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1. 01:06 AM - Re: Brodhead (clem)
2. 05:40 AM - rib stitching (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 05:55 AM - Re: rib stitching (Phillips, Jack)
4. 07:05 AM - rib stitching (Michael D Cuy)
5. 07:11 AM - Re: rib stitching (Lou Wither)
6. 07:23 AM - tailwheel school opens in Florida.... (Michael D Cuy)
7. 09:34 AM - Re: tailwheel endorsements (Lou Wither)
8. 11:20 AM - OFF LIST Friends near road 45 to Dallas HELP Do not archive. (Gary Gower)
9. 12:45 PM - tail hinge stiffeners (Nick Harris)
10. 02:00 PM - Re: rib stitching (walt evans)
11. 03:31 PM - Re: Video Now Available: Flying NX770CG (Rcaprd@aol.com)
12. 04:43 PM - Re: Video Now Available: Flying NX770CG (Isablcorky@aol.com)
13. 08:02 PM - Re: TRANSFER PUNCHES (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
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The two New Zealanders - Clem & Dave - drove across USA in a rental car, 5550 miles.
We met some wonderful people during our trip . A special thanks to Carl
and Ann Lekven for their offers of hospitality. We met amazing people at Brodhead.
It was great to meet the people I have followed on this site over the
years. I loved Lowell Frank's radial engined Piet.
Regards
Clem Boyd
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I've got my rib stiching technique down, having just finished the tail feathers.
Now I'm ready to start the wings and would appreciate any helpful suggestions.
My basic plan is to prop one up on edge and with a helper on each side, pass
the needles through back and forth. This sounds good, but I'm not sure how
the person can find the hole on the other side as they pass the needle through.
I've been advised to do three needles/ribs at the same time, which makes
a lot of sense.
I know once we start, we'll figure these things out, but I like to stand on anyone's
shoulders whenver possible.
Thanks, hope you're all well!!
Douwe
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Hi Douwe,
I assume you will pre-punch all your needle holes before beginning
rib-lacing? That makes it much easier. If you have a bright light
shining on the surface it will make it easier for the person on the
other side to find the hole.
I stitched mine by myself, with the wing resting falt on saw horses.
That makes it easier in one way, because the person looking for the
needle is also manipulating the needle. However, moving back and forth
from above the wing to below the wing gets pretty hard on your back. I
stitched the first wing in 12 hours continuous work, just stopping for
beer (input and output). The next morning I could hardly get out of
bed. The second wing took about 3 days, with shorter work intervals
(and longer breaks).
For all the talk on the list about trying to find alternatives to
rib-stitching, I found it to be an enjoybale part of the building
process.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib stitching
I've got my rib stiching technique down, having just finished the tail
feathers. Now I'm ready to start the wings and would appreciate any
helpful suggestions. My basic plan is to prop one up on edge and with a
helper on each side, pass the needles through back and forth. This
sounds good, but I'm not sure how the person can find the hole on the
other side as they pass the needle through. I've been advised to do
three needles/ribs at the same time, which makes a lot of sense.
I know once we start, we'll figure these things out, but I like to stand
on anyone's shoulders whenver possible.
Thanks, hope you're all well!!
Douwe
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Douwe-- good to hear you've got the hang of stitching.
I did not have anyone around to help and simply had the wing panels on saw
horses with a trouble light clamped to a five gallon bucket
below with wing, pointing up thru the fabric. This let me see the opposing
hole/mark very well. (with all pre-punched holes you can
see quite well inside the wing and where your needles are at.
I did one rib at a time since I only had one needle but it went fairly
quickly. I think I took about 35-45 minutes per rib.
I hope you're using the hidden knot method as this makes your tapes lay
down really nice and smooth over each rib with no air bubbles
or big bumps from the knots/lace cord. Totally a matter of aesthetics,
but I found it to be so little extra work that I went that route.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: rib stitching |
When we stitched ours, I hung the wings from the ceiling in a sling. This allowed
me to vertically move the wing to where it was comfortable, little back bending.
I laid out the stitching pattern on one rib and transfer ed that pattern with a
flexible stick, about 1/4" thick and 1" wide. I didn't pre-punch holes.
I had a friend work the lower side of the wing, or essentially the return side
of the stitch. I did the knot on the upper surface. All-in-all it came out pretty
good for the first time.
The first wing took two of us 9 hours with one lunch break, we were able to cut
that to 8 hours on the second wing. From what I hear, this is pretty much the
average time needed to accomplish this task.
Lou
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| Subject: | tailwheel school opens in Florida.... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
for any in central Florida interested in getting TW time or sign-offs.
Mike C.
http://www.cubair.org/
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| Subject: | Re: tailwheel endorsements |
For those in Northeast Pennsylvania and Southern NY. Charlie Gay at Skyhaven Airport
in Tuncanock, PA gives tailwheel endorsements in a J-3.
I found it pretty tough to find someone that would give the training and let me
solo. You can solo the J-3 at Skyhaven.
Lou
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| Subject: | OFF LIST Friends near road 45 to Dallas HELP Do |
not archive.
Dear Friends,
I am asking you a BIG favor... my youngest daughter (15) now visiting with
my Sister in Law in Houston are going out to Dallas because of Rita...
Well, they left Missouri City (South of Houston) and 10.00 PM last night, today
(22) at 9:00 am (Last time that could contact by cell phone) they were still
in North Houston Area!!!! 11 hrs later., not even out of Houston!
They have a place to stay with friends in Dallas, They carry some water (how much?
dont know) and snacks, but at this driving speed, I dont know when they
could reach Dallas.... The Cell phones sends me to the message area, no answer.
(I know to much calls form all over, to much for the system).
Yes I am woried, VERY Woried The biggest problem I see is gasoline for the minivan
... and maybe some drinking water or food... so they can continue.
Please, If some of you live near 45, I will appreciate you phone number off list.
I will try to contact them by their cel phone...
If you give them some gasoline or food or what ever, I will gladly pay you for
the expenses.from here, I know is not going to be easy to find them, But this
is the only thing I can think off.
I am sure this is going to be a real problem not only for my family but to all
the people from Galveston and Houston there...
Help as you can (all of this people) they need it and they can do nothing more
there but keep driving for their lifes... Then drive back to see what they
find about their houses. Hope Rita loose force and do as low damage as possible...
Thank you all in advance.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
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| Subject: | tail hinge stiffeners |
Hi all,
Could aluminum be used in the place of the 1/8" ply where the hinges mount
on the tail. I have a bunch of aluminum handy.
Thanks
Nick Harris
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| Subject: | Re: rib stitching |
Douwe,
I did mine all myself. Guess it took alittle longer, but this way I could start
and stop when needed. The leading and trailing edge where it wasn't under cambered,
did with a long needle. Since the under cambered /under wing has to be
done before the final tightening at full temp, I just stood the wing up against
a wall resting on the leading edge, and used a curved needle to stitch the
material right to the rib. (Not all the way thru). This sucked the material into
the rib curve. I'm very pleased the way it came out.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Douwe Blumberg
To: pietenpolgroup
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:54 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib stitching
I've got my rib stiching technique down, having just finished the tail feathers.
Now I'm ready to start the wings and would appreciate any helpful suggestions.
My basic plan is to prop one up on edge and with a helper on each side,
pass the needles through back and forth. This sounds good, but I'm not sure
how the person can find the hole on the other side as they pass the needle through.
I've been advised to do three needles/ribs at the same time, which makes
a lot of sense.
I know once we start, we'll figure these things out, but I like to stand on anyone's
shoulders whenver possible.
Thanks, hope you're all well!!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Video Now Available: Flying NX770CG |
In a message dated 9/21/2005 8:01:49 AM Central Standard Time,
at7000ft@gmail.com writes:
Do you have a PayPal account Chuck?
Rick
No, I haven't got a PayPal account. Wouldn't even know how to set one up.
That's why I figured anyone who is interested could just e-mail me directly,
and send a Check, or Money Order to my home address, along with your return
address, and I'll get the DVD video out in the mail to you. Like I said, this
is
an ongoing project, and I thought I'd send out this Version 1 at the
introductory price of $15, and get some feedback on how I might improve the video.
I
have lots of stuff in mind to add, but I need some input from others, because
so far, I'm the only one who has ever seen the entire video !!
Chuck Gantzer
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: Video Now Available: Flying NX770CG |
Thought I read that if I requested you would send me your address so I could
send you a famous La Hot check for your video. Still haven't heard from you.
Corky (Still dry in NW Louisiana)
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| Subject: | Re: TRANSFER PUNCHES |
I just got a Harbor Freight catalog today and the Transfer Punches are on sale
for $ 4.99.
Dennis
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