---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/29/05: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:17 AM - Was I bad? (Stephen!) 2. 06:31 AM - Re: Landing gear setup (Rick Holland) 3. 08:52 AM - Re: Was I bad? (Dick Navratil) 4. 10:33 AM - Re: Was I bad? (Isablcorky@aol.com) 5. 12:57 PM - Re: Landing gear setup (GCARDINAL@mn.rr.com) 6. 04:25 PM - Spar Size analysis? (Jake Crause) 7. 06:21 PM - Wire wheel info from Brodhead (Jim Markle) 8. 10:40 PM - Re: Spar Size analysis? (Gene Hubbard) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:35 AM PST US From: "Stephen!" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Was I bad? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stephen!" Was I a bad boy and cut off from the list? -- IBA# 11465 http://imagesdesavions.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:36 AM PST US From: Rick Holland Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear setup Greg Two questions: Is your firewall position to the plans? (12" forward of the front ash cross strut). How many inches did you have to move your wing back to make CG (if any)? Thanks Rick H On 7/24/05, gcardinal@mn.rr.com wrote: > > Long fuselage (per Don P.'s supplemental plans), A-65 engine, axle located > 20" aft of the firewall has resulted in > very good ground handling. > With the plane level there is 15# on the skid. > With a 220+ lb pilot the plane is quite maneuverable on the ground (no > brakes, tailskid equipped) > -- Rick Holland ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:12 AM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Was I bad? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dick Navratil" After Broadhead everybody may be going thru a period of quiet relection or rapid gluing and sanding. Dick N. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen!" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Was I bad? > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Stephen!" > > > > Was I a bad boy and cut off from the list? > > > -- > IBA# 11465 > http://imagesdesavions.com > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:33:42 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Was I bad? After reading all the glowing reports of Brodhead 05 I have been trying hard to work under an outside shed on my fuse but this La heat is tough on an ole man so have decided to cover the fuse with a tarp and go into the a/c shop and begin the wings. By the time they are completed it should be a bit cooler. I want to be one of those who fly into Brodhead 06, God willing. Promised Chuck Gantzer he could have a portion of my stand-up tent since his is too long for his Wal-Mart shelter CMC in La ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:18 PM PST US From: GCARDINAL@mn.rr.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear setup --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: GCARDINAL@mn.rr.com Rick, The fuselage is built to the supplemental (Corvair) plans. I will verify the dimension this weekend. The wing is moved back 3 1/2 inches and we are flying close to the aft cg limit. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear setup > Greg > > Two questions: Is your firewall position to the plans? (12" > forward of the > front ash cross strut). How many inches did you have to move your > wing back > to make CG (if any)? > > Thanks > > Rick H > > On 7/24/05, gcardinal@mn.rr.com wrote: > > > > Long fuselage (per Don P.'s supplemental plans), A-65 engine, > axle located > > 20" aft of the firewall has resulted in > > very good ground handling. > > With the plane level there is 15# on the skid. > > With a 220+ lb pilot the plane is quite maneuverable on the > ground (no > > brakes, tailskid equipped) > > > > > > -- > Rick Holland > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:57 PM PST US From: "Jake Crause" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Spar Size analysis? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jake Crause" Greetings, I've been able to find some references in the archives about the 3/4" spar being OK. My question is how was that conclusion reached? Can't seem to find that part in the archives. I do not doubt that it is OK, but I was hoping to have some facts to back up my choice for the smaller spar. Was there an analysis done? Does anyone have a weight comparison between the 1" routed spar and a solid 3/4". Jake Crause www.homebuiltairplanes.com P.S. Got my Table DONE - Working on the Rib Jig!! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:47 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wire wheel info from Brodhead --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle Several people asked about where to order the hub/rim/spokes/tires/tubes like the 21" wheel I took to Brodhead. I scanned all the invoices and copied them to the files section of mykitplane.com... Keep in mind that the invoices are for 2 sets so watch the quantities......I think the tires/tubes were for one set but just watch the quantities closely.... They can be found here: Jim ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:30 PM PST US From: Gene Hubbard Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Spar Size analysis? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gene Hubbard Jake, Page 64 of the manual (note 10) says that Pietenpol himself used spars laminated out of 3/4" square material for his later aircraft. The engineering that would go into it would be to calculate the moment of inertia for the two cross-sections. Units come out as inches to the fourth power. The higher the moment of inertia, the better. I started covering my Piet this week--tail and one aileron have Polyfiber on them now, and wings are off. Gene Hubbard San Diego Jake Crause wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jake Crause" > >Greetings, > >I've been able to find some references in the archives about the 3/4" >spar being OK. My question is how was that conclusion reached? Can't >seem to find that part in the archives. I do not doubt that it is OK, >but I was hoping to have some facts to back up my choice for the smaller >spar. Was there an analysis done? > >Does anyone have a weight comparison between the 1" routed spar and a >solid 3/4". > >Jake Crause >www.homebuiltairplanes.com > >P.S. Got my Table DONE - Working on the Rib Jig!! > > > > > > > > >