---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/05/05: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:57 AM - Re: Securing Brake Line to Gear (Clif Dawson) 2. 08:19 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/03/05 (Galen Hutcheson) 3. 08:35 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/03/05 (Mitty) 4. 12:59 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/03/05 (Doyle Combs) 5. 03:55 PM - Re: Pietenpol Propellers (Harvey Rule) 6. 06:25 PM - Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/03/05 (M&M Stanley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:22 AM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Securing Brake Line to Gear --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson White or black? I've got some black ones and they look a lot better than the white. I think I remember reading that the black was more UV resistant too but not sure of that. Clif > > Hi Lynn: I'm going to secure my brake lines with good ol plastic zip > ties. Gives the old airplane a modern look. Leon S. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:29 AM PST US From: Galen Hutcheson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/03/05 --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson Welcome Tim, Glad you are making the plunge. Sounds like you are ready to get your feet wet in the fantastic world of aviation...so, "Hook'em Horns!" Have fun building and enjoy the total experience. Certainly persue the flight training as you will want to be ready to enjoy your completed aircraft as soon as it is ready to fly. This list will be very helpful to you and feel free to ask any questions you may have. You may not agree with all of the responses, but that is ok. At least you will have more information to make your own decisions from. Best wishes, Doc H --- Tim Willis wrote: > This email is directed to the club in general and > our moderator in particular. The first part of this > message deals with my membership problems, and the > second part introduces me to the group. > > I just got a notice from Yahoo that my membership > had been denied because the moderator had not > replied to my request for membership. I don't know > what has happened, for I have been getting the > message list for the last week or so. Maybe the > moderator needs to do one more thing? > > Otherwise, about 10 days ago I bought some well > assembled Piet parts-- the fuselage assembly, tail > feathers and most of the wing ribs. I should have > a plan set later this week, having bought it from a > fellow in Ohio who was not going to be able to use > them soon. > I have ordered the Corvair manual from William Wynne > and have been ogling all sorts of Piet material on > the Internet. I would never undertake building a > plane without the Internet's fantastic means of > communication including pictures and the support of > groups like this. You all have some great postings > on this site. Thanks already. I look forward to > interacting, learning and sharing with you all. > > My name is Tim Willis. I retired with over 30 years > service from SBC Communications (actually from SBC > Labs in Austin). I consult part-time now in a > couple of venues toally unrelated to flying. > > I owned and operated a commercial machine shop in > St. Louis many years ago, so I know how to turn and > mill metal. Unfortunately, I no longer have a shop > of that sort, but a neighbor does. I used to be a > fair welder, but will have to practice again to > avoid birds__t welds like my last few. I hve no > sheet metal experience and am glad to be building a > plane that requires little, except for the cowl. I > have a fairly complete set of wood power tools-- > both bench and hand-- and an ample 5-car garage, > complete with HVAC and a urinal. Move in a fridge > and I can stay in there all day! > > I am 64 years old and have never owned a plane or > even learned to fly, but I have been interested all > my life. I figured it was time to do this now, or > soon it will be too late. My earliest memories > involve blimps and USN fighter aircraft in southern > California during WWII. My first plane ride was in > a B-25 out of Rome, NY. I have been to Oshkosh, and > many years ago handled small planes in the air a few > times, mostly Cessna 172s, but no landings or > takeoffs. Flying lessons in a Cessna 152 will start > later this year. I will also be getting added > flying time in with another fellow who owns a 172. > > I have never seen a finished Pietenpol. My idea has > always been to own an open cockpit plane and just > fly for the thrill of it. The Piet looks like it > will fill the bill very nicely. I like the fact > that it is a historic classic design, and that so > many love this little plane. > > My wife Dixie and I live 7 miles west of Georgetown, > TX, which is about 30 miles north of downtown Austin > on I-35. We have been in Texas 10 years and in > Missouri for 30 years before that. I am originally > from east Tennessee, but am glad I am learning to > fly here, not there. Flatter and less rocky Kansas > would be even better. > > I hope to hear from you. One member here in Texas > has already offered help and a ride. I hope to get > into this much more actively after I get three more > critical projects and a knee surgery out of the way. > I'd like to be flying this wooden wonder next year. > It's just a thousand small steps from here to > there. > > Tim Willis > 20137 West Lake Pkwy. > Georgetown, TX 78628 > mobile 512.864.4158 > > > Pietenpol-List Digest Server > wrote: > * > > ================================================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================== > > Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be > found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes > the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features > Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the > plain ASCII version > of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with > a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list/Digest.Pietenpol-List.2005-09-03.html > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list/Digest.Pietenpol-List.2005-09-03.txt > > > ================================================ > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================ > > > > Pietenpol-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat 09/03/05: 5 > > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 08:27 AM - Needed a new vice anyhow (Rick > Holland) > 2. 09:12 AM - Re: Needed a new vice anyhow > (Christian Bobka) > 3. 10:19 AM - Re: Needed a new vice anyhow > (Isablcorky@aol.com) > 4. 10:24 AM - Custom-Built Pietenpol Assemblies > (Cinda Gadd) > 5. 12:20 PM - Re: Needed a new vice anyhow (Rick > Holland) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:27:26 AM PST US > From: Rick Holland > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Needed a new vice anyhow > > I have never broken a vice before but that 1 3/8 x > .095 landing gear tubing > was too much for mine. Squeezed the end of one piece > ok then was squeezing > the end of the second piece and boom! One of the > vice jaws went East and the > tube departed in a Southerly direction. > > Home depot here I come. Needed a bigger vice anyhow. > > -- > Rick Holland > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:12:11 AM PST US > From: "Christian Bobka" > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Needed a new vice > anyhow > > lookout corky! > Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und > Flitzermotoren > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick Holland > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:26 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Needed a new vice anyhow > > > I have never broken a vice before but that 1 3/8 x > .095 landing gear tubing was > too much for mine. Squeezed the end of one piece ok > then was squeezing the > end of the second piece and boom! One of the vice > jaws went East and the tube > departed in a Southerly direction. > > Home depot here I come. Needed a bigger vice anyhow. > > -- > Rick Holland > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:19:30 AM PST US > === message truncated === ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:50 AM PST US From: Mitty Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/03/05 --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mitty Nice to meet you Tim. I dont have a pietenpol but like going through the group and read up too. Mitty --- Tim Willis wrote: > This email is directed to the club in general and > our moderator in particular. The first part of this > message deals with my membership problems, and the > second part introduces me to the group. > > I just got a notice from Yahoo that my membership > had been denied because the moderator had not > replied to my request for membership. I don't know > what has happened, for I have been getting the > message list for the last week or so. Maybe the > moderator needs to do one more thing? > > Otherwise, about 10 days ago I bought some well > assembled Piet parts-- the fuselage assembly, tail > feathers and most of the wing ribs. I should have > a plan set later this week, having bought it from a > fellow in Ohio who was not going to be able to use > them soon. > I have ordered the Corvair manual from William Wynne > and have been ogling all sorts of Piet material on > the Internet. I would never undertake building a > plane without the Internet's fantastic means of > communication including pictures and the support of > groups like this. You all have some great postings > on this site. Thanks already. I look forward to > interacting, learning and sharing with you all. > > My name is Tim Willis. I retired with over 30 years > service from SBC Communications (actually from SBC > Labs in Austin). I consult part-time now in a > couple of venues toally unrelated to flying. > > I owned and operated a commercial machine shop in > St. Louis many years ago, so I know how to turn and > mill metal. Unfortunately, I no longer have a shop > of that sort, but a neighbor does. I used to be a > fair welder, but will have to practice again to > avoid birds__t welds like my last few. I hve no > sheet metal experience and am glad to be building a > plane that requires little, except for the cowl. I > have a fairly complete set of wood power tools-- > both bench and hand-- and an ample 5-car garage, > complete with HVAC and a urinal. Move in a fridge > and I can stay in there all day! > > I am 64 years old and have never owned a plane or > even learned to fly, but I have been interested all > my life. I figured it was time to do this now, or > soon it will be too late. My earliest memories > involve blimps and USN fighter aircraft in southern > California during WWII. My first plane ride was in > a B-25 out of Rome, NY. I have been to Oshkosh, and > many years ago handled small planes in the air a few > times, mostly Cessna 172s, but no landings or > takeoffs. Flying lessons in a Cessna 152 will start > later this year. I will also be getting added > flying time in with another fellow who owns a 172. > > I have never seen a finished Pietenpol. My idea has > always been to own an open cockpit plane and just > fly for the thrill of it. The Piet looks like it > will fill the bill very nicely. I like the fact > that it is a historic classic design, and that so > many love this little plane. > > My wife Dixie and I live 7 miles west of Georgetown, > TX, which is about 30 miles north of downtown Austin > on I-35. We have been in Texas 10 years and in > Missouri for 30 years before that. I am originally > from east Tennessee, but am glad I am learning to > fly here, not there. Flatter and less rocky Kansas > would be even better. > > I hope to hear from you. One member here in Texas > has already offered help and a ride. I hope to get > into this much more actively after I get three more > critical projects and a knee surgery out of the way. > I'd like to be flying this wooden wonder next year. > It's just a thousand small steps from here to > there. > > Tim Willis > 20137 West Lake Pkwy. > Georgetown, TX 78628 > mobile 512.864.4158 > > > Pietenpol-List Digest Server > wrote: > * > > ================================================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================== > > Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be > found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes > the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features > Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the > plain ASCII version > of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with > a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list/Digest.Pietenpol-List.2005-09-03.html > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list/Digest.Pietenpol-List.2005-09-03.txt > > > ================================================ > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================ > > > > Pietenpol-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat 09/03/05: 5 > > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 08:27 AM - Needed a new vice anyhow (Rick > Holland) > 2. 09:12 AM - Re: Needed a new vice anyhow > (Christian Bobka) > 3. 10:19 AM - Re: Needed a new vice anyhow > (Isablcorky@aol.com) > 4. 10:24 AM - Custom-Built Pietenpol Assemblies > (Cinda Gadd) > 5. 12:20 PM - Re: Needed a new vice anyhow (Rick > Holland) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:27:26 AM PST US > From: Rick Holland > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Needed a new vice anyhow > > I have never broken a vice before but that 1 3/8 x > .095 landing gear tubing > was too much for mine. Squeezed the end of one piece > ok then was squeezing > the end of the second piece and boom! One of the > vice jaws went East and the > tube departed in a Southerly direction. > > Home depot here I come. Needed a bigger vice anyhow. > > -- > Rick Holland > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:12:11 AM PST US > From: "Christian Bobka" > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Needed a new vice > anyhow > > lookout corky! > Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und > Flitzermotoren > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick Holland > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:26 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Needed a new vice anyhow > > > I have never broken a vice before but that 1 3/8 x > .095 landing gear tubing was > too much for mine. Squeezed the end of one piece ok > then was squeezing the > end of the second piece and boom! One of the vice > jaws went East and the tube > departed in a Southerly direction. > > Home depot here I come. Needed a bigger vice anyhow. > > -- > Rick Holland > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:19:30 AM PST US > === message truncated === Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:45 PM PST US From: "Doyle Combs" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/03/05 Tim, I tried your email but had the message returned. Please call me at 512/752-9202. Thanks. Doyle Combs. I think I have some common interest in your peit. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Willis To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 11:13 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/03/05 This email is directed to the club in general and our moderator in particular. The first part of this message deals with my membership problems, and the second part introduces me to the group. I just got a notice from Yahoo that my membership had been denied because the moderator had not replied to my request for membership. I don't know what has happened, for I have been getting the message list for the last week or so. Maybe the moderator needs to do one more thing? Otherwise, about 10 days ago I bought some well assembled Piet parts-- the fuselage assembly, tail feathers and most of the wing ribs. I should have a plan set later this week, having bought it from a fellow in Ohio who was not going to be able to use them soon. I have ordered the Corvair manual from William Wynne and have been ogling all sorts of Piet material on the Internet. I would never undertake building a plane without the Internet's fantastic means of communication including pictures and the support of groups like this. You all have some great postings on this site. Thanks already. I look forward to interacting, learning and sharing with you all. My name is Tim Willis. I retired with over 30 years service from SBC Communications (actually from SBC Labs in Austin). I consult part-time now in a couple of venues toally unrelated to flying. I owned and operated a commercial machine shop in St. Louis many years ago, so I know how to turn and mill metal. Unfortunately, I no longer have a shop of that sort, but a neighbor does. I used to be a fair welder, but will have to practice again to avoid birds__t welds like my last few. I hve no sheet metal experience and am glad to be building a plane that requires little, except for the cowl. I have a fairly complete set of wood power tools-- both bench and hand-- and an ample 5-car garage, complete with HVAC and a urinal. Move in a fridge and I can stay in there all day! I am 64 years old and have never owned a plane or even learned to fly, but I have been interested all my life. I figured it was time to do this now, or soon it will be too late. My earliest memories involve blimps and USN fighter aircraft in southern California during WWII. My first plane ride was in a B-25 out of Rome, NY. I have been to Oshkosh, and many years ago handled small planes in the air a few times, mostly Cessna 172s, but no landings or takeoffs. Flying lessons in a Cessna 152 will start later this year. I will also be getting added flying time in with another fellow who owns a 172. I have never seen a finished Pietenpol. My idea has always been to own an open cockpit plane and just fly for the thrill of it. The Piet looks like it will fill the bill very nicely. I like the fact that it is a historic classic design, and that so many love this little plane. My wife Dixie and I live 7 miles west of Georgetown, TX, which is about 30 miles north of downtown Austin on I-35. We have been in Texas 10 years and in Missouri for 30 years before that. I am originally from east Tennessee, but am glad I am learning to fly here, not there. Flatter and less rocky Kansas would be even better. I hope to hear from you. One member here in Texas has already offered help and a ride. I hope to get into this much more actively after I get three more critical projects and a knee surgery out of the way. I'd like to be flying this wooden wonder next year. It's just a thousand small steps from here to there. Tim Willis 20137 West Lake Pkwy. Georgetown, TX 78628 mobile 512.864.4158 Pietenpol-List Digest Server wrote: * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list/Digest.Pietenpol-List.2005-09-03.html Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list/Digest.Pietenpol-List.2005-09-03.txt EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/03/05: 5 Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:27 AM - Needed a new vice anyhow (Rick Holland) 2. 09:12 AM - Re: Needed a new vice anyhow (Christian Bobka) 3. 10:19 AM - Re: Needed a new vice anyhow (Isablcorky@aol.com) 4. 10:24 AM - Custom-Built Pietenpol Assemblies (Cinda Gadd) 5. 12:20 PM - Re: Needed a new vice anyhow (Rick Holland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:26 AM PST US From: Rick Holland Subject: Pietenpol-List: Needed a new vice anyhow I have never broken a vice before but that 1 3/8 x .095 landing gear tubing wa s too much for mine. Squeezed the end of one piece ok then was squeezing the end of the second piece and boom! One of the vice jaws went East and the tube departed in a Southerly direction. Home depot here I come. Needed a bigger vice anyhow. -- Rick Holland ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:11 AM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Needed a new vice anyhow lookout corky! Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:26 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Needed a new vice anyhow I have never broken a vice before but that 1 3/8 x .095 landing gear tubing was too much for mine. Squeezed the end of one piece ok then was squeezing the end of the second piece and boom! One of the vice jaws went East and the tube departed in a Southerly direction. Home depot here I come. Needed a bigger vice anyhow. -- Rick Holland ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:19:30 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Needed a new vice anyhow So thats what that UFO flying over was all about. Hope it missed N O as they have enough trouble without half a nawthern vise. They have (had) enough vices through the years. Corky Die Fidelen Achtziger Do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:55 AM PST US From: "Cinda Gadd" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Custom-Built Pietenpol Assemblies Some of you might remember Dave Stephens, who had the nicely done Corvair fuselage at Brodhead this year. He enjoys building so much he want s to build and sell Piet assemblies. Check out his website below. He will be basing his Piet here at Hales Landing soon unless too many people order too many Piet parts and he doesn't have time to finish his own ;) http://home.frognet.net/~rdstephe/ Skip csfog@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:27 PM PST US From: Rick Holland Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Needed a new vice anyhow Sorry guys, Freudian slip (and my own stupidity), I meant VISE not VICE. do not archive On 9/3/05, Isablcorky@aol.com wrote: > > So thats what that UFO flying over was all about. Hope it missed N O as > they have enough trouble without half a nawthern vise. They have (had) > enough vices through the years. > Corky > Die Fidelen Achtziger > Do not archive > -- Rick ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:55:11 PM PST US From: Harvey Rule Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Propellers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Harvey Rule I'll be ordering from Tennessee but one of the criteria of ordering is to know the hub thickness.I have all the rest of the info but this.Could someone inform me of this piece of data,thanks. > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed G." > > > Harvey ..They both have on line order forms on their web sites at; > www.sensenich.com and > www.tn-prop.com..I bought from Tennessee because their price was half > the price of a Sensenich uncertified prop without the brass leading > edge..I set out to buy a Culver prop and found that Tennessee had > bought them out...They have the template for the older Franklin > hub..Which ever way you go make sure you stress your bolt pattern to > them..The PLZ Franklins use an SAE pattern and when you say Franklin > that's what they seem to think you need. I got mine several months ago > and the workmanship in it is top notch and it has a nice classic shape > to it...Ed Grentzer > > >> From: harvey.rule@bell.ca >> Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Propellers >> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:19:39 -0400 >> >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey.rule@bell.ca >> >> That's correct;the man I bought it from told me that he didn't think the >> adaptor set up was all that safe and he felt that it was too heavy with >> the metal prop.So much so,that he felt there was a danger of tipping >> over easily.He suggested that I switch to a wooden prop and the AME that >> is helping me said that a wooden prop would also be smoother.So I'm in >> the market for a wood prop with either a 72X42 or 72X43 for the 80hp.I >> have sent out letters to both Sensenich and Tennessee and have received >> no info back.I believe that they want all the particulars with regards >> to bolt pattern etc.before they will get back to me.In one situation you >> have to fill out an order form first.So I have to wait till I can get >> back to the aircraft to glean all that info.I will be selling that >> McCauley prop if anyone is interested.And the adaptor as well.With a >> wood prop on I may be able to reinstall the starter.That ,however may >> just put me right back where I started with the danger of tipping.With >> the starter,the metal prop and adaptor on it will tip over unless I tie >> a rock to the rear,HAHAHA!I'd probably land up in the Redeau River eh >> guys! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham >> Hansen >> Sent: August 17, 2005 9:38 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Propellers >> >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham Hansen" >> >> >> Chris and Ed, >> >> Harvey has an adapter on the Franklin which allows him to use the >> Continental props. It had been machined for that purpose. >> >> I saw it in May when I was at Ottawa and, at that time, a McCauley metal >> >> prop (for a Continental) was fitted. His friend, an Aircraft Maintenance >> >> Engineer (as I am), told him a wooden prop would be safer with that >> adapter. >> I agree with his engineer. >> >> Harvey bought his GN 1 in an advanced state of construction and all this >> >> stuff was done by the builder. >> >> It would be better if he could find a wooden Sensenich for the Franklin, >> but >> I think that is not too likely. A custom-built prop to fit the Franklin >> would, if he decides to go that route, allow him to ditch the adapter. >> >> Graham >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:54 PM PST US From: "M&M Stanley" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/03/05 Hi Tim, Welcome to the group, sounds like you are set up to have some fun. I myself am relatively new to the group and my Piet doesn't look much like an airplane yet. Given time it will, just have to keep plugging away at it bit by bit and one day it will be finished. As you have already noticed, this group has a wealth of information that the members are happy to share with other Piet enthusiasts. So, if you have a question, fire away, someone can probably solve your problem. I think the most important thing is to just keep at it, sometimes your progress will be good, other times not so good, but any progress is a learning experience................keep on Pieting !! Regards Mark S Japan....Typhoon # 14 passing by. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Willis To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 1:13 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/03/05