaprd@aol.com)
15. 04:59 PM - Re: EGT Location (Christian Bobka)
16. 05:02 PM - More test time (Christian Bobka)
17. 05:03 PM - anydoy spin it? (Christian Bobka)
18. 06:40 PM - A-65 starting snafu (Ted Brousseau)
19. 09:00 PM - Re: Cont. A-65 runup & flight (bike.mike)
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| Subject: | Cont. A-65 runup & flight |
According my 2003 AIM, the frequencies for air - to - air communication
are 122.75 and 122.85. Don't know if they have changed since 2003
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Just about ready for the trip to Brodhead
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Rcaprd@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cont. A-65 runup & flight
In a message dated 7/11/2005 1:23:37 PM Central Standard Time,
jphillip@alarismed.com writes:
Chuck,
In running some tests with a GPS this weekend it appears my Piet
is not as slow as I thought. There was no wond aloft and I was
consistently getting groundspeeds of 66 to 68 knots, regardless of
flight direction. Maybe my cheap Chinese import Airspeed indicators are
calibrated in knots, even though the dial says MPH, 'cause they both
indicate 65. So in reality I'm getting an airspeed of 66 knots, or
about 75 mph. That is cruising at 2150 RPM indicated. A buddy has an
electronic tach - I need to borrow it and verify that my tach is
accurate.
Yes, It should be interesting to compare performance, when we go to
Brodhead.
Does anyone know the frequency set aside for air to air communication ?
Terry B. told me what it was, last summer, but I can't find it.
Chuck G.
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| Subject: | Re: Cont. A-65 runup & flight |
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| Subject: | Re: Landing gear setup |
I am using the long fuselage plans.
On 7/11/05, Christian Bobka <sbobka@charter.net> wrote:
>
> *Rick,*
> **
> *There are three fuselages. Which are you using?*
> **
> *the fuselage that appears in the Flying and Glider Manual. The drawings
> show a wood gear.*
> **
> *the fuselage that is on the plans that DP sells. The drawings show the
> split steel landing gear.*
> **
> *the fuselage that was used for the corvair piets. No gear is shown for
> this fuselage but it is the one most build as it is 7 inches longer or so
> than the early fuselages.*
> **
> *Chris*
> Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2005 8:48 AM
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Landing gear setup
>
> Am starting to plan my landing gear (split gear with the Cub style
> triangle cabane at the top and springs instead of bungees) and after going
> through the archives I think I have an idea how to design this but please
> give me a sanity check. I am using the long fuselage plans.
>
> 1) Whether short of long fuselage, axle should be 2" forward of plans
> location if adding brakes and tail wheel.
>
> The short fuselage plans show the axle 17" behind the firewall, the long
> fuselage plans have the firewall 2" further forward so the standard axle
> location would be 19" back from the firewall. SO with brakes and tail wheel
> the axle should be:
>
> 15" aft of firewall for short fuse
> 17" aft of firewall for long fuse
>
> Correct?
>
> Also since many people increase the front fuse length probably a better
> measurement point would be the center of the front ash cross member. In that
> case the axle position would be:
>
> 5" aft of the center of the front ash cross member for any fuselage.
>
> 2) When I get done with the gear the fuselage should sit on the ground
> with about a 13 degree deck angle (measured on the top longeron), from the
> archive info. So if I install the tailwheel and prop up the front of the
> fuse to a 13 degree angle, place the wheel/tire that I am going to use on
> the floor under the fuse at the correct 2" forward location THAT is the axle
> position that I need to build my gear to correct? I can build a Bill
> Rewey-style jig to hold the axles in that position.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Rick Holland
>
>
--
Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Advertising on the Pietenpol List... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>Time: 07:51:02 AM PST US
>From: "Keri-Ann Price" <keriannprice@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Supplemental Plan Packages for Pietenpol
>AirCamper
>
>Supplemental Plan Packages for Pietenpol AirCamper
>http://www.geocities.com/keriannprice/Pietenpol_Plan_Packages.html
><http://www.geocities.com/keriannprice/Pietenpol_Plan_Packages.html>
Hi Keri-Ann,
A number of people have emailed me regarding your recent advertising
posts on the Pietenpol-List. Here is my official policy regarding
commercial advertising on the Lists:
"Occasional commercial advertising on the List is permissible as long as
the items are related to aircraft construction at some level."
I think that as long as the advertising doesn't start to feel like Spam, most
Listers will welcome the information. However, when the posts start
to just feel like generic advertising ploys, I will generally have to
step in. I realize that you probably made your message terse on
purpose to minimize the impact, which is certainly
appreciated. Again, though, it seems like an impersonal
advertisement and lots of people take exception to that.
Please make your *occasional* plugs more of a personal appeal to the
Listers and everything should be great.
Thanks!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Re: Landing gear setup |
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 7:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear setup
Am starting to plan my landing gear (split gear with the Cub style triangle cabane
at the top and springs instead of bungees) and after going through the archives
I think I have an idea how to design this but please give me a sanity
check. I am using the long fuselage plans.
1) Whether short of long fuselage, axle should be 2" forward of plans location
if adding brakes and tail wheel.
The short fuselage plans show the axle 17" behind the firewall, the long fuselage
plans have the firewall 2" further forward so the standard axle location
would be 19" back from the firewall. SO with brakes and tail wheel the axle should
be:
15" aft of firewall for short fuse
17" aft of firewall for long fuse
Correct?
Also since many people increase the front fuse length probably a better measurement
point would be the center of the front ash cross member. In that case the
axle position would be:
5" aft of the center of the front ash cross member for any fuselage.
2) When I get done with the gear the fuselage should sit on the ground with about
a 13 degree deck angle (measured on the top longeron), from the archive info.
So if I install the tailwheel and prop up the front of the fuse to a 13 degree
angle, place the wheel/tire that I am going to use on the floor under the
fuse at the correct 2" forward location THAT is the axle position that I need
to build my gear to correct? I can build a Bill Rewey-style jig to hold the
axles in that position.
Thanks
--
Rick Holland
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| Subject: | Cont. A-65 runup & flight |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
My little optical prop speed sensor calibrates nicely ---on incandescent
lighting.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of walt
evans
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cont. A-65 runup & flight
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
I dissaggree, back in the Submarine service of the 60's we didn't have
incandesent <sp> lighting cause the rotating machinery would seem to stop,
and people might grab it. Don't think you see freq with a flourescent.
Please, if someone trys this,,, let us know.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "bike.mike" <bike.mike@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cont. A-65 runup & flight
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bike.mike" <bike.mike@charter.net>
>
> Incandescents won't work. The filament glows when the power is off so you
> don't get the flicker that makes the strobe effect you're looking for. It
> has to be either a sodium (yellow) arc lamp, mercuric arc (white with
bluish
> tint) or a flourescent (with the frequency questions you raise).
>
>
> ----- Original Message [snipped]-----
>
> > Now it could be that the altered
> > frequency is still a multiple of 60hz though, so this wouldn't matter.
> > Using a
> > good 'ol incandescent lamp (from a 120VAC source) should be very
accurate
> > though. A drop lamp secured to a cabane should work great.
> >
> > Now you've got me wanting to try this. Something to do next time I'm at
> the
> > hangar at night...
> >
> > Steve Ruse
> > N6383J - KFTW
> >
>
>
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d="scan'208,217"; a="1152200550:sNHT41100512"
| Subject: | Re: Landing gear setup |
Rick, Do you mean the longEST fuselage plans?
If you are using the fuselage that is the one that is the longEST at 7" over the
shortEST, then look at my post a few years back on how we decided where the
axle should be on Greg and Dale's Piet. The placement is perfect as the taxiing
with a skid on grass is absolutely superb.
As a good rule of thumb, go out to the field and hold up the tails on a bunch of
taildraggers like a Cub or a Taylorcraft. Hold it up until the longerons are
level (as if you were weighing it). The weight on the tail wheel is about what
you should have if you have the axle placed correctly, brakes or no brakes.
It should almost balance.
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear setup
I am using the long fuselage plans.
On 7/11/05, Christian Bobka <sbobka@charter.net> wrote:
Rick,
There are three fuselages. Which are you using?
the fuselage that appears in the Flying and Glider Manual. The drawings show
a wood gear.
the fuselage that is on the plans that DP sells. The drawings show the split
steel landing gear.
the fuselage that was used for the corvair piets. No gear is shown for this
fuselage but it is the one most build as it is 7 inches longer or so than the
early fuselages.
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear setup
Am starting to plan my landing gear (split gear with the Cub style triangle
cabane at the top and springs instead of bungees) and after going through the
archives I think I have an idea how to design this but please give me a sanity
check. I am using the long fuselage plans.
1) Whether short of long fuselage, axle should be 2" forward of plans location
if adding brakes and tail wheel.
The short fuselage plans show the axle 17" behind the firewall, the long
fuselage plans have the firewall 2" further forward so the standard axle location
would be 19" back from the firewall. SO with brakes and tail wheel the axle
should be:
15" aft of firewall for short fuse
17" aft of firewall for long fuse
Correct?
Also since many people increase the front fuse length probably a better measurement
point would be the center of the front ash cross member. In that case
the axle position would be:
5" aft of the center of the front ash cross member for any fuselage.
2) When I get done with the gear the fuselage should sit on the ground with
about a 13 degree deck angle (measured on the top longeron), from the archive
info. So if I install the tailwheel and prop up the front of the fuse to a
13 degree angle, place the wheel/tire that I am going to use on the floor under
the fuse at the correct 2" forward location THAT is the axle position that I
need to build my gear to correct? I can build a Bill Rewey-style jig to hold
the axles in that position.
Thanks
--
Rick Holland
--
Rick Holland
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Old-X-N-Score: scored -400
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Prange Larry J PSNS <prangel@psns.navy.mil>
FINALLY!!! I have been working on my Piet since 1997. (Yea I know, that's
sometime in the last century.) I have endured mountains of honey-dos and
life-events that have stretched my Piet project out to where it is now
gaining on the decade mark. And every year, I have watched this list with
envy as many of you have prepared for the annual pilgrimage to Brodhead. It
just hasn't been in the cards for me UNTIL NOW! YES! I get to go this
year! I have the tickets! After all of this time I will get to meet some
of you in the flesh and actually touch a flying Piet. I'll try to make
myself obvious by wearing my red/tan '75th Anniversary' Piet hat, that I
bought from Steve Eldredge, one of my Piet T shirts that I have collected
over the years and, of course, my camera to document the event.
So, if you see a middle-aged guy walking around with a silly, ear-to-ear
kid-grin, dressed like that, walk up to him and introduce yourself. It's
very likely to be me. Let's talk Piets!
See you on Saturday at Brodhead!
Larry Prange
NX1929A
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=144
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead . . . |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
I will look for you Larry!
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: "Prange Larry J PSNS" <prangel@psns.navy.mil>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead . . .
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Prange Larry J PSNS
<prangel@psns.navy.mil>
>
> FINALLY!!! I have been working on my Piet since 1997. (Yea I know,
that's
> sometime in the last century.) I have endured mountains of honey-dos and
> life-events that have stretched my Piet project out to where it is now
> gaining on the decade mark. And every year, I have watched this list with
> envy as many of you have prepared for the annual pilgrimage to Brodhead.
It
> just hasn't been in the cards for me UNTIL NOW! YES! I get to go this
> year! I have the tickets! After all of this time I will get to meet some
> of you in the flesh and actually touch a flying Piet. I'll try to make
> myself obvious by wearing my red/tan '75th Anniversary' Piet hat, that I
> bought from Steve Eldredge, one of my Piet T shirts that I have collected
> over the years and, of course, my camera to document the event.
>
> So, if you see a middle-aged guy walking around with a silly, ear-to-ear
> kid-grin, dressed like that, walk up to him and introduce yourself. It's
> very likely to be me. Let's talk Piets!
>
> See you on Saturday at Brodhead!
>
> Larry Prange
> NX1929A
> http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=144
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <jphillip@alarismed.com>
Boy, a blast from the past. I haven't sen a post from you in quite some
time, Larry. I look forward to seeing you at Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Prange
Larry J PSNS
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead . . .
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Prange Larry J PSNS
<prangel@psns.navy.mil>
FINALLY!!! I have been working on my Piet since 1997. (Yea I know,
that's
sometime in the last century.) I have endured mountains of honey-dos
and
life-events that have stretched my Piet project out to where it is now
gaining on the decade mark. And every year, I have watched this list
with
envy as many of you have prepared for the annual pilgrimage to Brodhead.
It
just hasn't been in the cards for me UNTIL NOW! YES! I get to go this
year! I have the tickets! After all of this time I will get to meet
some
of you in the flesh and actually touch a flying Piet. I'll try to make
myself obvious by wearing my red/tan '75th Anniversary' Piet hat, that I
bought from Steve Eldredge, one of my Piet T shirts that I have
collected
over the years and, of course, my camera to document the event.
So, if you see a middle-aged guy walking around with a silly, ear-to-ear
kid-grin, dressed like that, walk up to him and introduce yourself.
It's
very likely to be me. Let's talk Piets!
See you on Saturday at Brodhead!
Larry Prange
NX1929A
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead . . . |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Larry,
Your description will match about 100 others there. You might want to write
"LARRY" in magic marker on your forehead. Or just wander like all and be
friendly. It's not quite as big as OSH afterall.
See you there
I'll be the one with the Piet Tee shirt and camera.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Prange Larry J PSNS" <prangel@psns.navy.mil>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead . . .
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Prange Larry J PSNS
> <prangel@psns.navy.mil>
>
> FINALLY!!! I have been working on my Piet since 1997. (Yea I know,
> that's
> sometime in the last century.) I have endured mountains of honey-dos and
> life-events that have stretched my Piet project out to where it is now
> gaining on the decade mark. And every year, I have watched this list with
> envy as many of you have prepared for the annual pilgrimage to Brodhead.
> It
> just hasn't been in the cards for me UNTIL NOW! YES! I get to go this
> year! I have the tickets! After all of this time I will get to meet some
> of you in the flesh and actually touch a flying Piet. I'll try to make
> myself obvious by wearing my red/tan '75th Anniversary' Piet hat, that I
> bought from Steve Eldredge, one of my Piet T shirts that I have collected
> over the years and, of course, my camera to document the event.
>
> So, if you see a middle-aged guy walking around with a silly, ear-to-ear
> kid-grin, dressed like that, walk up to him and introduce yourself. It's
> very likely to be me. Let's talk Piets!
>
> See you on Saturday at Brodhead!
>
> Larry Prange
> NX1929A
> http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=144
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Landing gear setup |
Pieters.
These measurers caused me to go measure Repeit. Split axle, 16 inches aft of
firewall, 4 inches aft of forward LG fitting. Longeron angle at 3 point, 8
degrees. Long fuse w/ A-65
Hope it flys
The Kernal
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d="scan'208"; a="1113130753:sNHT49496476"
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead . . . |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
People: Please. If you go to Brodhead, wear a name tag!
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead . . .
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dick Navratil"
<horzpool@goldengate.net>
>
> Larry,
> Your description will match about 100 others there. You might want to
write
> "LARRY" in magic marker on your forehead. Or just wander like all and be
> friendly. It's not quite as big as OSH afterall.
> See you there
> I'll be the one with the Piet Tee shirt and camera.
> Dick N.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Prange Larry J PSNS" <prangel@psns.navy.mil>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 3:52 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead . . .
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Prange Larry J PSNS
> > <prangel@psns.navy.mil>
> >
> > FINALLY!!! I have been working on my Piet since 1997. (Yea I know,
> > that's
> > sometime in the last century.) I have endured mountains of honey-dos
and
> > life-events that have stretched my Piet project out to where it is now
> > gaining on the decade mark. And every year, I have watched this list
with
> > envy as many of you have prepared for the annual pilgrimage to Brodhead.
> > It
> > just hasn't been in the cards for me UNTIL NOW! YES! I get to go this
> > year! I have the tickets! After all of this time I will get to meet
some
> > of you in the flesh and actually touch a flying Piet. I'll try to make
> > myself obvious by wearing my red/tan '75th Anniversary' Piet hat, that I
> > bought from Steve Eldredge, one of my Piet T shirts that I have
collected
> > over the years and, of course, my camera to document the event.
> >
> > So, if you see a middle-aged guy walking around with a silly, ear-to-ear
> > kid-grin, dressed like that, walk up to him and introduce yourself.
It's
> > very likely to be me. Let's talk Piets!
> >
> > See you on Saturday at Brodhead!
> >
> > Larry Prange
> > NX1929A
> > http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=144
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Chris, et all,
I'm installing a combo CHT / EGT instrument in my panel, and it says it
should be located at least 12" from the whiskey compass, which is already located
top center. This location can NOT be accomplished, if I keep the new
instrument in the panel.
How much error can I expect in the whiskey compass, if the CHT / EGT
instrument is about 5" below the compass, and will I be able to 'Swing the Compass'
again, and adjust this new error out of the compass ?
I'm using the hose clamp style thermocouple, and it instructs to drill a
3/16" hole, 6" from the manifold of the leanest cylinder, as defined by the
engine manufacturer.
Is this the Right Hand, Aft cylinder ?
I inject Baby Oil into both aft pipes, about 2 1/2" from the flange, and if I
put the EGT thermocouple 6" from the flange, the smoke oil will no doubt,
effect the reading, and possibly cause carbon build up on the probe.
Should I install the EGT probe on one of the two front cylinders ?
I'm also using 4' extension leads for both the CHT and EGT, but the
instructions say this should not effect the accuracy of the instrument.
When I get this all worked out, with the mixture control and instruments,
I'll be able to fly cover, for Kernel Corky, dive in on those bogies, and NAIL
'EM with Toilet Paper !!
Chuck Gantzer
NX770CG
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d="scan'208,217"; a="1301053099:sNHT28324190750"
| Subject: | Re: EGT Location |
Chuck,
In the BAE Jetstream, there was a placard that said, more or less, "Compass not
accurate when electrical systems are energized". This basically meant that the
compass was of no value as long as you had juice applied to the aircraft.
Hmmmm.
Who uses the compass anyway? And, if you need to use it, just shut off the motor
box for a second and see which way you need to go.
The thermocouples produce a voltage that changes with temperature. I would imagine
it difficult to adjust this error out of the compass as it varies in voltage.
I don;t know which cylinder is leanest. Look around on Cessna 150 sites in google
and maybe that will be discussed in a thread on the O-200.
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: Rcaprd@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:37 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: EGT Location
Chris, et all,
I'm installing a combo CHT / EGT instrument in my panel, and it says it should
be located at least 12" from the whiskey compass, which is already located top
center. This location can NOT be accomplished, if I keep the new instrument
in the panel.
How much error can I expect in the whiskey compass, if the CHT / EGT instrument
is about 5" below the compass, and will I be able to 'Swing the Compass' again,
and adjust this new error out of the compass ?
I'm using the hose clamp style thermocouple, and it instructs to drill a 3/16"
hole, 6" from the manifold of the leanest cylinder, as defined by the engine
manufacturer.
Is this the Right Hand, Aft cylinder ?
I inject Baby Oil into both aft pipes, about 2 1/2" from the flange, and if I
put the EGT thermocouple 6" from the flange, the smoke oil will no doubt, effect
the reading, and possibly cause carbon build up on the probe.
Should I install the EGT probe on one of the two front cylinders ?
I'm also using 4' extension leads for both the CHT and EGT, but the instructions
say this should not effect the accuracy of the instrument.
When I get this all worked out, with the mixture control and instruments, I'll
be able to fly cover, for Kernel Corky, dive in on those bogies, and NAIL 'EM
with Toilet Paper !!
Chuck Gantzer
NX770CG
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d="scan'208,217"; a="1301067206:sNHT21462936"
Three more hours went on Greg and Dale's ship today. That puts us almost at 1/2
way through the 40 hour fly off (homemade prop you know). Still hoping to do
the other 21 hours in the next 8 days.
We put in some more right thrust and now I am begining to think that the left rudder
is really all because of assymetric thrust due to ascending blade v descending
blade. This would mean that the better correct would be to remove some
of the right thrust and add more downthrust so that is what will be tried next.
It "almost" flies feet and hands off. We will get it perfect!
I did about 20 touch and goes today, getting the flaring height calibrated in my
brain. None of the landing were necessarily bad but some could have been a
little better. Forward and side slips were of no problem, even at the aft of
the aft limit CG position we are operating at right now.
Chris
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d="scan'208,217"; a="481303385:sNHT83039984"
Anybody do any spins in the Piet? Should I do this during the test phase or not
bother?
Chris
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| Subject: | A-65 starting snafu |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
Walt,
I know this is an old question but I just got around to catching up on my
list reading during the hurricane scare this weekend.
I had a hard time starting a hot engine during Young Eagle events or quick
fuel stops. Tried all the things that others have posted. Then I tried
turning off the fuel about 30 seconds before stopping the engine. Restarts
every time no matter how long between stop and restart. Try it and it might
work for you
Ted Brousseau
Naples, Florida
> Time: 05:35:14 PM PST US
> From: "walt evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu
>
> Need some input on starting a warm A-65.
> This is the first time this season that I flew on a warm evening. Usually
I have
> my starting sequence that works pretty good, but today I flew and it sat
idle
> in the 80 deg weather. Went to pull it and nothing. Like it was
instantly
> flooded. Did have the throttle closed.
>
> I had progressed from the cold mornings where I gave it two primes, pulled
thru
> 6 tips with switch off. And it would start on first flip.
> Then to warmer AM's with one prime,,,,,
> Then now with no primes, just pull thru 4 tips with switch off and it
will go.
>
> But with it hot tonite,,,it just didn't fire.
>
> Any help??
>
> thanks
> walt evans
> NX140DL
>
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d="scan'208"; a="1153979494:sNHT34294370"
| Subject: | Re: Cont. A-65 runup & flight |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bike.mike" <bike.mike@charter.net>
A prop speed sensor would probably work well on candle power, if the candle
was bright enough.
The issue was about stroboscopic effect which makes moving objects appear as
a series of distinct images. If you move your hand rapidly back and forth
in front of your computer CRT...you see a series of distinct phantom images.
Move your hand rapidly back and forth under the glow of a yellow (sodium
arc) parking lot light at night...you see a series of distinct phantom
images. Move your hand rapidly back and forth under some flourescent lights
(probably with a bad ballast)...you get a series of images. Move your hand
rapidly back and forth under or in front of an incandescent,
glowing-filament, buy-at-the-supermarket, light bulb...you get a blurred
image, not a distinct series of images. The afterglow of an incandescent
filament fills in the gaps between the brightest parts, making the
stroboscopic effect go away.
When your prop rotates under a typical parking lot light, you see a series
of distinct images that appear in different places. When the rotational
speed is an exact multiple of the frequency of the stroboscopic light
flashes, the distinct images appear in the same place, making it look much
like your prop has stopped. Since the stroboscopic effect occurs at the
frequency of the AC power delivered to the parking lot light, the visual
stoppage occurs at or near multiples of 60 Hz (in the US).
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cont. A-65 runup & flight
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Gow"
<rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
>
> My little optical prop speed sensor calibrates nicely ---on incandescent
> lighting.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Walt
> Evans
> Sent: July 11, 2005 10:41 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cont. A-65 runup & flight
>
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Walt Evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
>
> I disagree, back in the Submarine service of the 60's we didn't have
> incandesent <sp> lighting cause the rotating machinery would seem to stop,
> and people might grab it. Don't think you see freq with a flourescent.
> Please, if someone tries this,,, let us know.
> Walt Evans
> NX140DL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bike.mike" <bike.mike@charter.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cont. A-65 runup & flight
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bike.mike"
<bike.mike@charter.net>
> >
> > Incandescents won't work. The filament glows when the power is off so
you
> > don't get the flicker that makes the strobe effect you're looking for.
It
> > has to be either a sodium (yellow) arc lamp, mercuric arc (white with
> bluish
> > tint) or a flourescent (with the frequency questions you raise).
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message [snipped]-----
> >
> > > Now it could be that the altered
> > > frequency is still a multiple of 60hz though, so this wouldn't matter.
> > > Using a
> > > good 'ol incandescent lamp (from a 120VAC source) should be very
> accurate
> > > though. A drop lamp secured to a cabane should work great.
> > >
> > > Now you've got me wanting to try this. Something to do next time I'm
at
> > the
> > > hangar at night...
> > >
> > > Steve Ruse
> > > N6383J - KFTW
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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