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Mon 10/31/05


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     1. 04:11 AM - Re: Wing leading-edge tool (Lou Wither)
     2. 04:20 AM - Re: Wing leading-edge tool (Phillips, Jack)
     3. 06:05 AM - Fw: in Rust We Trust (Isablcorky@AOL.COM)
     4. 06:32 AM - Re: Fw: in Rust We Trust (Jeff Boatright)
     5. 06:44 AM - Re: Fw: in Rust We Trust (Steve Ruse)
     6. 06:45 AM - Re: Fw: in Rust We Trust (Isablcorky@aol.com)
     7. 09:15 AM - leading edge idea/sketch attached (Michael D Cuy)
     8. 12:27 PM - frapper site (w b evans)
     9. 12:48 PM - Re: frapper site (Ben Williams)
    10. 12:59 PM - Re: frapper site (Phillips, Jack)
    11. 01:06 PM - Re: frapper site (Hans Vander Voort)
    12. 01:15 PM - Re: frapper site (Mike King)
    13. 01:19 PM - Re: frapper site (owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com)
    14. 01:20 PM - Re: frapper site (Jeff Boatright)
    15. 01:31 PM - Re: frapper site (w b evans)
    16. 01:42 PM - Re: frapper site (TACO) (jetpilot)
    17. 03:42 PM - Re: frapper site (Ben Williams)
    18. 06:46 PM - Re: frapper site ()
    19. 08:44 PM - Re: frapper site (Javier Cruz)
    20. 10:41 PM - Re: frapper site (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:11:45 AM PST US
    From: Lou Wither <nav8799h@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Wing leading-edge tool
    I roughed mine out with a table saw and finished off with the belt sander using a template to keep the desired shape. Lou


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    Time: 04:20:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Wing leading-edge tool
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    I ripped two cuts with my table saw to get the approximate angle of the leading edge, resulting in a trapezoidal shape. Then I attached it to the wing. Finally I used a small block plane to shape it to the nice cureved shape required, making beautiful curled spirals of spruce as I walked down the length of the wing. One of the most enjoyable parts of the building process! Jack Phillips, Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing leading-edge tool Hello! I'm posting to ask if anyone's built/used a tool to sand/shave a wing leading-edge from the rough. Our Dave's been rasping it from outlines drawn on the ends, using a template made from gusset material to confirm his work. We've got several devoted people putting a lot of creativity into our Piet, and I thought this'd be an opportunity to contribute to the project, and also contribute a little to this list, which has been good to belong to. Thanks! Sincerely, Dave Smith http://www.eaa1279.org/Pietenpol.htm


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    Time: 06:05:40 AM PST US
    From: Isablcorky@AOL.COM
    Subject: Fwd: in Rust We Trust
    IFlyTigers@AOL.COM, LCJELKS@AOL.COM, elj@shreve.net, abkess@bellsouth.net, hmposer@charter.net, l4grasshopper@cox.net, shor@cox.net, tvlux@cox.net, craigwilcox@peoplepc.com, pietenpol-list@matronics.com In a message dated 10/31/2005 6:57:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, bgarrett@sport.rr.com writes: Do not archive Thought this article would interest our Piet group and also inform some wives what we are all about In Rust We Trust: Men and Boys and the Wealth of their Toys Oct 31, 2005 by _Jennifer Roback Morse_ (http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contributors/JennniferRobackMorse.html) (=20_bio_ (http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contributors/JennniferRobackMorse.html) | _archive_ (http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contributors/JennniferRobackMorse/archive/2005/) ) I could never be a Leftist because the Left seems to hate two things that I=20 love: men and American business. Male-bashing has developed into a full-blown art-form in this country. And strangely enough, the male-bashing is often accompanied by the presumption that men and women are the same in every significant way. No one seems to notice the logical conclusion: if men are bad, and women and men are the same, ergo, women must be bad. But never mind. I love the men and boys in my life, precisely because of the ways in which they differ from me. And many aspects of American business are distinctly =E2=80=9Cguy things.=E2=80=9D I love these parts of American business too. These two things, American men and American business came together for me last weekend. My husband and I had a few blessed child-free hours, so we went on a date. We went to the Antique Gas and Steam Engine fair, held two week-ends a year on the grounds of the Museum of the same name, here in Vista, California. Male and female difference number one: My husband went to look at the antique steam engines. I went to look at my husband, and a whole lot of other guys, in their natural habitat. What kind of machines are we talking about? Everything from huge steam-driven turbines, large enough to power a city street, to a dinky little engine that runs a butter-churning machine. This museum is a combination of technological history, and Americana. Old gentlemen in blue-striped engineer outfits drove steam-propelled tractors around the grounds, blowing their whistles at imaginary obstacles. Other guys showed off antique farm machinery, that they had restored from a pile of rust. (The theme of this year=E2=80=99s fair was, I kid you not, =E2=80=9CIn Rust, We Trust.=E2=80=9D) Still others worked in a replica of a blacksmith=E2=80=99s shop, demonstrating the fine points of the blacksmith=E2=80=99s craft. Strolling through the streets of this antique tractor fair, you could see continual improvements in technology. Old-fashioned wringer washing machines were on display. You could imagine how welcome a gas-powered agitator would be to a hard-working farm family, accustomed to washing and wringing their clothes by hand. You could see the improvements in farm implements, as a tractor took the place of a horse pulling a plow. Then the ordinary tractor made possible a whole series of more specialized attachments: a disk, a thresher, a combine. And how did all these improvements come about? If you just read the history books, you might think it was a series of small miracles that led from the horse-drawn plow to the modern air-conditioned tractor, equipped with TV and computer. In the nineteenth century, close to 80% of America worked in agriculture. Today=E2=80=99s tractors allow a mere 8% of the population to plow the whole Mid West and feed America and much of the world. But looking around the grounds of this antique tractor museum, I believe I could see how those miracles took place. My husband truly loves these old machines. Each old engine prompted a story=20 about how some old farmer must have figured out this or that about how to make something or other work better. My husband got excited as he explained to me that once you had figured out how to make a steam engine work, you could use that same engine for many purposes. You could use a drive belt to connect the engine to your washing machine, or to a saw mill. And he knew people of his grandfather=E2=80=99s generation,=20who had done just that. They took the engine they normally used around the farmhouse, up into the woods when they had lumber to mill. As I watched my husband and the other guys, looking at antique engines with love in their eyes, I realized those men weren=E2=80=99t just looking at old rusty machines. Every man there was filled with admiration for the men who made those machines, admiration for the lives they lived and the lives they made possible. These were once little boys who loved their toy trains and tractors and cars. They grew up to be men who make things happen, who look for a better way, and who figure out, one step at a time, easier and cheaper and safer ways to do things. These are men who honor the past, not by preserving it, but by building on it, improving it. I am convinced that men like these are the key to understanding the secret of American wealth. This is how all the little miracles of innovation took place. Because they owned their little farms and had the right to any improvements they made, American men had every incentive to find better ways and to share their knowledge with others. These men take pride in the fact that they can confront reality on reality=E2=80=99s terms. They are accountable to reality in a way that no talking head or academic can truly be. Even when I was an academic myself, and even now when I am surrounded by talking heads, I love being married to an engineer. He keeps me grounded. The American way is about small business and individual initiative. Our country=E2=80=99s system of private property and personal innovation harnesses the unique gifts of men and places those gifts at the service of the common good. We are a rich country because we turn little boys who love tractors into grown-up men who make things work better. Dr. Morse is Research Fellow in Economics at the _Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty_ (http://www.townhal l.com/phrd.html?lochttp://www.acton.org/) , Do not archive From: "Bruce Garrett" <bgarrett@sport.rr.com> "sparky garrett" <sparky96181@yahoo.com>, "lloyd southern" <rls8836@yahoo.com>, <Isablcorky@aol.com>, "Garry Carter" <garrycarter@satx.rr.com>, "Eddie Bell" <Eddie_Bell@msn.com>, "Advantage Graphics" <advgraph@kskc.net>, "Drew Wommack" <drew@elbymartin.com>, "evolve 000" <evolve_000@yahoo.com>, <greenrf@shreve.net>, "RICHARD LEBLANC" <madscientist_999@hotmail.com>, "Tim Butler" <tbutler94@hotmail.com> Subject: in Rust We Trust In Rust We Trust: Men and Boys and the Wealth of their Toys Oct 31, 2005 by Jennifer Roback Morse ( bio | archive ) I could never be a Leftist because the Left seems to hate two things that I=20love: men and American business. Male-bashing has developed into a full-blown art-form in this country. And strangely enough, the male-bashing is often accompanied by the presumption that men and women are the same in every significant way. No one seems to notice the logical conclusion: if men are bad, and women and men are the same, ergo, women must be bad. But never mind. I love the men and boys in my life,=20precisely because of the ways in which they differ from me. And many aspects of American business are distinctly =93guy things.=94 I love these parts of American business too. These two things, American men and American business came together for me last weekend. My husband and I had a few blessed child-free hours, so we went=20on a date. We went to the Antique Gas and Steam Engine fair, held two week-ends a year on the grounds of the Museum of the same name, here in Vista, California. Male and female difference number one: My husband went to look at the antique steam engines. I went to look at my husband, and a whole lot of other guys, in their natural habitat. What kind of machines are we talking about? Everything from huge steam-driven turbines, large enough to power a city street, to a dinky little engine that runs a butter-churning machine. This museum is a combination of technological history, and Americana. Old gentlemen in blue-striped engineer outfits drove steam-propelled tractors around the grounds, blowing their whistles at imaginary obstacles. Other guys showed off antique farm machinery, that they had restored from a pile of rust. (The theme of this year=92s fair was, I kid you not, =93In Rust, We Trust.=94) Still others worked in a replica of a blacksmith=92s shop, demonstrating the fine points of the blacksmith=92s craft. Strolling through the streets of this antique tractor fair, you could see continual improvements in technology. Old-fashioned wringer washing machines were on display. You could imagine how welcome a gas-powered agitator would be to a hard-working farm family, accustomed to washing and wringing their clothes by hand. You could see the improvements in farm implements, as a tractor took the place of a horse pulling a plow. Then the ordinary tractor made possible a whole series of more specialized attachments: a disk, a thresher, a combine. And how did all these improvements come about? If you just read the history books, you might think it was a series of small miracles that led from the=20horse-drawn plow to the modern air-conditioned tractor, equipped with TV and computer. In the nineteenth century, close to 80% of America worked in agriculture. Today=92s tractors allow a mere 8% of the population to plow the whole Mid West and feed America and much of the world. But looking around the grounds of this antique tractor museum, I believe I could see how those miracles took place. My husband truly loves these old machines. Each old engine prompted a story=20about how some old farmer must have figured out this or that about how to make something or other work better. My husband got excited as he explained to me that once you had figured out how to make a steam engine work, you could use that same engine for many purposes. You could use a drive belt to connect the engine to your washing machine, or to a saw mill. And he knew people of his grandfather=92s generation, who had done just that. They took the engine they normally used around the farmhouse, up into the woods when they had lumber to mill. As I watched my husband and the other guys, looking at antique engines with=20love in their eyes, I realized those men weren=92t just looking at old rusty machines. Every man there was filled with admiration for the men who made those machines, admiration for the lives they lived and the lives they made possible. These were once little boys who loved their toy trains and tractors and cars. They grew up to be men who make things happen, who look for a better way, and who figure out, one step at a time, easier and cheaper and safer ways to do things. These are men who honor the past, not by preserving it, but by building on it, improving it. I am convinced that men like these are the key to understanding the secret of American wealth. This is how all the little miracles of innovation took place. Because they owned their little farms and had the right to any improvements they made, American men had every incentive to find better ways and to=20share their knowledge with others. These men take pride in the fact that they can confront reality on reality=92s terms. They are accountable to reality in a way that no talking head or academic can truly be. Even when I was an=20academic myself, and even now when I am surrounded by talking heads, I love=20being married to an engineer. He keeps me grounded. The American way is about small business and individual initiative. Our country=92s system of private property and personal innovation harnesses the unique gifts of men and places those gifts at the service of the common good. We are a rich country because we turn little boys who love tractors into grown-up men who make things work better. Dr. Morse is Research Fellow in Economics at the Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty, <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2769" nameGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <!-- lt-column --> <H1 classleadin>In Rust We Trust: Men and Boys and the Wealth of their Toys</H1> <H2></H2> Oct 31, 2005 by Jennifer Roback Morse ( bio | archive ) <SCRIPT languageJavaScript typetext/JavaScript> function popEmailWin(URL,LEFT,TOP,WIDTH,HEIGHT) { s ",left"+LEFT+",top"+TOP+",width"+WIDTH+",height"+HEIGHT; thisWindow window.open(URL,"PNSRC","locationno,scrollbarsno,menubarno,toolbarno,resizableyes"+s); } </SCRIPT> <SCRIPT src"/scripts/textsizer.js" typetext/javascript></SCRIPT> I could never be a Leftist because the Left seems to hate two things that I love: men and American business. Male-bashing has developed into a full-blown art-form in this country. And strangely enough, the male-bashing is often accompanied by the presumption that men and women are the same in every significant way. No one seems to notice=20the logical conclusion: if men are bad, and women and men are the same, ergo, women must be bad. But never mind. I love the men and boys in my life, precisely because of the ways in which they differ from me. And many aspects of American business are distinctly =93guy things.=94 I love these parts of American business too. These two things, American men and American business came together for me last weekend. My husband and I had a few blessed child-free hours, so we went on a date. We went to the Antique Gas and Steam Engine fair, held two week-ends a year on the grounds of the Museum of the same name, here in Vista, California. Male and female difference number one: My husband went to look at the antique steam engines. I went to look at my husband, and a whole lot of other guys,=20in their natural habitat. What kind of machines are we talking about? Everything from huge steam-driven turbines, large enough to power a city street, to a dinky little engine that runs a butter-churning machine. This museum is a combination of technological history, and Americana. Old gentlemen in blue-striped engineer outfits drove steam-propelled tractors around the grounds, blowing their whistles at imaginary obstacles. Other guys showed off antique farm machinery, that they had restored from a pile of rust. (The theme of this year=92s fair was, I kid you not, =93In Rust, We Trust.=94) Still others worked in a replica of a blacksmith=92s shop, demonstrating the fine points of the blacksmith=92s craft. <!------ OAS AD 'Middle' end ------> Strolling through the streets of this antique tractor fair, you could see continual improvements in technology. Old-fashioned wringer washing machines were on display. You could imagine how welcome a gas-powered agitator would=20be to a hard-working farm family, accustomed to washing and wringing their clothes by hand. You could see the improvements in farm implements, as a tractor took the place of a horse pulling a plow. Then the ordinary tractor made possible a whole series of more specialized attachments: a disk, a thresher, a combine. And how did all these improvements come about? If you just read the history books, you might think it was a series of small miracles that led from the horse-drawn plow to the modern air-conditioned tractor, equipped with TV and computer. In the nineteenth century, close to 80% of America worked in agriculture. Today=92s tractors allow a mere 8% of the population to plow the whole Mid West and feed America and much of the world. But looking around the grounds of this antique tractor museum, I believe I could see how those miracles took place. My husband truly loves these old machines. Each old engine prompted a story about how some old farmer must have figured out this or that about how to make something or other work better. My husband got excited as he explained to me that once you had figured out how to make a steam engine work, you could use that same engine for many purposes. You could use a drive belt to connect the engine to your washing machine, or to a saw mill. And he knew people of=20his grandfather=92s generation, who had done just that. They took the engine they normally used around the farmhouse, up into the woods when they had lumber to mill. As I watched my husband and the other guys, looking at antique engines with love in their eyes, I realized those men weren=92t just looking at old rusty machines. Every man there was filled with admiration for the men who made those machines, admiration for the lives they lived and the lives they made possible. These were once little boys who loved their toy trains and tractors and cars. They grew up to be men who make things happen, who look for a better way, and who figure out, one step at a time, easier and cheaper and safer ways to do things. These are men who honor the past, not by preserving it, but by building on it, improving it. I am convinced that men like these are the key to understanding the secret of American wealth. This is how all the little miracles of innovation took place. Because they owned their little farms and had the right to any improvements=20they made, American men had every incentive to find better ways and to share their knowledge with others. These men take pride in the fact that they can confront reality on reality=92s terms. They are accountable to reality in a way that=20no talking head or academic can truly be. Even when I was an academic myself, and even now when I am surrounded by talking heads, I love being married to an engineer. He keeps me grounded. The American way is about small business and individual initiative. Our country=92s system of private property and personal innovation harnesses the unique gifts of men and places those gifts at the service of the common good. We are a rich country because we turn little boys who love tractors into grown-up men who make things work better. <!--#include virtual"/includes/ads/ad-detail.inc" --> <EM>Dr. Morse is Research Fellow in Economics at the Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty, </EM>


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    Time: 06:32:45 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: in Rust We Trust
    Yow! I'm a liberal Democrat. Does that mean I have to give up my Pietenpol, sports cars, and venture capital pharmaceutical business? ;) At 9:04 AM -0500 10/31/05, Isablcorky@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/31/2005 6:57:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, >bgarrett@sport.rr.com writes: >Do not archive >Thought this article would interest our Piet group and also inform >some wives what we are all about > >In Rust We Trust: Men and Boys and the Wealth of their Toys > >Oct 31, 2005 >by ><http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contributors/JennniferRobackMorse.html>Jennifer >Roback Morse ( ><http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contributors/JennniferRobackMorse.html>bio >| ><http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contributors/JennniferRobackMorse/archive/2005/>archive >) > >I could never be a Leftist because the Left seems to hate two things >that I love: men and American business. > -- Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD Assistant Professor, Emory Eye Center, Atlanta, GA, USA Senior Editor, Molecular Vision, http://www.molvis.org/molvis mailto:jboatri@emory.edu


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    Time: 06:44:19 AM PST US
    From: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: in Rust We Trust
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com> Thanks Corky, I'll have to forward this to my wife, who married an engineer. Maybe she'll start to understand why I like to stop every time we drive by a "dirty old hangar", a lot full of "dirty old (antique) cars", "dirty old airplanes", and "dirty old buildings". Steve Ruse N6383J - O44 Norman, OK Quoting Isablcorky@aol.com: > In a message dated 10/31/2005 6:57:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, > bgarrett@sport.rr.com writes: > Do not archive > Thought this article would interest our Piet group and also inform some > wives what we are all about > > > In Rust We Trust: Men and Boys and the Wealth of their Toys > > Oct 31, 2005 > by _Jennifer Roback Morse_ > (http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contributors/JennniferRobackMorse.html) ( > _bio_ > (http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contributors/JennniferRobackMorse.html) | > _archive_ > (http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contributors/JennniferRobackMorse/archive/2005/) > ) > > I could never be a Leftist because the Left seems to hate two things that I > love: men and American business. > Male-bashing has developed into a full-blown art-form in this country. And > strangely enough, the male-bashing is often accompanied by the presumption > that men and women are the same in every significant way. No one > seems to notice > the logical conclusion: if men are bad, and women and men are the same, > ergo, women must be bad. But never mind. I love the men and boys in my life, > precisely because of the ways in which they differ from me. And many > aspects of > American business are distinctly ?guy things.? I love these parts of > American business too. > These two things, American men and American business came together for me > last weekend. My husband and I had a few blessed child-free hours, so we went > on a date. We went to the Antique Gas and Steam Engine fair, held two > week-ends a year on the grounds of the Museum of the same name, here > in Vista, > California. Male and female difference number one: My husband went to > look at the > antique steam engines. I went to look at my husband, and a whole lot > of other > guys, in their natural habitat. > What kind of machines are we talking about? Everything from huge > steam-driven turbines, large enough to power a city street, to a > dinky little engine > that runs a butter-churning machine. This museum is a combination of > technological history, and Americana. Old gentlemen in blue-striped > engineer outfits > drove steam-propelled tractors around the grounds, blowing their whistles at > imaginary obstacles. Other guys showed off antique farm machinery, that they > had restored from a pile of rust. (The theme of this year?s fair > was, I kid you > not, ?In Rust, We Trust.?) > Still others worked in a replica of a blacksmith?s shop, demonstrating the > fine points of the blacksmith?s craft. > Strolling through the streets of this antique tractor fair, you could see > continual improvements in technology. > Old-fashioned wringer washing machines were on display. You could imagine > how welcome a gas-powered agitator would be to a hard-working farm family, > accustomed to washing and wringing their clothes by hand. You could see the > improvements in farm implements, as a tractor took the place of a > horse pulling a > plow. Then the ordinary tractor made possible a whole series of more > specialized attachments: a disk, a thresher, a combine. > And how did all these improvements come about? If you just read the history > books, you might think it was a series of small miracles that led from the > horse-drawn plow to the modern air-conditioned tractor, equipped with TV and > computer. In the nineteenth century, close to 80% of America worked in > agriculture. Today?s tractors allow a mere 8% of the population to > plow the whole > Mid West and feed America and much of the world. But looking around the > grounds of this antique tractor museum, I believe I could see how > those miracles > took place. > My husband truly loves these old machines. Each old engine prompted a story > about how some old farmer must have figured out this or that about > how to make > something or other work better. My husband got excited as he explained to me > that once you had figured out how to make a steam engine work, you could use > that same engine for many purposes. > You could use a drive belt to connect the engine to your washing machine, or > to a saw mill. And he knew people of his grandfather?s generation, who had > done just that. They took the engine they normally used around the > farmhouse, > up into the woods when they had lumber to mill. > > As I watched my husband and the other guys, looking at antique engines with > love in their eyes, I realized those men weren?t just looking at old rusty > machines. Every man there was filled with admiration for the men who > made those > machines, admiration for the lives they lived and the lives they made > possible. These were once little boys who loved their toy trains and > tractors and > cars. They grew up to be men who make things happen, who look for a better > way, and who figure out, one step at a time, easier and cheaper and > safer ways > to do things. These are men who honor the past, not by preserving it, but by > building on it, improving it. > I am convinced that men like these are the key to understanding the secret > of American wealth. This is how all the little miracles of innovation took > place. Because they owned their little farms and had the right to any > improvements they made, American men had every incentive to find > better ways and to > share their knowledge with others. These men take pride in the fact > that they > can confront reality on reality?s terms. They are accountable to > reality in a > way that no talking head or academic can truly be. Even when I was > an academic > myself, and even now when I am surrounded by talking heads, I love being > married to an engineer. He keeps me grounded. > The American way is about small business and individual initiative. Our > country?s system of private property and personal innovation > harnesses the unique > gifts of men and places those gifts at the service of the common good. We > are a rich country because we turn little boys who love tractors into > grown-up > men who make things work better. > Dr. Morse is Research Fellow in Economics at the _Acton Institute for the > Study of Religion and Liberty_ (http://www.townhal > l.com/phrd.html?loc=http://www.acton.org/) , > > > Do not archive >


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    Time: 06:45:06 AM PST US
    From: Isablcorky@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fwd: in Rust We Trust
    I'm not a liberal or conservative, want to be just a plain American. Also ,not a shoe salesman so take the little article anyway you like and fit your own shoes. Corky


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    Time: 09:15:01 AM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: leading edge idea/sketch attached
    This seemed nuts at the time, but worked well ! Mike C.


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    From: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
    Subject: frapper site
    Just got a link from another group I'm on. They have a site hooked up with Google/maps, where by each member of a group puts in their stats and they become a stick pin on the map. New builders are always asking "Anyone near here, anyone near there?" Here's the link. http://www.frappr.com/ we should do it. Some of you computer savy guys check it out. walt evans NX140DL


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    Time: 12:48:22 PM PST US
    From: Ben Williams <benw@pdi.com>
    Subject: Re: frapper site
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Williams <benw@pdi.com> It's ready to go! The group name is "pietenpol". Ben w b evans wrote: > Just got a link from another group I'm on. They have a site hooked up > with Google/maps, where by each member of a group puts in their stats > and they become a stick pin on the map. New builders are always asking > "Anyone near here, anyone near there?" > Here's the link. > http://www.frappr.com/ > we should do it. > Some of you computer savy guys check it out. > walt evans > NX140DL


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    Time: 12:59:09 PM PST US
    Subject: frapper site
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Cool! I'm on it. Jack Phillips, PE Sr. Manager, Disposables Product Development Clinical Technologies and Services Cardinal Health Creedmoor, NC (919) 528-5212 -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Williams Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: frapper site --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Williams <benw@pdi.com> It's ready to go! The group name is "pietenpol". Ben w b evans wrote: > Just got a link from another group I'm on. They have a site hooked up > with Google/maps, where by each member of a group puts in their stats > and they become a stick pin on the map. New builders are always asking > "Anyone near here, anyone near there?" > Here's the link. > http://www.frappr.com/ > we should do it. > Some of you computer savy guys check it out. > walt evans > NX140DL


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    Time: 01:06:36 PM PST US
    Subject: frapper site
    From: Hans Vander Voort <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
    27, 2005) at 10/31/2005 10:03:30 PM --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Hans Vander Voort <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com> That's fun, I am on, don't forget pictures Hans


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    Time: 01:15:57 PM PST US
    From: "Mike King" <mikek120@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: frapper site
    I'm getting there Mike King GN-1 77MK Ponder, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: frapper site --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Cool! I'm on it. Jack Phillips, PE Sr. Manager, Disposables Product Development Clinical Technologies and Services Cardinal Health Creedmoor, NC (919) 528-5212 -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Williams Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 3:45 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: frapper site --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Williams <benw@pdi.com> It's ready to go! The group name is "pietenpol". Ben w b evans wrote: > Just got a link from another group I'm on. They have a site hooked up > with Google/maps, where by each member of a group puts in their stats > and they become a stick pin on the map. New builders are always asking > "Anyone near here, anyone near there?" > Here's the link. > http://www.frappr.com/ > we should do it. > Some of you computer savy guys check it out. > walt evans > NX140DL


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    Time: 01:19:14 PM PST US
    Subject: frapper site
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu> Me too. This is neat! Steve E -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
    [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillips, Jack Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: frapper site --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Cool! I'm on it. Jack Phillips, PE Sr. Manager, Disposables Product Development Clinical Technologies and Services Cardinal Health Creedmoor, NC (919) 528-5212 -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Williams Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: frapper site --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Williams <benw@pdi.com> It's ready to go! The group name is "pietenpol". Ben w b evans wrote: > Just got a link from another group I'm on. They have a site hooked up > with Google/maps, where by each member of a group puts in their stats > and they become a stick pin on the map. New builders are always asking > "Anyone near here, anyone near there?" > Here's the link. > http://www.frappr.com/ > we should do it. > Some of you computer savy guys check it out. > walt evans > NX140DL


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    Time: 01:20:03 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: frapper site
    Neat stuff! Google continues to amaze. (Well, amaze me, anyway!) At 3:24 PM -0500 10/31/05, w b evans wrote: >Just got a link from another group I'm on. They have a site hooked >up with Google/maps, where by each member of a group puts in their >stats and they become a stick pin on the map. New builders are >always asking "Anyone near here, anyone near there?" >Here's the link. ><http://www.frappr.com/>http://www.frappr.com/ >we should do it. >Some of you computer savy guys check it out. >walt evans >NX140DL -- Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD Assistant Professor, Emory Eye Center, Atlanta, GA, USA Senior Editor, Molecular Vision, http://www.molvis.org/molvis mailto:jboatri@emory.edu


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    Time: 01:31:16 PM PST US
    From: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: frapper site
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net> Ben, Great! Did you set it up? If I don't answer right away,,,cause i'm logging on. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Williams" <benw@pdi.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: frapper site > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Williams <benw@pdi.com> > > It's ready to go! > > The group name is "pietenpol". > > Ben > > w b evans wrote: >> Just got a link from another group I'm on. They have a site hooked up >> with Google/maps, where by each member of a group puts in their stats >> and they become a stick pin on the map. New builders are always asking >> "Anyone near here, anyone near there?" >> Here's the link. >> http://www.frappr.com/ >> we should do it. >> Some of you computer savy guys check it out. >> walt evans >> NX140DL > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:42:48 PM PST US
    From: "jetpilot" <jetpilot@clearwire.net>
    Subject: Re: frapper site (TACO)
    Stuck a TACO on the map at http://www.frappr.com/taco, and I didn't call it macaroni. I welcome all honorary TACOs to stab a pin on their respective locations. ----- Original Message ----- From: w b evans To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:24 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: frapper site Just got a link from another group I'm on. They have a site hooked up with Google/maps, where by each member of a group puts in their stats and they become a stick pin on the map. New builders are always asking "Anyone near here, anyone near there?" Here's the link. http://www.frappr.com/ we should do it. Some of you computer savy guys check it out. walt evans NX140DL


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    Time: 03:42:35 PM PST US
    From: Ben Williams <benw@pdi.com>
    Subject: Re: frapper site
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Williams <benw@pdi.com> Walt, I did set it up. That was a good idea of yours. By the way, I got the T-88 and it is amazingly strong stuff. I carefully followed the application instructions and then did break tests with both polyurethane glue (Elmer's Ultimate) and T-88. Wood broke 20% to 50% with the polyurethane. With T-88 it was always 100%. These are just my own observations using unscientific tests. Gotta go and build more ribs. Ben w b evans wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net> > > Ben, > Great! Did you set it up? > If I don't answer right away,,,cause i'm logging on. > walt evans > NX140DL


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    Time: 06:46:46 PM PST US
    From: <gcardinal@mn.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: frapper site
    Here is a link that takes right to the Pietenpol site. http://www.frappr.com/pietenpol ----- Original Message ----- From: w b evans To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:24 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: frapper site Just got a link from another group I'm on. They have a site hooked up with Google/maps, where by each member of a group puts in their stats and they become a stick pin on the map. New builders are always asking "Anyone near here, anyone near there?" Here's the link. http://www.frappr.com/ we should do it. Some of you computer savy guys check it out. walt evans NX140DL


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    Time: 08:44:19 PM PST US
    From: Javier Cruz <javcr@prodigy.net.mx>
    Subject: frapper site
    <"001d01c5de8e$719687a0$9dc6 8048"@ATO> Hi Piets Because it's hard to get epoxy varnish here (Mexico) i used Helmmes ... I have been testing the varnish with mek, the helmmes (green can) whit 10 days for cure it's not enough..it peels of the wood.. maybe whit more days? i checked polyurethane varnish (two components), and the mek disolve it .. i think that i need to get epoxy varnish ev400 and recover all wood that will be in contact whit fabric glue.. Javier Cruz Signed on the map.. cool site


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    Time: 10:41:44 PM PST US
    From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: frapper site
    <001d01c5de8e$719687a0$9dc68048@ATO> I'm in too. The map puts me in deepest darkest downtown but I'm actually down and to the right. On the highest magnification it's w 10th and Carnarvon. I can see my white tent with a Piet under it! :-) :-) I see Jim got plunked in the middle of a park. Clif Here is a link that takes right to the Pietenpol site. http://www.frappr.com/pietenpol




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