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1. 05:23 AM - Re: Rims and Tires ()
2. 08:55 AM - Re: fixed landing gear (Gordon Bowen)
3. 10:26 AM - Fw: FW: pete (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
4. 02:44 PM - Fw: Rims and Tires (Philip Miller)
5. 03:40 PM - Re: Rims and Tires (Michael Conkling)
6. 05:31 PM - Re: (Maybe) First Flight? (Larry Nelson)
7. 10:02 PM - fixed landing gear (Dick Navratil)
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Subject: | Re: Rims and Tires |
Ken,
Dale and I used 3.50 X 19 Chen Shin motorcycle tires mounted on 40 spoke DID rims
which were located at a local motorcycle salvage yard.
Spokes are custom from Buchanan Spoke and Rim in California.
Hubs are 6" wide and were made to Howard Henderson's plans.
Small picture attached.
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Heide
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 5:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rims and Tires
Members of the list:
I am interested in aluminum spoked rims and the width of the motorcycle tire.
This also include suppliers of such, along with size of wheels, etc.....Sorry
for the confusion!
Ken Heide
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Subject: | Re: fixed landing gear |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
I didn't do this on the already semi-completed Piete I bought and rebuilt,
but for those of you out there in Pieteland that have yet to install a gear,
you may want to consider picking up a fiberglass bow gear that is used on
the Varieze and Longeze. It's made from strands of S-glass and epoxy wound
over a mandrel, shaped like a hunting bow. Would support a Piet even with
hard bounce. Very simple and tough. Not very traditional looking but you
could always paint it with faux-wood paint to get the desired affect.
Probably look on ebay and find one for less than a couple 100 bucks.
They're made by Featherlite in Ukiah CA., think they still sell new for
about $600. I've bounced my Cozy sized gear with a 2100 lb gross quite a
few times without evidence of any damage. The gear could be attached to the
existing tabs on the Piete's lower longerons with 7/16" bolts run thru the
entire length of the front and back tabs and the gear attached with a 7/16"
further ideas, chk out someone in your area that has a Rutanesque type
canard-pusher's gear installation.
Gordon Bowen -Homer Alaska
Cozy IV N64CY
Osprey II N64SY
Pietenpol N-1033B
" There are no passengers on spaceship Earth, we are all crew", McLuhan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fixed landing gear
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dick Navratil"
<horzpool@goldengate.net>
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> Ditto here on the wheels.
> Dont get me wrong here guys on this bent axle. This was not a near
disaster
> or anything. I just noticed more deflection than previous and one of the
> cables had stressed.
> Dick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 1:22 PM
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: fixed landing gear
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> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
> > <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
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> > Dick-- my axle is about .20" thick and has survived some pretty rough
> > landings and a groud loop when my tailwheel shoe
> > failed.
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> > Mike C.
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> > PS-- the straight axle and wire wheels just look so go to me..I couldn't
> > even consider the split axle version with donut tires.
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Heres the address to a neat free-flight Piet model.
> http://smallflyingarts.com/Current_Content/Spotlight/aircamper.htm
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Subject: FW: pete
From: "Terry Bowden" <tbowden@ramaircraft.com>
Terry L. Bowden
Chief Engineer / D.E.R. Powerplant & Engines
RAM Aircraft, Ltd. Partnership
Office: (254) 752-8381 ext. 333 / Fax: (254) 752-3307
email: tbowden@ramaircraft.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Toliver
Subject: pete
Check this out:
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From: Robert Toliver
Subject: pete
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Is it possible to use split landing gear with spoked wheels? If so, are there
any special considerations about that (wheel dimensions limits, side loads, etc.)
I like the look of the spoked wheels, but the impact absorbtion, strength
and utility of the split axle sure looks more attractive. I'd miss those beautiful
ash struts though.
Phil Miller
PietenVair
Altadena,CA
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Subject: | Re: Rims and Tires |
Phil,
Look up the 1929-30 Travelair 2000 landing gear for how it could be done --
the Travelair used 28 x 4 wheels with the shock cords attached to the center
"vee" (like a J-3 Cub). It will take some drafting time to figure axle
placement and landing gear angles for the right deck angle.
Concerning the straight axle Piets -- if I remember correctly, aren't Part
23 landing gear (only) stressed for about 3g's ??
Mike C.
Pretty Prairie, KS
----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Miller
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:43 PM
Subject: Fw: Pietenpol-List: Rims and Tires
Is it possible to use split landing gear with spoked wheels? If so, are
there any special considerations about that (wheel dimensions limits, side
loads, etc.) I like the look of the spoked wheels, but the impact
absorbtion, strength and utility of the split axle sure looks more
attractive. I'd miss those beautiful ash struts though.
Phil Miller
PietenVair
Altadena,CA
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Subject: | Re: (Maybe) First Flight? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com>
N444MH, Howard Henderson's old plane, has it's wing
moved 3" aft of it's plans built location, to
accomodate my 222# vs Howards and Joe Santana's 175#.
Yesterday, I finished the work, safetied the
turnbuckles, and had two friend help. I did some more
high speed taxi's and raised the tail, when she
promptly lifted off, and I put her back down.
I did that on two more runs. It was the middle of the
hot afternoon, with wind rustling the tree tops above
me. I am at a one way in, opposite way out airstrip.
The "A" was purring. (I loved the water spashing on my
face from the overflow.)
While I was being encouraged to go fly that darn
thing, I decided to wait until the cool of a quiet
morning, zero wind preferably. It was never my
intention to fly her yesterday.
I went flying in my Cessna 195 today (newly acquired 2
months and 30 hours ago) and wondered to myself if I
am just chicken. Got to shake it off. The Cub I flew
back in the Spring was a piece of cake.
It's just a plane. Right? (Somebody say "yes".) Any
clever advice, snide remarks, (yes, get that nose
down), encouragement, etc will be appreciated.
Larry Nelson
Springfield, MO
Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A
Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH
1963 GMC 4106-1618
SV/ Spirit of America
ARS WB0JOT
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Subject: | fixed landing gear |
Just a follow up on my landing gear problem. I spent the day at the hangar, removing
the wheels and axle. I was shocked to find that my port side bungee had
almost completely chaffed thru, not from this incident but from rubbing on a
bolt head on the gear leg. For anyone who hasn't checked you bungees in a while,
it may be worth unwrapping and checking. I will make a chafe guard out of
2" SCH 40 pvc pipe to cover the bolts.
Dick N.
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