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1. 05:26 AM - Re: Piet model vid (M&M Stanley)
2. 06:45 AM - Re: lift strut strap buckling (Jeff Boatright)
3. 07:09 AM - Re: NEed a pdf file (Mitty)
4. 09:13 AM - Re: NEed a pdf file (Christian Bobka)
5. 10:21 AM - Re: NEed a pdf file (Rcaprd@aol.com)
6. 10:38 AM - Re: NEed a pdf file (Christian Bobka)
7. 10:39 PM - gap seals (DONALD COOLEY)
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| Subject: | Re: Piet model vid |
Hi Walt,
Thanks for sharing the Piet vid site with us. As a modeler myself, it is
good to see that the model Piet's are being built & flown in many parts of
the world, just like the real thing!
Currently working on the end spinach with some spruce that Arthur Johnson
donated to me (Thanks again Arthur!!) on his way to Brodhead/Osh this last
month.
My wing ribs are completed.
Regards
Mark S
Japan,
Typhoon #'s 11 & 12 have just come to life to the south of Japan, could get
wet this week !
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| Subject: | Re: lift strut strap buckling |
Chris and everyone else who responded-
Wow! Thanks for all of the information. The list consensus seems to
be that, as stated in the plans, the strap is optional, but a good
idea. In what may be an abundance of caution, we replaced the strap
this weekend.
Thanks again,
Jeff
>If it is the strap between the gear fittings on each side that you
>are talking off, Greg and Dale have them on their pietenpol. The
>strap takes the tensile loads and the ash takes the compressive
>loads.
>
>chris
>Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net>Douwe Blumberg
>To: <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>pietenpolgroup
>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 6:54 AM
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: lift strut strap buckling
>
>Jeff,
>
>I too have seen this on many Piets, typically in the front strap.
>
>It must be hard landings where not only is the lift strut loading
>that strap in compression, but the gear bungee attachment is pulling
>that strut fitting down at the same time. I think this introduces a
>kind of downward "rolling" motion in that fitting which wants to
>buckle that belly strap.
>
>Most people just add more bolts.
>
>Interesting note, I've never seen it on a axle-geared Piet.
>
>Good luck
>
>Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: NEed a pdf file |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mitty <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Christian,
Do you have a link to the webpage of FAR part 23?I can
convert web to pdf
--- Christian Bobka <sbobka@charter.net> wrote:
> Does anybody know where I can download, in pdf
> format, the entire FAR part 23 on light airplane
> certification. It normally goes by "14 CFR Part 23"
> and I am looking to download it once in its entirety
> instead of the 500 subparts, one at a time...
>
> Chris
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NEed a pdf file |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <sbobka@charter.net>
Mitty, yes. It is on this page and it appears UNDER all the links on this
page in its entirety.
I can take care of the few graphs and charts that are otherwise unreadable.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Chris
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=3dcd582f14ee6e6d12c2bc1c9102e5e6&rgn=div5&view=text&node=14:1.0.1.3.9&idno=14#14:1.0.1.3.9.0.59
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mitty" <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NEed a pdf file
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mitty <benny_bee_01@yahoo.com>
>
> Christian,
> Do you have a link to the webpage of FAR part 23?I can
> convert web to pdf
>
> --- Christian Bobka <sbobka@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > Does anybody know where I can download, in pdf
> > format, the entire FAR part 23 on light airplane
> > certification. It normally goes by "14 CFR Part 23"
> > and I am looking to download it once in its entirety
> > instead of the 500 subparts, one at a time...
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NEed a pdf file |
In a message dated 8/21/2005 11:14:39 AM Central Standard Time,
sbobka@charter.net writes:
Mitty, yes. It is on this page and it appears UNDER all the links on this
page in its entirety.
I can take care of the few graphs and charts that are otherwise unreadable.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Chris
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=3dcd582f14ee6e6d12c2b
c1c9102e5e6&rgn=div5&view=text&node=14:1.0.1.3.9&idno=14#14:1.0.1.3.9.0.59
Chris,
I just checked out that site, and yes, there seems to be the whole thing
there. I'm just curious...Why couldn't you just hit 'print', and have a hard
copy? It would be many pages.
Chuck G.
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| Subject: | Re: NEed a pdf file |
Chuck,
I need to be able to take it with me when I fly around the world on long trips.
I already have a bag that weighs about 75 pounds with all my crap that I normally
have to carry. Putting it in PDF and reducing the weight down to the weight
of a CD or putting it on the hard disk is really the best option. I have
copies of the reg right here. It is just not in a form that is most useable.
I am doing the strenth substatiation of the Z-3 Flitzer Falke. I need to refer
to the reg from time to time to keep the work moving along...
Cheers,
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: Rcaprd@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NEed a pdf file
In a message dated 8/21/2005 11:14:39 AM Central Standard Time, sbobka@charter.net
writes:
Mitty, yes. It is on this page and it appears UNDER all the links on this
page in its entirety.
I can take care of the few graphs and charts that are otherwise unreadable.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Chris
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?cecfr&sid3dcd582f14ee6e6d12c2bc1c9102e5e6&rgndiv5&viewtext&node14:1.0.1.3.9&idno14#14:1.0.1.3.9.0.59
Chris,
I just checked out that site, and yes, there seems to be the whole thing there.
I'm just curious...Why couldn't you just hit 'print', and have a hard copy?
It would be many pages.
Chuck G.
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Hello Group,
I was wondering.....how about using piano hinges for elevators? The only
real drawback I can see is that it wouldn't look "authentic". Maybe function
dictates form? I plan using piano hinges for the ailerons, so this seems not
too out of line. Comments?
BTW, I just returned from the NWAAC Fly-in at McMinnville, Oregon. There
was not a single Piet at this fairly prestigious event. Mine is still probably
several years from attending. Will it be the first? Where are all the Left
Coast Piets? The world awaits an answer!
Keep the sawdust flyin'! Don Cooley
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