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1. 04:18 AM - Re: It's alive!!! (Phillips, Jack)
2. 05:10 AM - Jim's "A" (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 07:40 AM - Re: It's alive!!! (Isablcorky@aol.com)
4. 08:03 AM - Re: It's alive!!! (Jim Markle)
5. 08:20 AM - Re: Who's on First? (Mike King)
6. 08:23 AM - Re: Who's on First? (TRichmo9@aol.com)
7. 08:30 AM - Re: Elevator control cable connections (Phillips, Jack)
8. 09:17 AM - Re: a kit project, Hangar, the second home. (Gary Gower)
9. 09:21 AM - Re: Elevator control cable connections (Isablcorky@aol.com)
10. 10:42 AM - Re: Who's on First? (Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com)
11. 11:42 AM - Re: Who's on First? (Mike King)
12. 12:54 PM - Re: a kit project (Michael D Cuy)
13. 05:16 PM - Re: Elevator control cable connections (John and Phyllis Smoyer)
14. 07:13 PM - Re: a kit project (Dick Navratil)
15. 07:58 PM - Aileron Cable Friction (slowbilder@comcast.net)
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Way to go, Jim!
I know the feeling of having the mags 180 degrees off. My brand new
Slicks came with the leads marked wrong. When I first tried to start my
Continental it would only run on two cylinders. Once I swapped the
ignition leads around the other two started working and it ran whole
bunches better.
How close are you to flying it?
Jack
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Markle
Subject: Pietenpol-List: It's alive!!!
I hooked up the P-lead, bolted on the prop, filled the aluminum radiator
with water and poured in 5 quarts of oil.....
And before long a Model A in Plano came to life.....
(Ok, NOT before long but I'll leave out all the details about the arm
numbing propping, flooding the carb numerous times and finally realizing
the mag was 180 degrees off)
The old water pump is leaking a bit but other than that, she purred.....
Water temp and oil pressure good.....
What an incredible sound......
Jim Markle
Plano, TX
214.505.6101
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Way to go Jim!!
Like everyone says, the best way to look at this Piet building thing is as a bunch
of smaller projects. The engine is definetely one of the more rewarding ones!!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: It's alive!!! |
Jim,
Looking through my piles of JUNK I collected during my ole car restoring
years I discovered I have 2 A Model carbs. A MOCHI cast iron body, heavier than
hell, and an after market of unknown mfg. If you have need of either or both
send me your mailing address.
Someone in La trying to get rid of a lot of stuff
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| Subject: | Re: It's alive!!! |
This thing could fly next summer. With a 5 and 7 year old sons, house remodeling
AND work, who knows! Aside from the millions of little things left, the wood
parts are all done and the fittings are all done. So I can probably say 90%
done if I would just accept some of the things I've already completed but would
like to do differently.
But annoyances like the email I just received telling me I need to be in Des Moines
this Thursday and Las Vegas for most of next week...well, that stuff gets
in the way!
I actually believe next summer is doable though.....
Thanks for the note/congrats (from everyone on the list)!
Now to figure out to avoid the blisters I have on BOTH of my middle fingers and
those new aches and pains I woke up with this morning.....
JM
----- Original Message -----
From: Phillips, Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:17 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: It's alive!!!
Way to go, Jim!
I know the feeling of having the mags 180 degrees off. My brand new Slicks came
with the leads marked wrong. When I first tried to start my Continental it
would only run on two cylinders. Once I swapped the ignition leads around the
other two started working and it ran whole bunches better.
How close are you to flying it?
Jack
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:29 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: It's alive!!!
I hooked up the P-lead, bolted on the prop, filled the aluminum radiator with
water and poured in 5 quarts of oil.....
And before long a Model A in Plano came to life.....
(Ok, NOT before long but I'll leave out all the details about the arm numbing
propping, flooding the carb numerous times and finally realizing the mag was
180 degrees off)
The old water pump is leaking a bit but other than that, she purred.....
Water temp and oil pressure good.....
What an incredible sound......
Jim Markle
Plano, TX
214.505.6101
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| Subject: | Re: Who's on First? |
Jim,
How far is Collinsville, OK from Fort Worth, Texas? I might want to drive
up and take a look.
Thanks.
Mike King
GN-1
77MK
Dallas
----- Original Message -----
From: Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Who's on First?
I live at Collinsville,OK. Probably a 3 hr. drive but you are welcome to look,
take all the pictures and talk all you want. I have a corvair powered Piet
that has been flying since 1995. You can contact me at jdavis2a@wmconnect.com
or 918-371-9624 if you are interested. JIM BALLEW
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| Subject: | Re: Who's on First? |
it 259 miles tom
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| Subject: | Elevator control cable connections |
John,
Attached is a photo showing how I attached my cables to the bellcrank,
and to the control horns. I put the turnbuckles at the horns to make
adjustments easier (it is a bear to safety wire turnbuckles - doing it
inside the fuselage at the bellcrank would be very difficult). I had to
make a pair of fittings to attach the cables from the control stick to
the bellcrank as shown. The turnbuckles would not fit over the
bellcrank. I used standard AN115 shackles for attachment everywhere I
had a cable atach to a fitting without a turnbuckle. Those puppies are
expensive (about $5 each from Aicraft Spruce). You would do well to
count how many you will need, then buy them from B&B Aircraft Supplies
at OSH or SNF. Much cheaper.
Good luck!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John and
Phyllis Smoyer
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator control cable connections
I'm trying to figure out how to connect control cables from the
bellcrank to the elevator control horns. Many of the photos I've seen
on the matronics site show connection to the horns through a u-shaped
shackle.
I haven't yet found any pictures that show the connection to the aft
side of the bell crank. Are turnbuckles used at this connection? Do
you connect two sets of cables, one to the left elevator horn, and one
to the right elevator horn to the hole on the aft end of the bell crank?
If so, what are the fittings to use at that point?
Thanks to everyone on this list for the great info and advice that's
passed back and forth.
Best Regards,
John Smoyer
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| Subject: | Re: a kit project, Hangar, the second home. |
Congratulations Dick,
We did the same here, We built a big hangar in our space in the Club. What
we are doing next, (hope next year) is two small overhead rooms in the top with
a bed and bathroom for friends pilots visiting. Will be something simple,
but given that the nearest hotel is about 5 miles away, is confrotable for an
overnight flying visiter.
We also have our motorhome parked and hooked here, a good extra when flying early,
We stay since the afternoon and we are ready for the early morning departure,
no rush at dawn in the freeway, safer also.
Probably is my first step towards my weekend and future retirement home...
You will be happy with your new project...
Saludos
Gary Gower
Dick Navratil <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
What do you do after building a Piet? I gathered as many volunteers as possible
and am giving this a try. I'm leaving the climbing to my son and son in law.
It has been quite a hand full so far, but I'm enjoying it. It will be 60x60
with 18' walls and be stocked with cold beer at all times for visitors. I am
building this at Osceola, Wi. I will have space available for rental next spring.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator control cable connections |
If you guys insist on paying $5 ea for shackles that is sure your priv. But
I will once again give you a tip given me by Joe C. Go to Home Depot, wire
rope section, for Attwood stainless steel EYE STRAPS, 1/2 ". You get 2 for about
$ 1.50. Bend the ears around in a vise and you have a perfect shackle,
strong and light. $ 1.50 vs $10.00 plus freight. No way.
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| Subject: | Re: Who's on First? |
Collinsville is about 10 miles north of Tulsa. It takes me about 4.5 hours
to go to the American Airlines training center in Fort Worth if that helps.
Just give a little advanced notice. I'm available most of the time. There are
three other Piets on the field which I can probably get you a look at least a
couple of them.
JIM
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| Subject: | Re: Who's on First? |
Jim,
Sounds good to me. We might even get Jim Markle to go along
for the ride.
I now live in Ponder......just north of the Texas Motorspeedway.
It would be good to see some other planes too.
Thanks Jim.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Who's on First?
Collinsville is about 10 miles north of Tulsa. It takes me about 4.5 hours to
go to the American Airlines training center in Fort Worth if that helps. Just
give a little advanced notice. I'm available most of the time. There are
three other Piets on the field which I can probably get you a look at least a
couple of them.
JIM
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| Subject: | Re: a kit project |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Very cool, Dick. Is Osceola far from where you live in MN ? That is one
tall hangar too....room for a second
story condo apt. there I'd say. Every pilot's dream.
Mike C.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator control cable connections |
Thanks for the great advice. This will get the project moving again.
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| Subject: | Re: a kit project |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Hi Mike
That's the idea. A 16x20 apt above, work shop below. A jib crane for
lifting engines and such. It's 45 miles away from home but out in the
pretty country, away from city traffic. I really don't like flying over the
city that much. At this place there are about 9 country type airports
within 70 mi.
Are you still using 1/2" bungees on your ship? I switched down to 3/8" but
am thinking of going back to 1/2". I'm just not getting the amount of
spring action that I want.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: a kit project
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
> <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
> Very cool, Dick. Is Osceola far from where you live in MN ? That is
> one tall hangar too....room for a second
> story condo apt. there I'd say. Every pilot's dream.
>
> Mike C.
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Aileron Cable Friction |
I recently connected the aileron control cables on my Pietenpol project, and found
that there was a lot of friction in the aileron control system. Today I took
a piece of candle wax and waxed the cables where they run through the hard
maple fairleads in the wing. This resulted in a dramatic reduction in the friction
in the system.
Does anyone have any comments on this or other lubricants for cables running through
wood fairleads?
Bob Humbert
N491RH
Battle Creek, Michigan
I recently connected the aileron control cables on my Pietenpol project, and found
that there was a lot of friction in the aileron control system. Today I took
a piece of candle wax and waxed the cables where they run through the hard
maple fairleads in the wing. This resulted in a dramatic reduction in the friction
in the system.
Does anyone have any comments on this or other lubricants for cables running through
wood fairleads?
Bob Humbert
N491RH
Battle Creek, Michigan
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