---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/13/05: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:34 AM - Re: Aileron / Wing Chord Question (Dan Loegering) 2. 07:32 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/12/05 (Tim Willis) 3. 07:32 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/12/05 (Tim Willis) 4. 08:00 PM - Keep Building (Rcaprd@aol.com) 5. 10:47 PM - Any Piet on STL (Javier Cruz) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:55 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron / Wing Chord Question From: "Dan Loegering" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dan Loegering" Thanks for the reply Chuck - your dimensions confirmed exactly what I was looking for. I have 10.5" also from the trailing edge attach point to the back of the vertical. I figured that worst case, I would just need a bit more deflection to get the same roll rate. Pulled rib 3 off the jig and loaded rib 4 this morning. Dan L. Time: 05:36:26 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron / Wing Chord Question I built 2 extra ribs over 7 years ago. They make great wall hangings !! Here are the results of the measurements that I just took: From the aft edge of the rib (where the trailing edge goes) to the aft side of the rear most vertical member is - 10 1/2". The plans call for 11 3/4". From the aft edge of the rib to the fwd edge of the aft 1" spar opening - 23 3/16" The plans call for 24 1/2". Between the openings of the 1" Spars - 27 3/4" The plans call for 27 3/4". This is the most important dimension, because it is what the center section, and lift strut points are built to. I used 3/4" spars, therefore I had to use 1/8" shims on each side of the spars, at each rib location. If I would do it again, I would build the ribs to use 3/4" spars so I wouldn't have to shim them, yet maintain the center to center dimension of the spars, which works out to be 28 3/4". My total wing chord, with leading & trailing edges installed, came out to 60 1/8". Chuck G. NX770CG ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:32 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/12/05 Pietenpol-List Digest List This is really timely discussion for me. The parts I bought included 24 wing ribs, which looks like not enough to build the wings, but perhaps enough to provide all the ribs that don't have ailerons. That still leaves me about where our ND builder is-- ahead in some ways, behind in others. I have the advantage of having finished parts, but still have to build a rib jig and go from there. Moreover, I have to make sure to duplicate in my jig and construction whatever variances the former builder made from the blueprint. Right now I can't move around much after knee surgery, but every day is better. Next week I will check it all out. After measuring everything and looking over all, I will be back. BTW, one of my major inspirations in this project is the picture of Chuck flying his Piet while grinning under a leather flying helmet. That pic is in my head, but titled, "That could be me!" --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:32 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/12/05 Pietenpol-List Digest List This is really timely discussion for me. The parts I bought included 24 wing ribs, which looks like not enough to build the wings, but perhaps enough to provide all the ribs that don't have ailerons. That still leaves me about where our ND builder is-- ahead in some ways, behind in others. I have the advantage of having finished parts, but still have to build a rib jig and go from there. Moreover, I have to make sure to duplicate in my jig and construction whatever variances the former builder made from the blueprint. Right now I can't move around much after knee surgery, but every day is better. Next week I will check it all out. After measuring everything and looking over all, I will be back. BTW, one of my major inspirations in this project is the picture of Chuck flying his Piet while grinning under a leather flying helmet. That pic is in my head, but titled, "That could be me!" --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:48 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Keep Building In a message dated 10/13/2005 9:34:18 AM Central Standard Time, strategyguy536@yahoo.com writes: BTW, one of my major inspirations in this project is the picture of Chuck flying his Piet while grinning under a leather flying helmet. That pic is in my head, but titled, "That could be me!" That picture Will be you someday...just keep after it. Do something, anything, every day, on your project. Even if it's just studying the plans, or other literature that has something to do with the task you are currently working on. I'm tellin' ya what...that smile, fun & satisfaction I get from flying my plane lasts until the next opportunity I get to fly 'er again !! This evening I extended the envelope...I flew with the highest gross weight I've ever had 'er to - 1150 lbs. A buddy o' mine, from work, who has never seen anything like small airplanes very much, Squeezed his big ol' 240 lbs into the front cockpit, and we went for a 20 minute flight in perfect flying conditions !! I used the hard surface to take off, and did a 'Runway Hardness Test' on the grass landing !! It's a blast to give folks like him, their first experience at this type of flying !! I was certainly concerned with the climb performance, but she managed about a 50 or 55 mph climb speed, with probably about 100 fpm. Chuck Gantzer NX770CG ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:47:25 PM PST US From: Javier Cruz Subject: Pietenpol-List: Any Piet on STL --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Javier Cruz Hi Friends I have to visit St. Louis, Mo the next weekend, any Piet there?