---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/23/05: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:38 AM - Re: rib stitching (Kirk Huizenga) 2. 09:14 AM - rib stitching (Oscar Zuniga) 3. 10:49 AM - Route 45 To Dallas They got there OK... (Gary Gower) 4. 12:13 PM - Re: Route 45 To Dallas They got there OK... (RULE, HARVEY) 5. 12:19 PM - Making a line longer than your straight edge, Oshkosh pictures (Dave Case) 6. 07:30 PM - rib stitching (Ted Brousseau) 7. 10:02 PM - Re: rib stitching (Rcaprd@aol.com) 8. 10:32 PM - Re: tail hinge stiffeners (Rcaprd@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:28 AM PST US From: Kirk Huizenga Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: rib stitching --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kirk Huizenga Douwe, When I helped with someone else's wing, under the supervision of a master rib stitcher (he has taught classes at OSH), I learned to look through the hole above the one being used to pass the needle through. You need to have all your holes pre-punched and it seems to work best if the item you are stitching vertical with a bright light illuminating both sides. It takes a little practice to figure out where your eye needs to be (it is pretty close to the fabric) and how to look down and across at the opposing hole. If this doesn't make sense I'll try to explain it more clearly and with some pictures later. Kirk Douwe Blumberg wrote: > I've got my rib stiching technique down, having just finished the tail > feathers. Now I'm ready to start the wings and would appreciate any > helpful suggestions. My basic plan is to prop one up on edge and with > a helper on each side, pass the needles through back and forth. This > sounds good, but I'm not sure how the person can find the hole on the > other side as they pass the needle through. I've been advised to do > three needles/ribs at the same time, which makes a lot of sense. > > I know once we start, we'll figure these things out, but I like to > stand on anyone's shoulders whenver possible. > > Thanks, hope you're all well!! > > Douwe ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:03 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib stitching --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" Well, having just learned how to rib stitch myself, I will say that I did it the way Corky had originally done it on the vertical stab... marked the stitch locations and then fired up my pointy little soldering iron to melt little holes in the fabric at each stitch location. Made it real easy to see through and pass the needle through, and super easy to pull in the knots to hide them. I didn't even try NOT pre-punching the holes and it would seem to me to be a lot harder to pull the knots inside to hide them if you don't pre-punch. Did the same thing with the bolt holes... melted them through the fabric with my soldering iron prior to Poly-Spray and Poly-Tone. Turned out swell. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:26 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Pietenpol-List: Route 45 To Dallas They got there OK... Hello Friends, Thank you all very much from all my family for your support and prayers, My daughter, and my Sister in Law family, got to Dallas safe to a friends house, at about 11:30 this morning There were 39 hours in the road, without talking to them, but finally got her in the phone. Once more, I really appreciate this friendship from all of you very much. Saludos Gary Gower Do not archive. --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:05 PM PST US From: "RULE, HARVEY" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Route 45 To Dallas They got there OK... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "RULE, HARVEY" Some old folks didn't make it,unfortunately their bus burned up with them in it.Some made it out.Good to hear you family is OK .Pray for those that will not make it ! Gary Gower wrote: > > Hello Friends, > > Thank you all very much from all my family for your support and > prayers, My daughter, and my Sister in Law family, got to Dallas > safe to a friends house, at about 11:30 this morning > > There were 39 hours in the road, without talking to them, but > finally got her in the phone. > > Once more, I really appreciate this friendship from all of you very > much. > > Saludos > Gary Gower > Do not archive. > > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:43 PM PST US From: Dave Case Subject: Pietenpol-List: Making a line longer than your straight edge, Oshkosh pictures --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave Case I was wandering around the hardware store, trying to find an aluminum extrusion at least 5 feet long (thanks for the idea btw) not succeeding... Then it came to me, inspiration! What defines a line? 2 points! My jig board is 5.5 feet long, so if I drill 2 holes, both 19 inches from the long ends, then put a nail in each hole (the nail being slightly wider than the hole, so it fits very snugly) I can put my yardstick on the nails and move it back and forth enough to draw one continuous line from one end of the board to the other. It worked really well too. If anyone is interested, I have a few pictures I took at Oshkosh of that Sky Scout wing that people were talking about a few weeks ago (the one with the 1/4" x 1/4" cap strips) on my website (www.builddiary.net). Just follow the links on the left. Also a few shots of Icarus Plummet and the original pietenpol they have on display. -- David Case Dav3xor@gmail.com www.builddiary.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:12 PM PST US From: "Ted Brousseau" Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib stitching --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" Wow Jack, that must have been one heck of a hangover after 3 days of stitching . Ted Do not archive. > Time: 05:55:10 AM PST US > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: rib stitching > From: "Phillips, Jack" > > Hi Douwe, > > > I assume you will pre-punch all your needle holes before beginning > rib-lacing? That makes it much easier. If you have a bright light > shining on the surface it will make it easier for the person on the > other side to find the hole. > > > I stitched mine by myself, with the wing resting falt on saw horses. > That makes it easier in one way, because the person looking for the > needle is also manipulating the needle. However, moving back and forth > from above the wing to below the wing gets pretty hard on your back. I > stitched the first wing in 12 hours continuous work, just stopping for > beer (input and output). The next morning I could hardly get out of > bed. The second wing took about 3 days, with shorter work intervals > (and longer breaks). > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:05 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: rib stitching Douwe, It's pretty easy to make additional Long Needles, out of a piece of steel welding rod of the appropriate diameter. Just taper a long sharp point on one end, and flatten the other end with the hammer and anvil, then drill a hole in the flattened end to pass the thread through. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:32:07 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail hinge stiffeners In a message dated 9/22/2005 2:48:24 PM Central Standard Time, nharris25@yahoo.com writes: Could aluminum be used in the place of the 1/8" ply where the hinges mount on the tail. I have a bunch of aluminum handy. I would have to say No. Moisture will collect between the aluminum & wood, and it just isn't going to use up much of your scrap. It's just too easy to follow the plans method here. Chuck G.