---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/25/05: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:02 AM - Pietenpol Rebuild Webpage (Bill Church) 2. 09:02 AM - New to List - Questions on Glueing (Chris Clarke) 3. 09:52 AM - rib stitching (Douwe Blumberg) 4. 10:15 AM - Re: New to List - Questions on Glueing (Ben Charvet) 5. 11:37 AM - cockpit entrance door (RULE, HARVEY) 6. 01:41 PM - Re: New to List - Questions on Glueing () 7. 05:52 PM - Re: New to List - Questions on Glueing (Peter W Johnson) 8. 06:06 PM - Re: trimble instructions (Wizzard187@aol.com) 9. 06:06 PM - Re: cockpit entrance door (Tuu2Tango@aol.com) 10. 06:13 PM - Re: cockpit entrance door (Tuu2Tango@aol.com) 11. 10:02 PM - Re: trimble instructions (Rcaprd@aol.com) 12. 10:03 PM - Tailwheels (Irwin Fust) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:40 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Rebuild Webpage From: "Bill Church" Just stumbled across this webpage with a bunch of photos detailing the rebuild of a Piet. http://www.wardsauctions.com/images/Pietenpol/index.htm Bill ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:43 AM PST US From: "Chris Clarke" Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to List - Questions on Glueing Hi Everyone, I am new to the list and have just started building my piet. I was quite inspired by the video by Michael Cuy. Amazing job on that airplane Michael. I have just a few questions on glueing which I'm certain has been asked enough already. First, I am using T-88 Epoxy for all the glueing. I have laid up the fuselage side and am ready to glue the first side. How have people mixed this stuff before? It says 1:1 mixture, so have people used scales or just graduated mixing cups. My thought was to use the 4 oz. graduated mixing cups, but will that be accurate enough or should I use a scale. Of course the most appropriate and accurate mixture is what I am trying to achieve. Second, in terms of pressure for the T-88 to set, I think it is just enough pressure to keep firm contact and squeeze out a bit on the sides. Is this correct Anyway I thank anyone for their input on this Cheers, Chris Clarke PS: I am trying to post regular progress on mykitplane.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:00 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib stitching Hi guys, I want to thank you all for the excellent ideas. It's time like this that the group really shines, real "hands on" ideas!! I'm getting the hang of it, I havn't tried the soldering gun thing, but think I will, plus that would really let me see through the hole easily. And Mike, yes I am hiding the knots! Douwe ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:56 AM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New to List - Questions on Glueing --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Charvet Welcome to the list Chris, I use small medicine cups that I bought at an independant pharmacy to measure my T-88. Most of the quantities you will mix will be much smaller than 4 ounces at at time. These cups I'm talking about only hold about an ounce, but they have graduations on the sides that make it possible to mix up varying quantities evenly. I also have a site on mykitplanes, if you want to check my progress. You will find loads of good information with this group and in the archives. I nailed my gussets in place using aircraft nails until the glue hardened (overnight) Ben Charvet Mims, Fl Chris Clarke wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to the list and have just started building my piet. I > was quite inspired by the video by Michael Cuy. Amazing job on that > airplane Michael. I have just a few questions on glueing which I'm > certain has been asked enough already. > > First, I am using T-88 Epoxy for all the glueing. I have laid up > the fuselage side and am ready to glue the first side. How have > people mixed this stuff before? It says 1:1 mixture, so have people > used scales or just graduated mixing cups. My thought was to use the 4 > oz. graduated mixing cups, but will that be accurate enough or should > I use a scale. Of course the most appropriate and accurate mixture is > what I am trying to achieve. > > Second, in terms of pressure for the T-88 to set, I think it is just > enough pressure to keep firm contact and squeeze out a bit on > the sides. Is this correct Anyway I thank anyone for their input on this > > Cheers, > > Chris Clarke > > PS: I am trying to post regular progress on mykitplane.com > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:37:17 AM PST US From: "RULE, HARVEY" Subject: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "RULE, HARVEY" I have installed a cockpit entrance door or what I call a flop door which is hinged to the wing just behind the top gas tank.I was wondering if anyone had one of these and what they used to latch it down.I have all kinds of ideas but I'd like to see what others have done as well,thanks for any info passed along. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:41:36 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New to List - Questions on Glueing Graduated mixing cups or syringes work well. Weighing is unnecessary. Do not mix in waxed cups. The wax will weaken the glue joint. You are correct regarding the gluing pressure. Just enough to maintain tight contact of the assembly. Watch closely after clamping, the T-88 is slippery and your assembly might move around before the adhesive has a chance to set. Greg Cardinal Minneapolis ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Clarke To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 11:03 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to List - Questions on Glueing Hi Everyone, I am new to the list and have just started building my piet. I was quite inspired by the video by Michael Cuy. Amazing job on that airplane Michael. I have just a few questions on glueing which I'm certain has been asked enough already. First, I am using T-88 Epoxy for all the glueing. I have laid up the fuselage side and am ready to glue the first side. How have people mixed this stuff before? It says 1:1 mixture, so have people used scales or just graduated mixing cups. My thought was to use the 4 oz. graduated mixing cups, but will that be accurate enough or should I use a scale. Of course the most appropriate and accurate mixture is what I am trying to achieve. Second, in terms of pressure for the T-88 to set, I think it is just enough pressure to keep firm contact and squeeze out a bit on the sides. Is this correct Anyway I thank anyone for their input on this Cheers, Chris Clarke PS: I am trying to post regular progress on mykitplane.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:11 PM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New to List - Questions on Glueing Chris, I measured mine T-88 by squeezing out equal lengths on a ceramic tile. Mixed it up with plastic picnic knives. Use two or more =93lines=94 of each for more glue! Cheers Peter Wonthaggi, Australia HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/"http://www.cpc-world.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Clarke Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to List - Questions on Glueing Hi Everyone, I am new to the list and have just started building my piet. I was quite inspired by the video by Michael Cuy. Amazing job on that airplane Michael. I have just a few questions on glueing which I'm certain has been asked enough already. First, I am using T-88 Epoxy for all the glueing. I have laid up the fuselage side and am ready to glue the first side. How have people mixed this stuff before? It says 1:1 mixture, so have people used scales or just graduated mixing cups. My thought was to use the 4 oz. graduated mixing cups, but will that be accurate enough or should I use a scale. Of course the most appropriate and accurate mixture is what I am trying to achieve. Second, in terms of pressure for the T-88 to set, I think it is just enough pressure to keep firm contact and squeeze out a bit on the sides. Is this correct Anyway I thank anyone for their input on this Cheers, Chris Clarke PS: I am trying to post regular progress on mykitplane.com -- -- ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:02 PM PST US From: Wizzard187@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: trimble instructions Pieters: I bought a trimble flightmate pro gps at a fly market and would like to get some instructions on operating it. I have gone thru $8.00 worth of battries but need some instructions before I go broke. I tried Trimble on the internet but got lost before I found what I needed. Any help would be appreciated. Ken Conrad in depressed Iowa after playing Ohio State ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:36 PM PST US From: Tuu2Tango@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door DJ Vegh of Mesa, Arizona built a nifty cockpit door on his GN-1. He has an extensive builder's log on the internet and I think there are several pictures of his cockpit door. Doo a Google search for DJ VEGH GN-1 LOG. Forgot his website... One of his e-mail addresses is _info@imagedv.com_ (mailto:info@imagedv.com) , but I think he abandoned the project and dropped out of sight not answering e-mails and he is selling his airplane... so I don't know how much longer his builder's log will be available on-line. Roy ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:13:25 PM PST US From: Tuu2Tango@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door _http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/GN1-log-001.html_ (http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/GN1-log-001.html) DJ Vegh's extensive log... Might find the info on the door here. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:02:44 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: trimble instructions Ken, If you didn't get an operators manual, or a 12v adapter, you might be outa luck. I have a Magellan Skyblazer, but it is not supported any longer by Magellan, and upgrades are no longer available. It works just fine, but upgrades like frequencies, FBO's, and lots of other stuff have to be confirmed from the airport directories. This seems to be common among all older GPS units, no matter what make. They want us to buy new ones. My Magellan GPS runs on three D cell batteries, but they don't last very long, and it crapped out on me quite a few times during cross country flights. It's not possible for me to change batteries in flight. That's why my primary navigation aid will ALWAYS be the good old charts, and a highlighter. I have since added a 12v battery to run the GPS, Icom Handheld com radio, and the smoke pump. Ever since I put the GPS on the 12v battery, I have been able to use it to navigate with, and it has not let me down. I can program in the departure, way points, and destination, but the thing is, I really had to be in the air, and using it, before I really understood how it works, and got a handle on using it. Another problem I have with the GPS is that when it is turned on, it interferes with the handheld radio reception. I will try a remote antenna on the handheld to see if that helps. Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:03:41 PM PST US From: Irwin Fust Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailwheels --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Irwin Fust Hello folks, I am the proud new owner of a Pietenpol project and I am also new to this list. My Piet is about 70% complete and I'm trying to make some decisions on how to proceed with its completion. I've never built an airplane before and I don't know what the heck I'm doing but I'm plugging along. With enough time, patience and acquired knowledge I hope to be flying it in about a year. The plane was originally built for a Ford engine (163 inches long) but now has a Cont. A65-8 on it. I plan on changing the tailwheel to either a Lang steerable or a Raven lockable wheel. Question: Has anyone on the list had any experience with the lockable wheel and will it work well on the Pietenpol? Thanks for any advice you can give. I have been told that there is a lot of Pietenpol knowledge on this list. I hope to tap into it and make my plane a safer aircraft when finished. By the way, my other plane is a 1946 Aeronca Chief that I've flown all around the west coast for the past 4 years. My home field is Red Bluff, CA and there is another Piet on the field. Luckily I have something to fly while I finish the Pietenpol. Thanks again, Irwin