---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/07/05: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:58 AM - Re: Piet "invasion" of Guadalajara (Gary Gower) 2. 05:53 AM - Charlie Rubeck (Sayre, William G) 3. 05:54 AM - Re: discouraged corvair builder - help! (del magsam) 4. 06:12 AM - brakes (Douwe Blumberg) 5. 06:36 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 10/06/05 (Tim Willis) 6. 06:41 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 10/06/05 (Tim Willis) 7. 06:52 AM - Re: Charlie Rubeck (RULE, HARVEY) 8. 10:52 AM - Re: brakes (Steve Eldredge) 9. 02:47 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 10/04/05 (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)) 10. 05:44 PM - Re: do I need brakes (Frank Metcalfe) 11. 05:50 PM - Re: Charlie Rubeck (Frank Metcalfe) 12. 08:31 PM - Re: It's alive!!! (Jim Markle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:37 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet "invasion" of Guadalajara Hi Ted,Oscar and all, I am sure that if this trip, or any other you all plan to visit Mexico by plane, We all plan it with enough time, will be a great one, We all just need at least a 2 or 3 week vacation,,, from there on, everyone will mark a limit in time... Some pilots in our Club are planning a 4 day trip to the Veracruz coast (Central Gulf) coast) in about 2 weeks. They are using the Jeppsen Flightstar and the Google Earth program to follow the route though the mountains, Just like the real thing!!! I was very surprized,with this "Simulator" and a realy hope to join them in the next one soon, Job permited... Saludos Gary Gower. Hope I was rich enough... :-) Ted Brousseau wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" Oscar, God Bless you. I can't imagine how you must feel. When you are ready, I will be looking forward to flying with you on the Piet "invasion" of Guadalajara. In the meantime, enjoy that vacation as best you can and dream about the "Invasion". Ted PS I hope the TSA doesn't intercept this message.... > Time: 08:47:00 AM PST US > From: "Oscar Zuniga" > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hangar, the second home > > Keep talking! There are still several of us with dreams of flying down to > Mexico in Pietenpols someday, and it's dreams that keep things going. In my > case, I had no sooner done the final color coat on the repaired vertical > stabilizer of 41CC (picture down past Poly-Brush and Poly-Spray, at > http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/repairs.html#update ) than our > middle son died rather suddenly on Sept. 3. So my airplane stuff came to a > screeching halt on Labor Day weekend and now my wife and I are going on > vacation for a while, so I will not be able to get back to the Piet for a > couple of weeks. It is taking some time to get through this. > > But keep talking about a Piet "invasion" of Guadalajara and it will be good > therapy for me ;o) > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:49 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Charlie Rubeck From: "Sayre, William G" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sayre, William G" This is sad. If you hadn't met him, you missed a genuine man with energy and always willing to help and share knowledge. I'm glad I got to joke with him at Brodhead 2004. Somehow it's fitting that his efforts will be "lifting" the spirits of many for years and years to come. ------------------------------------------------------- Charlie Rubek, who for many years spent innumerable hours volunteering each year at the Pietenpol Fly-In, has died. More details to come. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:01 AM PST US From: del magsam Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: discouraged corvair builder - help! Hi Tom you might try the vair list for good (and bad) suggestions of where to go from here. sounds like your dealing with a very expensive machine shop. might be worth to keep on looking for another set of heads. Del "tmbrant1@netzero.com" wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.com" Any corvair builders out there who may be able to offer some advice or encouragement... I'm really having trouble with my heads. Reading the WW manual basically I was expecting to be able to find a pair of heads with good guides, seats, etc, that would just need cleaning, new springs and a valve job.. Well I've bought (2) sets of heads to find that for one reason or another, they need extensive work. The best pair needs guides, all new exhaust valves, several new seats, possibly fly cutting of the cylinder head mating surfaces, plus the valve job and cleaning. I've got about $240 wrapped up in them so far and still have about $400-$500 left.. Now the machine shop told me tonight when I brought my new pistons in that the rods are very egg shaped and they may not be able to get them back to tolerance.. Plus, maybe it's no big deal, but I had them install ARP rod bolts - they installed them prior to glass beading the rods so the bolts are glass beaded too.. Maybe not a big deal but it seems that they would have done that after the glass beading.. The pistons I ordered from Clark's have a slightly different part number than the ones suggested in the WW manual L2206F. It looks like they have a coating on the skirt where as the L2206 does not. Does this make a difference? I haven't been able to reach WW as I'm sure they're super busy in the post Oshkosh orders... Any help or encouragement would be appreciated. Tom B. Del-New Richmond, Wi "farmerdel@rocketmail.com" --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:14 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: brakes Thanks everyone for the brakes input. I figured brakes were necessary. Mike, how do you get the helium into the ping pong balls? Douwe ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:48 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 10/06/05 Oscar, I am sorry about your son. That has to be a terrible blow. That you can write about it now is encouraging. I look forward to meeting you and talking Piets later this year. Best wishes. Tim --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:46 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 10/06/05 Fred B., Re seatbelts/harness, here's a link to the site you referenced, Summit Racing: http://www.summitracing.com/ It looks like $60-70 per set plus freight will set you up. Tim === --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:32 AM PST US From: "RULE, HARVEY" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Charlie Rubeck --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "RULE, HARVEY" I am truly sorry I missed meeting this man.We have some like him at our airfield in Ottawa and they are missed when they go,that's for sure! "Sayre, William G" wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sayre, William G" > > This is sad. If you hadn't met him, you missed a genuine man with > energy and always willing to help and share knowledge. I'm glad I got > to joke with him at Brodhead 2004. Somehow it's fitting that his > efforts will be "lifting" the spirits of many for years and years to > come. > ------------------------------------------------------- > Charlie Rubek, who for many years spent innumerable hours volunteering > each year at the Pietenpol Fly-In, has died. More details to come. > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:01 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: brakes From: "Steve Eldredge" That isn't the hard part. Keeping it in is. Stevee :-) ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Subject: Pietenpol-List: brakes Thanks everyone for the brakes input. I figured brakes were necessary. Mike, how do you get the helium into the ping pong balls? Douwe ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:56 PM PST US ETAsAhRzE3lU6sdCfzuPWdLRRpE8/948GAIUSarc/olw2iQSfyN03itfc2DK2+M= From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 10/04/05 2005 17:39:03 -0700 (PDT) --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Tim: I am using ultralight type wheels and belive they should work fine. I bought Heager stuff from AS&S. rather than something from E-Bay. My original worry was that the 3/4" steel axels wouldn't be strong enough, but I learned that several builders are flying (and landing) just fine with 3/4" axels. Leon Stefan ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:44:18 PM PST US From: "Frank Metcalfe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: do I need brakes If you dont have brakes on pavment be ready to taxi when the engine starts. P.S. Engine run ups with out brakes can be fun to watch !! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:31 AM To: pietenpolgroup Subject: Pietenpol-List: do I need brakes Hi guys! I've built my Piet without brakes and with a skid. My question is, if I wanted to be able to operate off paved surfaces, do I need brakes, or would it work with just a tailwheel. I'm using big motorcycle wheels so I'm thinking i'm going to need brakes. I'm just trying like crazy to keep the weight down. thanks Douwe ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:50:29 PM PST US From: "Frank Metcalfe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Charlie Rubeck --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Frank Metcalfe" Heres A Pic I took late afternoon at sun-n-fun 2005 camp site about dusk . It was late, but its how I will remimber Charle Making Piet Ribs !! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sayre, William G Subject: Pietenpol-List: Charlie Rubeck --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sayre, William G" This is sad. If you hadn't met him, you missed a genuine man with energy and always willing to help and share knowledge. I'm glad I got to joke with him at Brodhead 2004. Somehow it's fitting that his efforts will be "lifting" the spirits of many for years and years to come. ------------------------------------------------------- Charlie Rubek, who for many years spent innumerable hours volunteering each year at the Pietenpol Fly-In, has died. More details to come. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:20 PM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: It's alive!!! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" I would have enjoyed this message a LOT more if I hadn't JUST taken MY control stick back out to sandblast it and re-powder coat it a different color.....it's usually easy to keep a distance from such comments but this one hit home! :-) Ok, I'm gonna stop changing things! Well, I did change the timing on the mag this evening (yes, I need to find a timing light so I can stop guessing!) and now all I have to do is push the prop through about 5 degrees and she starts up....I was so impressed I HAD to stop it and re start a bunch of times just because it was so darn easy. If listening to that engine in my driveway is THIS much fun I can hardly imagine what flying behind it will be like..... I got a bit tense when I ran the rpm's up to about 1500 to test the new tach I just installed this evening....and suddenly realized the prop was lifting the tail up......PANIC time! I held her down and added another cinder block to the tail. Jim in plano.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Brousseau" Subject: Pietenpol-List: It's alive!!! > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" > > Come on Jim, accept it the way it is!! I have been going to therapy weekly > to overcome the urge to continually improve parts. I have succeeded and > will not ever again rebuild anything - as soon as I redo the control > stick.... > > Ted > > Time: 08:03:33 AM PST US > From: "Jim Markle" > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: It's alive!!! > > So I can probably say 90% done if I would just accept some of the things > I've already completed but would > like to do differently. > >