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1. 12:27 AM - Re: what do you make of this?? (Gary Gower)
2. 12:48 AM - Re: what do you make of this?? (MICHAEL SILVIUS)
3. 03:27 AM - Re: what do you make of this?? (Larry Nelson)
4. 06:21 AM - bouncing around in a Piet (Michael D Cuy)
5. 06:22 AM - Re: Checking in - Superflight - AFS (Rick Holland)
6. 06:26 AM - Re: what do you make of this?? (Rick Holland)
7. 07:10 AM - Re: Don't mind tellin' ya'... (Phillips, Jack)
8. 08:26 AM - what do you make of this?? (santiago morete)
9. 10:06 AM - Re: Checking in - Superflight - AFS (Gary Gower)
10. 12:43 PM - Re: bouncing around in a Piet (Rcaprd@aol.com)
11. 01:16 PM - Re: bouncing around in a Piet (Jim Markle)
12. 02:48 PM - Piet for sale... (Jim Markle)
13. 03:07 PM - Re: Piet for sale... (Alan Lyscars)
14. 05:54 PM - Re: what do you make of this?? (MICHAEL SILVIUS)
15. 06:49 PM - Re: what do you make of this?? (Cinda Gadd)
16. 06:49 PM - Re: what do you make of this?? (Gary Gower)
17. 07:48 PM - Re: what do you make of this?? (Christian Bobka)
18. 07:50 PM - Don't mind tellin' ya' (Ted Brousseau)
19. 08:37 PM - Re: Don't mind tellin' ya' (Jim Markle)
20. 11:11 PM - Re: Don't mind tellin' ya' (Clif Dawson)
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Subject: | Re: what do you make of this?? |
Fortunally there are CERO bid for this dangerous monster...
( I refer to that "thing" not your Piet Larry :-) :-)
Saludos
Gary Gower
Do not archive)
Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson
HEY!!!! He has a picture of MY Piet in his ad!!!!!
--- MICHAEL SILVIUS
wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "MICHAEL
> SILVIUS"
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> he is calling it a Piet???
>
> it is somewhere near me, perhaps I will need to go
> see it???
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Peitenpol-Air-Camper_W0QQitemZ4574517599QQcategoryZ26428QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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> Michael Silvius
> Scarborough, Maine
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Larry Nelson
Springfield, MO
Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A
Cessna 195 N9883A
Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH
1963 GMC 4106-1618
SV/ Spirit of America
ARS WB0JOT
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Subject: | Re: what do you make of this?? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Jim et all:
First of all let me apologize to the list for not properly introducing my
self first. I just came across the e-bay listing for that "thing" and
thought I ought to pass it along at least for the amusement of the
participants here. I have been lurking and receiving the digest form of the
list for some time now and just switched over to the real time list so I can
receive the photos I have been missing up to now.
At any rate, yes I have more than a passing interest in the Pietenpol. I
have started on a GN1, if you can call getting the fuselage sides jig built.
Yes, I know to purist the GN1 is not the real thing but I have had the plans
for I think something like 10 yrs. I came across DJ Vegh's site and it
served as inspiration to do what ever I have to do, to get started on my
own. So I have nothing much to show yet. I had originally intended to build
a Jodel DR1050 ( http://community.webshots.com/album/147451245dhnmgI ) But
for now I have chosen something a bit more basic and generally affordable. I
have a 110 hp Corvair engine pictured in the above link w/ all the right
numbers and specs. I also just scored from e-bay, a N.O.S. crank for the
Corvair as modified by Mr. Pietenpol himself w/ the hub and safety shaft.
Can you believe only $125.00? .
I live just outside of Portland where I make a living as a carpenter. Mostly
finish work, cabinetry and stair work. But sometimes we gota-do what we
gota-do to put food on the table and pay the note on the house. And it is a
new one to us, and has a fantastic 2 story gambrel roofed garage that houses
my wood shop upstairs and is a suitable location to build my dream. Though I
have been living here in the US for nearly 25 yrs I am a native of Venezuela
and thus Spanish is my mother tongue.
So for now I will most likely just sit and listen, and learn as much as I
can form the folks on the list, until I have a question of some sort.
Kind regards:
Michael Silvius in Scarborough, Maine.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: what do you make of this??
> I HOPE I didn't miss the opportunity to see a Piet/Piet Project (your's)
> while I was in Scarborough a few weeks ago?!?!?!
> I'm assuming that if you're on this list you have SOME interest in
> Piets.....or maybe not.
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Subject: | Re: what do you make of this?? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com>
Michael, welcome and good luck with your project.
--- MICHAEL SILVIUS <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "MICHAEL
> SILVIUS" <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
>
> Hi Jim et all:
> First of all let me apologize to the list for not
> properly introducing my
> self first. I just came across the e-bay listing for
> that "thing" and
> thought I ought to pass it along at least for the
> amusement of the
> participants here. I have been lurking and receiving
> the digest form of the
> list for some time now and just switched over to the
> real time list so I can
> receive the photos I have been missing up to now.
>
> At any rate, yes I have more than a passing interest
> in the Pietenpol. I
> have started on a GN1, if you can call getting the
> fuselage sides jig built.
> Yes, I know to purist the GN1 is not the real thing
> but I have had the plans
> for I think something like 10 yrs. I came across DJ
> Vegh's site and it
> served as inspiration to do what ever I have to do,
> to get started on my
> own. So I have nothing much to show yet. I had
> originally intended to build
> a Jodel DR1050 (
> http://community.webshots.com/album/147451245dhnmgI
> ) But
> for now I have chosen something a bit more basic and
> generally affordable. I
> have a 110 hp Corvair engine pictured in the above
> link w/ all the right
> numbers and specs. I also just scored from e-bay, a
> N.O.S. crank for the
> Corvair as modified by Mr. Pietenpol himself w/ the
> hub and safety shaft.
> Can you believe only $125.00? .
>
> I live just outside of Portland where I make a
> living as a carpenter. Mostly
> finish work, cabinetry and stair work. But sometimes
> we gota-do what we
> gota-do to put food on the table and pay the note on
> the house. And it is a
> new one to us, and has a fantastic 2 story gambrel
> roofed garage that houses
> my wood shop upstairs and is a suitable location to
> build my dream. Though I
> have been living here in the US for nearly 25 yrs I
> am a native of Venezuela
> and thus Spanish is my mother tongue.
>
> So for now I will most likely just sit and listen,
> and learn as much as I
> can form the folks on the list, until I have a
> question of some sort.
>
> Kind regards:
>
> Michael Silvius in Scarborough, Maine.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> To: <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: what do you make of
> this??
>
>
> > I HOPE I didn't miss the opportunity to see a
> Piet/Piet Project (your's)
> > while I was in Scarborough a few weeks ago?!?!?!
>
>
> > I'm assuming that if you're on this list you have
> SOME interest in
> > Piets.....or maybe not.
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Larry Nelson
Springfield, MO
Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A
Cessna 195 N9883A
Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH
1963 GMC 4106-1618
SV/ Spirit of America
ARS WB0JOT
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Subject: | bouncing around in a Piet |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Larry-- great to hear you are getting used to your new Pietenpol and that
you were able to fly it to
a nearby fly-in. You're joining the crowd of us who know how gusty days
can be a far different experience
in a Piet than in most any other kind of aircraft. Heat, thermals, wind,
departing aircraft ahead of you---can
all make for some wild stick movements.
Evenings just before sunsets tho are very sweet.
Mike C.
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Checking in - Superflight - AFS |
Thanks for the links to Latex paint info Kirk. Bottom line, it looks like a
few coats of Latex can provide UV protection similiar to a full PolyFiber
job. I plan on using it.
On 9/10/05, Kirk Huizenga <Kirk.Huizenga@moundsviewschools.org> wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kirk Huizenga" <
> Kirk.Huizenga@moundsviewschools.org>
>
> Greeting all,
>
> I'm just poking my head up on the list radar. I have been slowly working
> on our Piet project and was searching through the archives tonight and
> noticed that a few people over the last few years were looking for my email
> address or UV testing info.
>
> Just to get it in the archives again
>
> email - kirkh@unique-software.com
> kirk.huizenga@moundsviewschools.org
> UV testing URL http://mykitplane.com/Planes/filesList2.cfm?AlbumID5
>
> 2 quick questions- is Superflight still around for purchasing Dacron?
> Also, has anyone on the list used the AFS (aircraft Finishing System) for
> covering?
>
> Hope to make Brodhead next year (at least by car).
> Thanks
>
> Kirk
>
>
>
>
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Rick Holland
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Subject: | Re: what do you make of this?? |
Good decision Michael, most everyone goes through that phase when deciding
what plane to build, (Pitts, 3/4 scale P-51, Falco, etc). I know I did. Once
you get into building your Piet you will be very glad that you did not take
on anything more complex as your first project. You won't believe how much
work and money is involved in building even something as "simple" and
"inexpensive" as a Piet.
Rick H
On 9/11/05, MICHAEL SILVIUS <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" <
> M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
>
> Hi Jim et all:
> First of all let me apologize to the list for not properly introducing my
> self first. I just came across the e-bay listing for that "thing" and
> thought I ought to pass it along at least for the amusement of the
> participants here. I have been lurking and receiving the digest form of
> the
> list for some time now and just switched over to the real time list so I
> can
> receive the photos I have been missing up to now.
>
> At any rate, yes I have more than a passing interest in the Pietenpol. I
> have started on a GN1, if you can call getting the fuselage sides jig
> built.
> Yes, I know to purist the GN1 is not the real thing but I have had the
> plans
> for I think something like 10 yrs. I came across DJ Vegh's site and it
> served as inspiration to do what ever I have to do, to get started on my
> own. So I have nothing much to show yet. I had originally intended to
> build
> a Jodel DR1050 ( http://community.webshots.com/album/147451245dhnmgI ) But
> for now I have chosen something a bit more basic and generally affordable.
> I
> have a 110 hp Corvair engine pictured in the above link w/ all the right
> numbers and specs. I also just scored from e-bay, a N.O.S. crank for the
> Corvair as modified by Mr. Pietenpol himself w/ the hub and safety shaft.
> Can you believe only $125.00? .
>
> I live just outside of Portland where I make a living as a carpenter.
> Mostly
> finish work, cabinetry and stair work. But sometimes we gota-do what we
> gota-do to put food on the table and pay the note on the house. And it is
> a
> new one to us, and has a fantastic 2 story gambrel roofed garage that
> houses
> my wood shop upstairs and is a suitable location to build my dream. Though
> I
> have been living here in the US for nearly 25 yrs I am a native of
> Venezuela
> and thus Spanish is my mother tongue.
>
> So for now I will most likely just sit and listen, and learn as much as I
> can form the folks on the list, until I have a question of some sort.
>
> Kind regards:
>
> Michael Silvius in Scarborough, Maine.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> To: <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: what do you make of this??
>
>
> > I HOPE I didn't miss the opportunity to see a Piet/Piet Project (your's)
> > while I was in Scarborough a few weeks ago?!?!?!
>
>
> > I'm assuming that if you're on this list you have SOME interest in
> > Piets.....or maybe not.
>
>
>
>
--
Rick Holland
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Subject: | Don't mind tellin' ya'... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
LOL!!
"...A bird fart has to be reckoned with by control inputs..."
Jack
Waiting for Ophelia to add to the breezy weather we've been having in
North Carolina
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Subject: | what do you make of this?? |
That plane is an Alco Sportplane, not a Pietenpol. Also appeared in the F&GM.
Saludos
Santiago Morete
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Subject: | Re: Checking in - Superflight - AFS |
Rick,
Two or three coats of latex are ok (depends in light or darker colors) then, if
you want a gloss look, just add a coat of clear urethane paint with a little
amount of (we name it here plastifier) they add this to the paint when painting
plastic fenders and car parts (like some Cadillacs), this prevents the urethane
paint from "breaking" with the normal movement of the dacron...
I use this system and has worked now for 6 years so forth in my oldest proyect.
The pilot that advised me, has already 8 years with his finish in perfect
shape.
We fly almost all week ends, and holidays, so no hangar airplane here.(only during
the week days).
Saludos
Gary Gower
Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the links to Latex paint info Kirk. Bottom line, it looks like a few
coats of Latex can provide UV protection similiar to a full PolyFiber job. I
plan on using it.
On 9/10/05, Kirk Huizenga <Kirk.Huizenga@moundsviewschools.org > wrote:--> Pietenpol-List
message posted by: "Kirk Huizenga" < Kirk.Huizenga@moundsviewschools.org>
Greeting all,
I'm just poking my head up on the list radar. I have been slowly working on our
Piet project and was searching through the archives tonight and noticed that
a few people over the last few years were looking for my email address or UV testing
info.
Just to get it in the archives again
email - kirkh@unique-software.com
kirk.huizenga@moundsviewschools.org
UV testing URL http://mykitplane.com/Planes/filesList2.cfm?AlbumID=5
2 quick questions- is Superflight still around for purchasing Dacron? Also, has
anyone on the list used the AFS (aircraft Finishing System) for covering?
Hope to make Brodhead next year (at least by car).
==================================================Pietenpol-List Email Forum -
h more: ===========================================================
--
Rick Holland
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Subject: | Re: bouncing around in a Piet |
Hey Larry,
Bouncy Piet rides are pretty much the norm, here in the Land of Oz (central
Kansas)...except for as Mike C said, just before sunset. The past two Sunday
mornings, I've been flying to Strother Field, about 30 miles to the South, for
Aerobatic instruction in a Decathelon. Both days the winds were 180=BA @ 20 to
30, which was pretty much right down the runway. Mix in the thermals, and
you stir the stick in the Piet almost constantly, and just forget about keeping
accurate heading and altitude. However, I prefer to just ride out the small
upsets, and let 'er just right herself...till the Big thermal comes along,
usually over a brown dirt field. A couple of times I was determined to see=20just
how much the big one would throw her off without a reply on the stick, and it
raised the wing about 30=BA, and turned me 90=BA off heading !! Bouncing around
in
a Piet is just another one of the fun and challenging aspects of being at one
with her. The landing and roll outs in the strong headwinds, were probably
the shortest I've ever done. I truly Love to fly my plane !!
Chuck G.
NX770CG
Flying the Decathelon through loops, spins, slow rolls, and hanging
upside-down on the harness, sure is a different a different animal than I'm=20used
to !!
What a Hoot !!
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Subject: | Re: bouncing around in a Piet |
DNA: do not archive
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Subject: | Piet for sale... |
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Subject: | Re: Piet for sale... |
Jim,
Could you send any pics of the innards to me (offlist)?
Alan Lyscars
Portland, Maine
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Markle
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet for sale...
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle
In the Lancaster, TX (just South of Dallas) area....a Corvair powered Air Camper.
If anyone is interested, I have a lot of pictures of the plane.
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Subject: | Re: what do you make of this?? |
Thanks Santiago:
I passed it on to the man with the listing on e-bay
F&GM???? not sure what it stands for
Gracias:
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: santiago morete
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: what do you make of this??
That plane is an Alco Sportplane, not a Pietenpol. Also appeared in the F&GM.
Saludos
Santiago Morete
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Subject: | Re: what do you make of this?? |
Michael,
Stands for Flying and glider manual, there are 5 of them 1929 to 1933 published
by EAA. They are copies of Modern Mechanics' Flying Manual published in those
years. The Pietenpol aircamper is in the 1932 edition. You can get them from
EAA, worth reading.
Skip
F&GM???? not sure what it stands for
Gracias:
Michael
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Subject: | Re: what do you make of this?? |
Means the EAA reprint of the "Flying & Glider Manuals" from 1928 to 1932, where
the Piet and the Scout where futured... With other great airplanes as well,
a must literature to have for any Homebuilder, is history...,
Saludos
Gary Gower
MICHAEL SILVIUS <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Thanks Santiago:
I passed it on to the man with the listing on e-bay
F&GM???? not sure what it stands for
Gracias:
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: santiago morete
Subject: Pietenpol-List: what do you make of this??
That plane is an Alco Sportplane, not a Pietenpol. Also appeared in the F&GM.
Saludos
Santiago Morete
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Subject: | Re: what do you make of this?? |
Actually, Skip, they were published by Fawcett publications. You really need
to see some originals as they have a lot more stuff in them.
Chris
Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren
----- Original Message -----
From: Cinda Gadd
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: what do you make of this??
Michael,
Stands for Flying and glider manual, there are 5 of them 1929 to 1933 published
by EAA. They are copies of Modern Mechanics' Flying Manual published in those
years. The Pietenpol aircamper is in the 1932 edition. You can get them from
EAA, worth reading.
Skip
F&GM???? not sure what it stands for
Gracias:
Michael
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Subject: | Don't mind tellin' ya' |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
Larry,
I have over 400 hours in the Piet, 1600 hours in taildraggers and teach
tailwheel transition. Every landing is different in a Piet. Nothing ever
gets automatic. When I flew to Brodhead in 99 it was difficult to make two
good landings in row. Each landing was different because the color of the
runways and white numbers and the heat was different at each one. Each one
felt like you were riding a bronco. You fly this plane to the tiedown on
windy days.
Ted
P.S. the bird farts are really aggravating when the bird is ahead of you
soaring along for a while without moving its wings.
> Time: 09:01:35 AM PST US
> From: Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Don't mind tellin' ya'...
>
> Just blathering here. Needless to say...she is light.
> A bird fart has to be reckoned with by control inputs.
> I trust I will eventually get used to this and
> everything will be automatic, like landing the 195
> which used to caused considerable pucker factor.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Don't mind tellin' ya' |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
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> Ted
>
> P.S. the bird farts are really aggravating when the bird is ahead of you
> soaring along for a while without moving its wings.
And when he's behind you he ends up running into your trailing edge....you
just can't win.....
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<003501c5b812$a0c7fbf0$6501a8c0@demoprimus>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
DUCK!!
Here comes another flock!
Clif
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle"
> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
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>> Ted
>>
>> P.S. the bird farts are really aggravating when the bird is ahead of you
>> soaring along for a while without moving its wings.
>
> And when he's behind you he ends up running into your trailing edge....you
> just can't win.....
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