---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/01/05: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:53 AM - Re: fuel prices and gas tanks (harvey.rule@bell.ca) 2. 04:18 AM - Re: fuel prices and gas tanks (Jeff Boatright) 3. 08:56 AM - Re: Try to wipe that smile off my face! (Larry Nelson) 4. 10:05 AM - Seat Belts (Egan, John) 5. 11:02 AM - Re: Try to wipe that smile off my face! (Michael D Cuy) 6. 11:16 AM - Re: Try to wipe that smile off my face! (Phillips, Jack) 7. 11:35 AM - Re: Try to wipe that smile off my face! (Larry Nelson) 8. 11:48 AM - ribs & bbq sauce (Michael D Cuy) 9. 11:51 AM - Re: Seat Belts (harvey.rule@bell.ca) 10. 12:11 PM - Re: Try to wipe that smile off my face! (Larry Nelson) 11. 12:14 PM - Re: Try to wipe that smile off my face! (Galen Hutcheson) 12. 02:09 PM - Re: HAPI powered Pietenpol for sale on Barnstormers.com (Tuu2Tango@aol.com) 13. 02:14 PM - Re: fuel prices and gas tanks (Gary Gower) 14. 03:09 PM - Re: Try to wipe that smile off my face! (Rcaprd@aol.com) 15. 03:22 PM - Re: Try to wipe that smile off my face! (Christian Bobka) 16. 05:37 PM - Re: fuel prices and gas tanks (Mitty) 17. 06:46 PM - Re: fuel prices and gas tanks (Jeff Boatright) 18. 07:16 PM - Re: Model A spark plug gaps (Larry Nelson) 19. 07:20 PM - Re: fuel prices and gas tanks (Mitty) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:28 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: fuel prices and gas tanks From: harvey.rule@bell.ca --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey.rule@bell.ca I went to the New Orleans web page yesterday and they have bigger problems than anyone could imagine.There are now sharks and alligators wondering around in those waters.Boy ,that's scary! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fuel prices and gas tanks --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark I got my commercial CFI and CFII at Jackson. Times like this bring out the best in people and the worst in people. I hope you told the guy what he could do with the hundred that someone would eventually pay even if you didn't. Yet with the jerks you don't hear about the good stories. My dad after Camile picked up a camp stove for my aunt in Gulfport at the time. He took it to the counter to check out. The owner looked at him and asked, "Is this going to someone on the Gulf Coast?" He told him it was for his sister in the Gulfport area. He just said, "No charge, and wish her my best." I was on the coast about 2 weeks after Camile. This has many simularities. Its almost like you combine the flooding of Virginia, but put it in worst terrain (New Orleans) and the other destruction and you have damage that will last for decades. The last time I was there only a few years ago you could still see some signs of Camile and that was decades later. This one will be no different and likely worse in some ways. Hopefully those that had airplanes in the area got them out and can go fly them occasionally to get away from the rest of the mess. Mitty wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mitty > >Here in Jackson ms yesterday some clown were selling 5 >gal jugs for $100.Damn bastards!! :(It's pretty bad >here at the moment.No gas,no drinking water...We got >power but my internet still dont work...SUX > >--- Rick Holland wrote: > > > >>$2.40? Ha! Thats peanuts, I am in San Diego on a >>business trip and regular >>is already $2.99 before any increase. By the way had >>the afternoon off and >>visited the San Diego Aerospace Museam, it is >>excellent. They have the >>original wing rib jig used to make the Spirt of St. >>Louis wing down the road >>at Lindberg field and it used 1/2" x 1/4" cap strips >>just like the Piet >>except they are rotated 90 degrees so the entire rib >>is 1/4" thick. >> >> >>On 8/30/05, hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com >> >>wrote: >> >> >>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: >>> >>> >>hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com >> >> >>>Some inside info: Gasoline wholesale price >>> >>> >>(automobil) just hit 2.40 , >> >> >>>forty cents up from yesterday! >>>Fill up your gas tanks, retail price will be 3 + >>> >>> >>by the end of the week >> >> >>>Hans >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>===================================== >>===================================== >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Rick Holland >> >> >> > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:41 AM PST US <984E798CE7C4D4419A6D99DF385597A8961557@toroondc511.bell.corp.bce.ca> <984E798CE7C4D4419A6D99DF385597A8961557@toroondc511.bell.corp.bce.ca> From: Jeff Boatright Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: fuel prices and gas tanks --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright http://www.mds.mennonite.net/ http://www.redcross.org/ http://www.aspca.org/ At 6:52 AM -0400 9/1/05, harvey.rule@bell.ca wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey.rule@bell.ca > >I went to the New Orleans web page yesterday and they have bigger >problems than anyone could imagine.There are now sharks and alligators >wondering around in those waters.Boy ,that's scary! -- Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD Assistant Professor, Emory Eye Center, Atlanta, GA, USA Senior Editor, Molecular Vision, http://www.molvis.org/molvis mailto:jboatri@emory.edu ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:56:58 AM PST US From: Larry Nelson Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Try to wipe that smile off my face! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson Howard Hendersons Pietenpol, N444MH (for MacLaren / Henderson I guess) flew this morning. I made three flights and everything went GREAT. She is a bit "right wing low" hand off, BUT she does has a broken left wing tip rib, that might be the cause of that, although it is hardly noticable. My little strip is just east of metro Springfield, MIssouri, the Flying Bar H. She is banana shaped in plan view and I didn't realize that till this morning when I looked DOWN on it. She is "take off to the SW and land to the NE" kind of strip, due to obstructions. Immediately upon departure you fly over a deep railroad "trench" with trees on both sides. Not a good place to have to put her back down, and on my mind, you can be sure. I just LOVE flying this plane. My first landing was the best. My last as just sort of flaring too high and she just settled in without complaint. Anyway, since Chuck wouldn't let me ride in HIS plane at Brodhead '04 (said I was way too fat, but he did take my friend Wes up).....I thought I need to join the fun. Try to wipe my smile off....I dare ya. Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH 1963 GMC 4106-1618 SV/ Spirit of America ARS WB0JOT __________________________________ Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:37 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seat Belts From: "Egan, John" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Egan, John" What is the best practice for seat and shoulder belts for a new Piet and does anybody have any purchase sourcing suggestions? Thanks all. This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ============================================================================== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:02:47 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Try to wipe that smile off my face! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Larry-- way to go. Congratulations on logging your 1st few flights in a Pietenpol !!! On the broken wingtip bow....is that the bow that is broken ? If so--that is a compression member and I'd not fly it like that. If it is a rib--less worry. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:16:43 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Try to wipe that smile off my face! From: "Phillips, Jack" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" Way to go, Larry! Great feeling, isn't it? Depending on how the rib is broken, you might be able to repair it without having to do much fabric work. I had to repair one broken rib after my forced landing last fall and was able to do the repair in place by working through one inspection hole and a 6" slit in the fabric which was easily patched with tape. How did the rib get broken? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:03 AM PST US From: Larry Nelson Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Try to wipe that smile off my face! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson Mike, it is a rib that was actually broken, I believe, by HH hisself. Previous owner never repaired but I am planning on doing so this winter. --- Michael D Cuy wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > > Larry-- way to go. Congratulations on logging your > 1st few flights in a > Pietenpol !!! > > On the broken wingtip bow....is that the bow that is > broken ? If so--that > is a compression > member and I'd not fly it like that. If it is a > rib--less worry. > > Mike C. > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > > Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A Cessna 195 N9883A Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH 1963 GMC 4106-1618 SV/ Spirit of America ARS WB0JOT ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:26 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: ribs & bbq sauce --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Larry-- that's great news. Just slather some bbq sauce on some ribs this weekend and worry about repairing the wood one when the flying season wanes and sunsets become annoyingly early ! Mike C. PS_-way to go ! PSS--- do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:51:54 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Seat Belts From: harvey.rule@bell.ca --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey.rule@bell.ca I used the military type from Aircraft Spruce.I havn't flown with them yet but just sitting in the seat and making motor noises;they feel just fine. I bought the lap belt and two shoulder strap type that has a long single belt on the shoulder for feeding back behind the seat and around the cable and through the special wrap back on itself piece.It looks like a square piece of metal with slots in it.This piece comes with the order.I cut a slot in the wood that my back rests on,as high as I could get it without running into too much wood from the turtle deck.Seems to work OK. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Egan, John Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seat Belts --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Egan, John" What is the best practice for seat and shoulder belts for a new Piet and does anybody have any purchase sourcing suggestions? Thanks all. ------ This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ======================================================================== ====== ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:11:12 PM PST US From: Larry Nelson Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Try to wipe that smile off my face! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson Jack, HH kept meticulous logs and so did Joe Santana. I believe it was HH that ground looped her. And thanks for the advice. --- "Phillips, Jack" wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, > Jack" > > Way to go, Larry! Great feeling, isn't it? > > Depending on how the rib is broken, you might be > able to repair it > without having to do much fabric work. I had to > repair one broken rib > after my forced landing last fall and was able to do > the repair in place > by working through one inspection hole and a 6" slit > in the fabric which > was easily patched with tape. How did the rib get > broken? > > Jack Phillips > Raleigh, NC > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > > Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A Cessna 195 N9883A Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH 1963 GMC 4106-1618 SV/ Spirit of America ARS WB0JOT __________________________________ Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:14:50 PM PST US From: Galen Hutcheson Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Try to wipe that smile off my face! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson Congratulations Larry!!! Say, I live in Harrison, AR just south of you. If you want to make a short long distance flight sometime, give me a call and come on down. Harrison (HRO) has around 6000' X 150' so it shouldn't give you much trouble. It's a nice flight too with the lakes to look at from the air. Have a great time enjoying your plane. Doc (H) 870-741-5539 Do Not Archive --- Larry Nelson wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson > > > > > Howard Hendersons Pietenpol, N444MH (for MacLaren / > Henderson I guess) flew this morning. I made three > flights and everything went GREAT. > > She is a bit "right wing low" hand off, BUT she does > has a broken left wing tip rib, that might be the > cause of that, although it is hardly noticable. > > My little strip is just east of metro Springfield, > MIssouri, the Flying Bar H. She is banana shaped in > plan view and I didn't realize that till this > morning > when I looked DOWN on it. She is "take off to the SW > and land to the NE" kind of strip, due to > obstructions. Immediately upon departure you fly > over > a deep railroad "trench" with trees on both sides. > Not > a good place to have to put her back down, and on my > mind, you can be sure. > > I just LOVE flying this plane. My first landing was > the best. My last as just sort of flaring too high > and > she just settled in without complaint. > > Anyway, since Chuck wouldn't let me ride in HIS > plane > at Brodhead '04 (said I was way too fat, but he did > take my friend Wes up).....I thought I need to join > the fun. > > Try to wipe my smile off....I dare ya. > > Larry Nelson > Springfield, MO > Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A > Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH > 1963 GMC 4106-1618 > SV/ Spirit of America > ARS WB0JOT > > > > __________________________________ > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the > tour: > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:09:51 PM PST US From: Tuu2Tango@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HAPI powered Pietenpol for sale on Barnstormers.com This might be worth exploring except for the VW engine. Been there, done that and VERY disappointed in VW based "airplane" engines.. Won't fly in an aircamper very well, that I can promise. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:14:52 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: fuel prices and gas tanks Yes, Harvey, is more serious that you think, in the short time. Drinking water will be the most important thing first... (hope I can explain with my low english) the smell of dead animals, and swamped water with garbage will make people very sick, then getting food and things to wear, probably one less problem now, is that is not winter, I dont know how cold could get there at night or early in the morning... then some ileness gets serious with many people and medicines get dificult to deliver... All this beguins in a few days and get worse in a daily basis, until everithing gets under control. Another problem is the mud, trucks with help cant get easy over dirt roads (or broken asphalt roads) to little towns. I dont know how rainy will get later, but will lower the speed in pumping the water out... Is important that people close to them volunter to help, One of the first things we do is to trow from our airplanes, when weather permits little parachutes with 1/2 quart bottled water and chocolate bars or cookies and bread, What ever we get donated... Volunteers make the little parachutes... We "waypoint" every family found with the GPS to later send help. Here floods get serious mostly with poor people that live in low (cheap) land and near the rivers. Saludos Gary Gower Local Volunteer in Search and Rescue Do not archive harvey.rule@bell.ca wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey.rule@bell.ca I went to the New Orleans web page yesterday and they have bigger problems than anyone could imagine.There are now sharks and alligators wondering around in those waters.Boy ,that's scary! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fuel prices and gas tanks --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark I got my commercial CFI and CFII at Jackson. Times like this bring out the best in people and the worst in people. I hope you told the guy what he could do with the hundred that someone would eventually pay even if you didn't. Yet with the jerks you don't hear about the good stories. My dad after Camile picked up a camp stove for my aunt in Gulfport at the time. He took it to the counter to check out. The owner looked at him and asked, "Is this going to someone on the Gulf Coast?" He told him it was for his sister in the Gulfport area. He just said, "No charge, and wish her my best." I was on the coast about 2 weeks after Camile. This has many simularities. Its almost like you combine the flooding of Virginia, but put it in worst terrain (New Orleans) and the other destruction and you have damage that will last for decades. The last time I was there only a few years ago you could still see some signs of Camile and that was decades later. This one will be no different and likely worse in some ways. Hopefully those that had airplanes in the area got them out and can go fly them occasionally to get away from the rest of the mess. Mitty wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mitty > >Here in Jackson ms yesterday some clown were selling 5 >gal jugs for $100.Damn bastards!! :(It's pretty bad >here at the moment.No gas,no drinking water...We got >power but my internet still dont work...SUX > >--- Rick Holland wrote: > > > >>$2.40? Ha! Thats peanuts, I am in San Diego on a >>business trip and regular >>is already $2.99 before any increase. By the way had >>the afternoon off and >>visited the San Diego Aerospace Museam, it is >>excellent. They have the >>original wing rib jig used to make the Spirt of St. >>Louis wing down the road >>at Lindberg field and it used 1/2" x 1/4" cap strips >>just like the Piet >>except they are rotated 90 degrees so the entire rib >>is 1/4" thick. >> >> >>On 8/30/05, hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com >> >>wrote: >> >> >>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: >>> >>> >>hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com >> >> >>>Some inside info: Gasoline wholesale price >>> >>> >>(automobil) just hit 2.40 , >> >> >>>forty cents up from yesterday! >>>Fill up your gas tanks, retail price will be 3 + >>> >>> >>by the end of the week >> >> >>>Hans >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>===================================== >>===================================== >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Rick Holland >> >> >> > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:36 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Try to wipe that smile off my face! Hey Larry !! A big CONGRATULATIONS on your first flight !! You're gonna have a blast flying that little ol' plane around. It's both challenging and forgiving. When you land at various airports, folks come out of the woodwork to check out your plane !! They don't even glance at a half million dollor plane, just to check your plane in detail. It's great to have N444MH back in the air, where she belongs !! Chuck G. ps I'm glad you took my wise crack in jest...the way it was meant. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:22:38 PM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Try to wipe that smile off my face! Chuck is right. The best airplane to own is the one where they push the Learjet out of the hangar to put yours in. Chris Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Try to wipe that smile off my face! Hey Larry !! A big CONGRATULATIONS on your first flight !! You're gonna have a blast flying that little ol' plane around. It's both challenging and forgiving. When you land at various airports, folks come out of the woodwork to check out your plane !! They don't even glance at a half million dollor plane, just to check your plane in detail. It's great to have N444MH back in the air, where she belongs !! Chuck G. ps I'm glad you took my wise crack in jest...the way it was meant. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:39 PM PST US From: Mitty Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fuel prices and gas tanks --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mitty True,Mark. I just got home from gas hunting..No luck.I have about 1.5 - 2 gallons left in my bike.That will be enough for two more trips to work and back .Then i'll buy me a shwinn bike. Now there is a NUMBER of great folks.Everyone except those few bastards luders(spell) are holding up together.Helping out each other.Companies open doors for people.Distributing ice and drinking water for free..The only problem is that we have no gas around here to drive and take chance for it.However we are here are high spirited.We got through the storm with minimal damage here .Got power back so we re cool.No water or gas is ok...Hopefully soon we'll get some. Now In new orleans few folks (watching here on TV) are screaming "take us out,WE WANT OUT" Then walmart burgluries.Heared on radio they were breaking in hospitals looking for drugs.Hell here on CNN i saw a dude running with about three dozens of fishing poles.Those assholes(excuse my french) were warned and asked to move out.Instread they chosen to ride it out.Then they chose to break in the stores and steal stuff even if they don't really need 6 pairs of jeans or riding lawnmower(sae on CNN boy pushing it out of store) Then they choose to shoot up the helicopter that was rescuing folks. Then they acuse government because it's easier to blame uncle sam then do something for your own good. It's just a type of people.Makes me sick and disgusted.Let me tell you,I saw a tramendous help from government and other folks.People helping each other and this is a bottom line.We'll get through it only working together.Now acusing sam or each other. Peace out.:) Mitty --- Mark wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark > > > I got my commercial CFI and CFII at Jackson. Times > like this bring out > the best in people and the worst in people. I hope > you told the guy > what he could do with the hundred that someone would > eventually pay even > if you didn't. Yet with the jerks you don't hear > about the good > stories. My dad after Camile picked up a camp stove > for my aunt in > Gulfport at the time. He took it to the counter to > check out. The > owner looked at him and asked, "Is this going to > someone on the Gulf > Coast?" He told him it was for his sister in the > Gulfport area. He > just said, "No charge, and wish her my best." > > I was on the coast about 2 weeks after Camile. This > has many > simularities. Its almost like you combine the > flooding of Virginia, but > put it in worst terrain (New Orleans) and the other > destruction and you > have damage that will last for decades. The last > time I was there only > a few years ago you could still see some signs of > Camile and that was > decades later. This one will be no different and > likely worse in some > ways. > > Hopefully those that had airplanes in the area got > them out and can go > fly them occasionally to get away from the rest of > the mess. > > > > Mitty wrote: > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mitty > > > > >Here in Jackson ms yesterday some clown were > selling 5 > >gal jugs for $100.Damn bastards!! :(It's pretty bad > >here at the moment.No gas,no drinking water...We > got > >power but my internet still dont work...SUX > > > >--- Rick Holland wrote: > > > > > > > >>$2.40? Ha! Thats peanuts, I am in San Diego on a > >>business trip and regular > >>is already $2.99 before any increase. By the way > had > >>the afternoon off and > >>visited the San Diego Aerospace Museam, it is > >>excellent. They have the > >>original wing rib jig used to make the Spirt of > St. > >>Louis wing down the road > >>at Lindberg field and it used 1/2" x 1/4" cap > strips > >>just like the Piet > >>except they are rotated 90 degrees so the entire > rib > >>is 1/4" thick. > >> > >> > >>On 8/30/05, hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com > >> > >>wrote: > >> > >> > >>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: > >>> > >>> > >>hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com > >> > >> > >>>Some inside info: Gasoline wholesale price > >>> > >>> > >>(automobil) just hit 2.40 , > >> > >> > >>>forty cents up from yesterday! > >>>Fill up your gas tanks, retail price will be 3 + > >>> > >>> > >>by the end of the week > >> > >> > >>>Hans > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>===================================== > >>===================================== > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>Rick Holland > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:14 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fuel prices and gas tanks --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright I found out today that the evacuation was called for on Sunday, but buses and trains stopped on Saturday. So, for the 25% of the Americans who were below the poverty level in the city and probably didn't have cars, I guess the solution was to walk out. Too old or young or infirm to walk out 50 miles? Go to the 'dome. Sit for 5 days; 9 oz of water per day. At least 2 babies have died and several old folks. So maybe they aren't _all_ assholes for not leaving when commanded, huh? As for the lawnmowers and fishing rods and what have you. Yep, there's always a few assholes. Doesn't mean a thing compared to the tens of thousands who are suffering. >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mitty > >True,Mark. >I just got home from gas hunting..No luck.I have about >1.5 - 2 gallons left in my bike.That will be enough >for two more trips to work and back .Then i'll buy me >a shwinn bike. >Now there is a NUMBER of great folks.Everyone except >those few bastards luders(spell) are holding up >together.Helping out each other.Companies open doors >for people.Distributing ice and drinking water for >free..The only problem is that we have no gas around >here to drive and take chance for it.However we are >here are high spirited.We got through the storm with >minimal damage here .Got power back so we re cool.No >water or gas is ok...Hopefully soon we'll get some. >Now In new orleans few folks (watching here on TV) are >screaming "take us out,WE WANT OUT" Then walmart >burgluries.Heared on radio they were breaking in >hospitals looking for drugs.Hell here on CNN i saw a >dude running with about three dozens of fishing >poles.Those assholes(excuse my french) were warned and >asked to move out.Instread they chosen to ride it >out.Then they chose to break in the stores and steal >stuff even if they don't really need 6 pairs of jeans >or riding lawnmower(sae on CNN boy pushing it out of >store) >Then they choose to shoot up the helicopter that was >rescuing folks. >Then they acuse government because it's easier to >blame uncle sam then do something for your own good. >It's just a type of people.Makes me sick and >disgusted.Let me tell you,I saw a tramendous help from >government and other folks.People helping each other >and this is a bottom line.We'll get through it only >working together.Now acusing sam or each other. > >Peace out.:) > >Mitty > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:16:02 PM PST US From: Larry Nelson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A spark plug gaps --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson Somewhere in my pile o' Pietenpol stuff, there is a discussion of gapping Model A plugs differently for magneto use. Someone please save me the trouble of looking. Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A Cessna 195 N9883A Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH 1963 GMC 4106-1618 SV/ Spirit of America ARS WB0JOT ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:20:02 PM PST US From: Mitty Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fuel prices and gas tanks --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mitty Recon thats why New Orleans is now in Anarchy...?? http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/hurricanes_and_tropical_storms Yeah .Assholes makes me sick..Fighting and raping,shooting helis down while babies dying? No good. --- Jeff Boatright wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright > > > I found out today that the evacuation was called for > on Sunday, but > buses and trains stopped on Saturday. So, for the > 25% of the > Americans who were below the poverty level in the > city and probably > didn't have cars, I guess the solution was to walk > out. Too old or > young or infirm to walk out 50 miles? Go to the > 'dome. Sit for 5 > days; 9 oz of water per day. At least 2 babies have > died and several > old folks. So maybe they aren't _all_ assholes for > not leaving when > commanded, huh? > > As for the lawnmowers and fishing rods and what have > you. Yep, > there's always a few assholes. Doesn't mean a thing > compared to the > tens of thousands who are suffering. > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mitty > > > > >True,Mark. > >I just got home from gas hunting..No luck.I have > about > >1.5 - 2 gallons left in my bike.That will be enough > >for two more trips to work and back .Then i'll buy > me > >a shwinn bike. > >Now there is a NUMBER of great folks.Everyone > except > >those few bastards luders(spell) are holding up > >together.Helping out each other.Companies open > doors > >for people.Distributing ice and drinking water for > >free..The only problem is that we have no gas > around > >here to drive and take chance for it.However we are > >here are high spirited.We got through the storm > with > >minimal damage here .Got power back so we re > cool.No > >water or gas is ok...Hopefully soon we'll get some. > >Now In new orleans few folks (watching here on TV) > are > >screaming "take us out,WE WANT OUT" Then walmart > >burgluries.Heared on radio they were breaking in > >hospitals looking for drugs.Hell here on CNN i saw > a > >dude running with about three dozens of fishing > >poles.Those assholes(excuse my french) were warned > and > >asked to move out.Instread they chosen to ride it > >out.Then they chose to break in the stores and > steal > >stuff even if they don't really need 6 pairs of > jeans > >or riding lawnmower(sae on CNN boy pushing it out > of > >store) > >Then they choose to shoot up the helicopter that > was > >rescuing folks. > >Then they acuse government because it's easier to > >blame uncle sam then do something for your own > good. > >It's just a type of people.Makes me sick and > >disgusted.Let me tell you,I saw a tramendous help > from > >government and other folks.People helping each > other > >and this is a bottom line.We'll get through it only > >working together.Now acusing sam or each other. > > > >Peace out.:) > > > >Mitty > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > >