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1. 02:53 AM - Re: cockpit entrance door (Clif Dawson)
2. 03:31 AM - Re: cockpit entrance door (Peter W Johnson)
3. 04:45 AM - Re: Tailwheels (Phillips, Jack)
4. 04:47 AM - Re: cockpit entrance door (Tuu2Tango@aol.com)
5. 05:17 AM - Re: cockpit entrance door (dmott9@aol.com)
6. 07:42 AM - Re: trimble instructions (Mark)
7. 08:21 AM - Re: cockpit entrance door (RULE, HARVEY)
8. 09:02 AM - Re: cockpit entrance door (DJ Vegh)
9. 09:28 AM - Re: cockpit entrance door (RULE, HARVEY)
10. 11:41 AM - Re: cockpit entrance door (RULE, HARVEY)
11. 02:40 PM - Re: cockpit entrance door (Isablcorky@aol.com)
12. 04:15 PM - Re: cockpit entrance door (Jim Malley)
13. 05:36 PM - Re: cockpit entrance door (Graham Hansen)
14. 07:17 PM - corvair heads / progress report (tmbrant1@netzero.com)
15. 08:48 PM - Re: Tailwheels (Dick Navratil)
16. 10:42 PM - Route 45 To Dallas They got Back to Houston Do not Archive. (Gary Gower)
17. 11:01 PM - Re: Tailwheels (Catdesign)
18. 11:08 PM - Re: New to List - Questions on Glueing (Catdesign)
19. 11:15 PM - Re: cockpit entrance door (Catdesign)
20. 11:45 PM - Re: dj's site (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: cockpit entrance door |
I tried this three times in the last couple of hours with
"page could not be found" on all three tries.
This brings up a point. Here we have had a resource of photo
material which is now lost.
It seems to me that a third party site such as mykitplane is a
better bet than our own sites. Once photos are up they're not
likely to disappear if someone drops out, dies or whatever.
Another answer might be that some of us save all these images
to a disc file. I'm sure that others besides myself have saved
images of interest and that for each of us they would be, to
some extent, different ones.
There are more than 600 photos as well as drawings and articles
relating to Pietenpol construction and finished planes on mykitplane.
Quite a few of which are of older, foreign, and offline planes like the
"Limington series,Kin series,EM series, Doug Hunt series,Detail pictures(199)"
How many more are spread about all over the place?
Clif
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/GN1-log-001.html
DJ Vegh's extensive log... Might find the info on the door here.
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| Subject: | cockpit entrance door |
Cliff,
Try the correct url=85http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/About.htm
Peter
Wonthaggi, Australia
HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/"http://www.cpc-world.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif Dawson
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
I tried this three times in the last couple of hours with
"page could not be found" on all three tries.
This brings up a point. Here we have had a resource of photo
material which is now lost.
It seems to me that a third party site such as mykitplane is a
better bet than our own sites. Once photos are up they're not
likely to disappear if someone drops out, dies or whatever.
Another answer might be that some of us save all these images
to a disc file. I'm sure that others besides myself have saved
images of interest and that for each of us they would be, to
some extent, different ones.
There are more than 600 photos as well as drawings and articles
relating to Pietenpol construction and finished planes on mykitplane.
Quite a few of which are of older, foreign, and offline planes like the
"Limington series,Kin series,EM series, Doug Hunt series,Detail
pictures(199)"
How many more are spread about all over the place?
Clif
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
HYPERLINK
"http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/GN1-log-001.html"http://www.imagedv.co
m/aircamper/log/GN1-log-001.html
DJ Vegh's extensive log... Might find the info on the door here.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Hi Irwin,
Congratulations on acquiring a Pietenpol project. Sounds like you're
well on your way to getting it flying.
I've had no experience with a locking tailwheel, but I used to have a
Lang on a J-3 Cub. It was the best tailwheel I've ever flown. I had a
Maule on a Cessna 140 and had a world of trouble with it. I've had a
Scott and a ACS Homebuilder's special on my Pietenpol. Both have given
some trouble. When I finaly get tired of fooling with the
"Homebuilder's Special" I will put a Lang on the Piet.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
"Icarus Plummet"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Irwin
Fust
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailwheels
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Irwin Fust <ifust@digitalpath.net>
Hello folks,
I am the proud new owner of a Pietenpol project and I am also new to
this list. My Piet is about 70% complete and I'm trying to make some
decisions on how to proceed with its completion. I've never built an
airplane before and I don't know what the heck I'm doing but I'm
plugging along. With enough time, patience and acquired knowledge I
hope to be flying it in about a year. The plane was originally built
for a Ford engine (163 inches long) but now has a Cont. A65-8 on it. I
plan on changing the tailwheel to either a Lang steerable or a Raven
lockable wheel. Question: Has anyone on the list had any experience
with the lockable wheel and will it work well on the Pietenpol?
Thanks for any advice you can give. I have been told that there is a
lot of Pietenpol knowledge on this list. I hope to tap into it and
make my plane a safer aircraft when finished.
By the way, my other plane is a 1946 Aeronca Chief that I've flown all
around the west coast for the past 4 years. My home field is Red
Bluff, CA and there is another Piet on the field. Luckily I have
something to fly while I finish the Pietenpol.
Thanks again,
Irwin
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| Subject: | Re: cockpit entrance door |
The "cut and paste" from DJ Vegh's website clipped one letter.
Try this one...
_http://imagedv.com/aircamperlog/GNa-log-003.htm_
(http://imagedv.com/aircamperlog/GNa-log-003.htm)
If that doesn't work (sorry) just do a Google search for DJ VEGH AIRCAMPER.
His website beats anything I've seen online in regard to a builder's log.
You won't be disappointed.
Roy
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| Subject: | Re: cockpit entrance door |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dmott9@aol.com
Try this one: (or just put in DJ VEGH AIRCAMPER into Google)
http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/gallery.htm
-dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Tuu2Tango@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
The "cut and paste" from DJ Vegh's website clipped one letter.
Try this one...
http://imagedv.com/aircamperlog/GNa-log-003.htm
If that doesn't work (sorry) just do a Google search for DJ VEGH
AIRCAMPER.
His website beats anything I've seen online in regard to a builder's
log. You won't be disappointed.
Roy
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| Subject: | Re: trimble instructions |
SpamAssassin (score=-2.599, required 3, autolearn=not spam,
BAYES_00 -2.60)
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark <aerialphotos@dp.net>
Wizzard187@aol.com wrote:
> Pieters: I bought a trimble flightmate pro gps at a fly market and
> would like to get some instructions on operating it. I have gone
> thru $8.00 worth of battries but need some instructions before I go
> broke. I tried Trimble on the internet but got lost before I found
> what I needed. Any help would be appreciated. Ken Conrad in
> depressed Iowa after playing Ohio State
Mine worked great as a basic GPS unit for a long time but its not
supported anymore. As far as your battery issue, its one of the big
weaknesses of the unit. What I did is buy rechargeables. Though they
only work for about 1/2 as long at a time, after you buy two sets or so,
you have enough to do what ever you like. Changing them in flight is
doable, but not really easy. If I was going to make a long trip, Id
throw in a fresh set of alkaline batteries before take off and never had
a problem.
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| Subject: | Re: cockpit entrance door |
<8C790AB4849DA5F-ED0-19AA4@FWM-R36.sysops.aol.com>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "RULE, HARVEY" <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Excellent web page however he doesn't show or give the hold down
mechanism for the door.I have fired off a letter to him about
this,thanks a million for the web site.
dmott9@aol.com wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dmott9@aol.com
>
> Try this one: (or just put in DJ VEGH AIRCAMPER into Google)
>
> http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/gallery.htm
>
> -dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tuu2Tango@aol.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 07:47:11 EDT
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
>
> The "cut and paste" from DJ Vegh's website clipped one letter.
>
> Try this one...
>
> http://imagedv.com/aircamperlog/GNa-log-003.htm
>
> If that doesn't work (sorry) just do a Google search for DJ VEGH
> AIRCAMPER.
>
> His website beats anything I've seen online in regard to a builder's
> log. You won't be disappointed.
>
> Roy
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: cockpit entrance door |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
Don't worry guys. I have not decided to sell the project or abandon the
website. I was merely considering what I might be able to get if I DID
sell.
And... even if I did sell the project the website would FOREVER remain. I
will never let that die.
About the cockpit door.... I believe there are somepics on my site which
show that. I have not yet engineered the latching machnism.
DJ Vegh
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
----- Original Message -----
From: "RULE, HARVEY" <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "RULE, HARVEY" <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
>
> Excellent web page however he doesn't show or give the hold down
> mechanism for the door.I have fired off a letter to him about
> this,thanks a million for the web site.
>
> dmott9@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dmott9@aol.com
> >
> > Try this one: (or just put in DJ VEGH AIRCAMPER into Google)
> >
> > http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/gallery.htm
> >
> > -dennis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tuu2Tango@aol.com
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > Sent: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 07:47:11 EDT
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
> >
> > The "cut and paste" from DJ Vegh's website clipped one letter.
> >
> > Try this one...
> >
> > http://imagedv.com/aircamperlog/GNa-log-003.htm
> >
> > If that doesn't work (sorry) just do a Google search for DJ VEGH
> > AIRCAMPER.
> >
> > His website beats anything I've seen online in regard to a builder's
> > log. You won't be disappointed.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: cockpit entrance door |
<8C790AB4849DA5F-ED0-19AA4@FWM-R36.sysops.aol.com>
<433811E4.985DDF01@bell.ca>
<007301c5c2b3$8221e0c0$0564a8c0@rdci.az.home.com>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "RULE, HARVEY" <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
I thought of just using ordinary door bolts at the ends where it could
bolt to the other wing ends(trailing edges).One of the other guys
suggested another hinge underneith at the under leading edge with a pin
to remove in order to flip the door.However someone else said that
unless the hinges where in a place of srength then it wouldn't be a real
good idea.Latches at the edges of either side of the under leading edge
is another idea.Latches at the trailing egde another idea.A dome button
for the top of my helmet to hold it down(just kidding)!A seat belt
connection at the trailing edge and just latch it in with the rest of
the belts(would cause some drag)(might even buzz behind the head and
drive one crazy).Clamps at either side of the trailing edge but it would
really look ugly.Still thinking on a way to do it.
DJ Vegh wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
>
> Don't worry guys. I have not decided to sell the project or abandon the
> website. I was merely considering what I might be able to get if I DID
> sell.
>
> And... even if I did sell the project the website would FOREVER remain. I
> will never let that die.
>
> About the cockpit door.... I believe there are somepics on my site which
> show that. I have not yet engineered the latching machnism.
>
> DJ Vegh
> www.imagedv.com/aircamper
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RULE, HARVEY" <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "RULE, HARVEY" <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
> >
> > Excellent web page however he doesn't show or give the hold down
> > mechanism for the door.I have fired off a letter to him about
> > this,thanks a million for the web site.
> >
> > dmott9@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dmott9@aol.com
> > >
> > > Try this one: (or just put in DJ VEGH AIRCAMPER into Google)
> > >
> > > http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/gallery.htm
> > >
> > > -dennis
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tuu2Tango@aol.com
> > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > > Sent: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 07:47:11 EDT
> > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
> > >
> > > The "cut and paste" from DJ Vegh's website clipped one letter.
> > >
> > > Try this one...
> > >
> > > http://imagedv.com/aircamperlog/GNa-log-003.htm
> > >
> > > If that doesn't work (sorry) just do a Google search for DJ VEGH
> > > AIRCAMPER.
> > >
> > > His website beats anything I've seen online in regard to a builder's
> > > log. You won't be disappointed.
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: cockpit entrance door |
<8C790AB4849DA5F-ED0-19AA4@FWM-R36.sysops.aol.com>
<433811E4.985DDF01@bell.ca>
<007301c5c2b3$8221e0c0$0564a8c0@rdci.az.home.com>
<4338217E.6B545410@bell.ca>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "RULE, HARVEY" <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Believe it or not a cleaning guy just came in at work and I was
describing the situation to him and he said why not just use the latches
that are spring loaded with the bevelled latch either bolt type or the
flat type.I think at this point that's the best idea yet.Probably use
them at the trailing edge.They would just snap into place as the door
came down then all you have to do is pull in on the latch bolt handle on
either side upon egress.
"RULE, HARVEY" wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "RULE, HARVEY" <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
>
> I thought of just using ordinary door bolts at the ends where it could
> bolt to the other wing ends(trailing edges).One of the other guys
> suggested another hinge underneith at the under leading edge with a pin
> to remove in order to flip the door.However someone else said that
> unless the hinges where in a place of srength then it wouldn't be a real
> good idea.Latches at the edges of either side of the under leading edge
> is another idea.Latches at the trailing egde another idea.A dome button
> for the top of my helmet to hold it down(just kidding)!A seat belt
> connection at the trailing edge and just latch it in with the rest of
> the belts(would cause some drag)(might even buzz behind the head and
> drive one crazy).Clamps at either side of the trailing edge but it would
> really look ugly.Still thinking on a way to do it.
>
> DJ Vegh wrote:
> >
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
> >
> > Don't worry guys. I have not decided to sell the project or abandon the
> > website. I was merely considering what I might be able to get if I DID
> > sell.
> >
> > And... even if I did sell the project the website would FOREVER remain. I
> > will never let that die.
> >
> > About the cockpit door.... I believe there are somepics on my site which
> > show that. I have not yet engineered the latching machnism.
> >
> > DJ Vegh
> > www.imagedv.com/aircamper
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "RULE, HARVEY" <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "RULE, HARVEY" <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
> > >
> > > Excellent web page however he doesn't show or give the hold down
> > > mechanism for the door.I have fired off a letter to him about
> > > this,thanks a million for the web site.
> > >
> > > dmott9@aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dmott9@aol.com
> > > >
> > > > Try this one: (or just put in DJ VEGH AIRCAMPER into Google)
> > > >
> > > > http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/gallery.htm
> > > >
> > > > -dennis
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tuu2Tango@aol.com
> > > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > > > Sent: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 07:47:11 EDT
> > > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
> > > >
> > > > The "cut and paste" from DJ Vegh's website clipped one letter.
> > > >
> > > > Try this one...
> > > >
> > > > http://imagedv.com/aircamperlog/GNa-log-003.htm
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work (sorry) just do a Google search for DJ VEGH
> > > > AIRCAMPER.
> > > >
> > > > His website beats anything I've seen online in regard to a builder's
> > > > log. You won't be disappointed.
> > > >
> > > > Roy
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| Subject: | Re: cockpit entrance door |
I'm retired now but I've done much cleaning in my years. I have a drop
hinged door for the front pit. I am using spring loaded countersunk bullet
latches, forward and rear. Just push to open, pull to close with proper jams.
Ordered from McMaster.com
Corky
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| Subject: | Re: cockpit entrance door |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Malley" <jgmalley@comcast.net>
The flop door: If left without a latch, its trailing edge will float about
one inch above that of the wing. It only needs a few ounces of pressure to
hold it in place, so there is no need to overdo the latch mechanism. If you
lift it in flight, you begin a slow descent. If you remove it entirely,
there's a little extra turbulence in the rear cockpit. If you have a way to
lock it open while climbing into the cockpit and leave it up during takeoff,
you'll swear someone shortened the runway and grew taller trees. All from
experience.
Jim Malley
----- Original Message -----
From: "RULE, HARVEY" <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "RULE, HARVEY" <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
>
>
> I have installed a cockpit entrance door or what I call a flop door
> which is hinged to the wing just behind the top gas tank.I was wondering
> if anyone had one of these and what they used to latch it down.I have
> all kinds of ideas but I'd like to see what others have done as
> well,thanks for any info passed along.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: cockpit entrance door |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham Hansen" <grhans@cable-lynx.net>
To hold the "flop" in trailing position, I use two round head wood screws at
the lower ends of the flop spar. Directly ahead of each screw, mounted on
the underside of the small center section spar, are two strips of thin steel
about 1/2" wide. These strips have a sort-of-joggle bend in them to engage
the screw heads, thus holding the flop in trailing position. It doesn't take
much to do this and one doesn't have to latch or unlatch anything.
Adjustment is easy by simply turning the screws in or out. (It is difficult
to describe this arrangement in words; a picture would be better and I hope
this is understandable.)
In addition, I installed a couple of wood screws in the aft lower face of
the small center section spar to act as stops to adjust the trailing
position of the flop.
Lifting the flop only slightly in flight will cause the nose to pitch down,
possibly because of turbulent airflow over the tail. In the trail position,
it seems to smooth out the airflow over the tail of my Pietenpol. With the
flop removed, my a/c tends to be a bit nose heavy leading me to suspect
there is some turbulence ahead of the horizontal tail surfaces. I suppose
tuft testing would tell the story, but I never bothered to do it.
Graham Hansen (Pietenpol CF-AUN)
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| Subject: | corvair heads / progress report |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.com" <tmbrant1@netzero.net>
Hey corvair people..
When doing a valve job, according the the WW manual, you are to use "wide seats".
Does this presume that for every valve job you're replacing the seats? Also,
what are people doing for valves? Using new, existing, stainless??
I found a local performance engine shop that is pretty good to work with, plus
it's 3 miles from my house so I can inspect things at each stage very easily.
Dropped the heads off tonight. WW has the crank, distributor and front starter
components in the works... Clarks has the cylinders, pistons, cam, etc.. Pretty
soon I'll have all the parts together for this thing and once I have the
engine completed, hopefully that will spur on the rest of the project.
Hopefully, by spring the engine will be ready to run and I'll have the fuselage
on gear. Then over the summer complete the wings. Man - if all goes well I
could get this thing done in 2-3 more years...
Sorry for the rant, just getting wound up again... Besides, tonight I flew the
172 and fuel at KMIC is 4.45 / gallon. That equals about $45 / hour in fuel
alone. OUCH. I'm setting the Piet up for Auto gas so at least I'll save a buck
a gallon.
Seeya,
Tom B.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Hi Irwin
I have the basic same set up as you. I have the Matco TW and I havent had
any problems with it. It is a bit heavy. You should start thinking about
your weight balance. We all have handled that in a variety of ways. I
built my motor mount 2 in longer than plan, added a 4 gal fuel header tank
behind the FW and added a 30 amp battery on the firewall. I'll let others
speak for themselves.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Irwin Fust" <ifust@digitalpath.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailwheels
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Irwin Fust <ifust@digitalpath.net>
>
> Hello folks,
> I am the proud new owner of a Pietenpol project and I am also new to this
> list. My Piet is about 70% complete and I'm trying to make some decisions
> on how to proceed with its completion. I've never built an airplane
> before and I don't know what the heck I'm doing but I'm plugging along.
> With enough time, patience and acquired knowledge I hope to be flying it
> in about a year. The plane was originally built for a Ford engine (163
> inches long) but now has a Cont. A65-8 on it. I plan on changing the
> tailwheel to either a Lang steerable or a Raven lockable wheel.
> Question: Has anyone on the list had any experience with the lockable
> wheel and will it work well on the Pietenpol?
>
> Thanks for any advice you can give. I have been told that there is a lot
> of Pietenpol knowledge on this list. I hope to tap into it and make my
> plane a safer aircraft when finished.
>
> By the way, my other plane is a 1946 Aeronca Chief that I've flown all
> around the west coast for the past 4 years. My home field is Red Bluff,
> CA and there is another Piet on the field. Luckily I have something to
> fly while I finish the Pietenpol.
> Thanks again,
> Irwin
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Route 45 To Dallas They got Back to Houston Do not Archive. |
Dear Friends,
Just a fast short note, to let you know that they got back to Hoston tonight,
found everything as if nothing happened, we all are happy and thanking God for
his blessings.
Off course, a BIG THANK YOU to all of you for you help offered, good wishes and
prayers.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
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Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" <catdesign@intergate.com>
Hi Irwin,
I'm in Sacramento (Carmichael actually) Not anywhere near completion on my
Piet but slowly (very slowly) making progress. (Whom ever said having two
kids was as easy as one should be thrown out in the rain.) Used to fly to
Red Bluff when I was learning how to fly. What other Piet is up there? Next
time your in the area stop by and I'll show you my project.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Irwin Fust" <ifust@digitalpath.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailwheels
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Irwin Fust <ifust@digitalpath.net>
>
> Hello folks,
> I am the proud new owner of a Pietenpol project and I am also new to this
> list. My Piet is about 70% complete and I'm trying to make some decisions
> on how to proceed with its completion. I've never built an airplane
> before and I don't know what the heck I'm doing but I'm plugging along.
> With enough time, patience and acquired knowledge I hope to be flying it
> in about a year. The plane was originally built for a Ford engine (163
> inches long) but now has a Cont. A65-8 on it. I plan on changing the
> tailwheel to either a Lang steerable or a Raven lockable wheel.
> Question: Has anyone on the list had any experience with the lockable
> wheel and will it work well on the Pietenpol?
>
> Thanks for any advice you can give. I have been told that there is a lot
> of Pietenpol knowledge on this list. I hope to tap into it and make my
> plane a safer aircraft when finished.
>
> By the way, my other plane is a 1946 Aeronca Chief that I've flown all
> around the west coast for the past 4 years. My home field is Red Bluff,
> CA and there is another Piet on the field. Luckily I have something to
> fly while I finish the Pietenpol.
> Thanks again,
> Irwin
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New to List - Questions on Glueing |
Chris
Consider not installing the plywood on the sides until you get the fuselage framed
up and the controls installed. It worked great for me.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Clarke
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 9:03 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to List - Questions on Glueing
Hi Everyone,
I am new to the list and have just started building my piet. I was quite inspired
by the video by Michael Cuy. Amazing job on that airplane Michael. I have
just a few questions on glueing which I'm certain has been asked enough already.
First, I am using T-88 Epoxy for all the glueing. I have laid up the fuselage
side and am ready to glue the first side. How have people mixed this stuff before?
It says 1:1 mixture, so have people used scales or just graduated mixing
cups. My thought was to use the 4 oz. graduated mixing cups, but will that be
accurate enough or should I use a scale. Of course the most appropriate and
accurate mixture is what I am trying to achieve.
Second, in terms of pressure for the T-88 to set, I think it is just enough pressure
to keep firm contact and squeeze out a bit on the sides. Is this correct
Anyway I thank anyone for their input on this
Cheers,
Chris Clarke
PS: I am trying to post regular progress on mykitplane.com
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| Subject: | Re: cockpit entrance door |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" <catdesign@intergate.com>
I always look forward to your posts Graham. They are always full of great
useful information.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Hansen" <grhans@cable-lynx.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cockpit entrance door
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham Hansen"
> <grhans@cable-lynx.net>
>
> To hold the "flop" in trailing position, I use two round head wood screws
> at the lower ends of the flop spar. Directly ahead of each screw, mounted
> on the underside of the small center section spar, are two strips of thin
> steel about 1/2" wide. These strips have a sort-of-joggle bend in them to
> engage the screw heads, thus holding the flop in trailing position. It
> doesn't take much to do this and one doesn't have to latch or unlatch
> anything. Adjustment is easy by simply turning the screws in or out. (It
> is difficult to describe this arrangement in words; a picture would be
> better and I hope this is understandable.)
>
> In addition, I installed a couple of wood screws in the aft lower face of
> the small center section spar to act as stops to adjust the trailing
> position of the flop.
>
> Lifting the flop only slightly in flight will cause the nose to pitch
> down, possibly because of turbulent airflow over the tail. In the trail
> position, it seems to smooth out the airflow over the tail of my
> Pietenpol. With the flop removed, my a/c tends to be a bit nose heavy
> leading me to suspect there is some turbulence ahead of the horizontal
> tail surfaces. I suppose tuft testing would tell the story, but I never
> bothered to do it.
>
> Graham Hansen (Pietenpol CF-AUN)
>
>
>
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<8C790AB4849DA5F-ED0-19AA4@FWM-R36.sysops.aol.com>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
OK, I've got it bookmarked-again.
when I bookmarked it before it titled itself
"sitemap" and I didn't rename it then forgot
and my Piet list is very large so when I didn't
see anything referring to DJ in there after trying
that url, well....
Nice to hear you're staying with us DJ.
Clif
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dmott9@aol.com
>
> Try this one: (or just put in DJ VEGH AIRCAMPER into Google)
>
> http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/gallery.htm
>
> -dennis
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