Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 11/12/05


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 08:13 AM - fatal gyro crash (Oscar Zuniga)
     2. 09:54 AM - Re: fatal gyro crash (Eric Williams)
     3. 11:41 AM - Highlight One (Matt Dralle)
     4. 03:26 PM - slow Piet list (Oscar Zuniga)
     5. 07:05 PM - Re: Disassembly and Re-Assembly (Larry Nelson)
     6. 07:14 PM - Re: Disassembly and Re-Assembly (Dave and Connie)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:13:22 AM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: fatal gyro crash
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Texas architect Ken Rehler fatally crashed in his award-winning gyro, N100KR. Pictures of Ken and his gyro, with details of the construction, are at http://www.rvk-architects.com/ken/gyro/ . The story in today's San Antonio Express-News is at http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/crime/stories/MYSA111105.rehler.en.501920b8.html No NTSB report yet. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 09:54:04 AM PST US
    From: "Eric Williams" <ewilliams805@msn.com>
    Subject: fatal gyro crash
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Eric Williams" <ewilliams805@msn.com> Very sad. Based on the article he sounds like a real nice guy. One positive aspect of the article was that it was well written and accurate as to the details of the gyro and didn't talk negatively about general aviation or security or anything. That's refreshing these days. Still, the basic point is that it's sad to see an innovator and true home-builder like him go. >From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com, krnet@mylist.net >Subject: Pietenpol-List: fatal gyro crash >Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:12:49 -0600 > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" ><taildrags@hotmail.com> > >Texas architect Ken Rehler fatally crashed in his award-winning gyro, >N100KR. Pictures of Ken and his gyro, with details of the construction, >are at http://www.rvk-architects.com/ken/gyro/ . The story in today's San >Antonio Express-News is at >http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/crime/stories/MYSA111105.rehler.en.501920b8.html > >No NTSB report yet. > >Oscar Zuniga >San Antonio, TX >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > >


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    Time: 11:41:12 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Highlight One
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Listers, Please make a Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List Forums at Matronics. There is no commercial advertising on any of the Lists to support their operation, and it is solely YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS that keeps these Lists up and running. Please take a second to make your Contribution today at the secure website: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Over the next few days I will be highlighting each one of the awesome Free Gifts available along with this year's List Fund Raiser. In most cases, these gifts have been either donated or provided at exceptional discounts by aviation vendors that participate regularly on these vary same Lists. I want to thank each of them for the generous support of the Lists during this Fund Raiser. Please show your support for their efforts by visiting their respective web sites. Thank you for your kind support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ------------------------------------------- Gift Highlight Number One - List Archive CD ------------------------------------------- With your $50 or greater Contribution, you can register to receive a free copy of the Matronics Email List Archive CDROM. This CD contains well over 500MB of List Archive data! Archives for each List are available on the CD and each date back to the respective List's inception. Also included is a copy of BF Gibbion's List Search Engine along with a pre-compiled index for each List. Archives are stored on the CD in standard ASCII Text format and you can use any number of other programs to view and modify the data according to your personal preferences. This is a great resource that everyone that's ever been subscribed to a Matronics List should have in their library! The CD will be created with archives current as of December 1 of 2005. To receive your copy, head over to the List Contribution Web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution do not archive


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    Time: 03:26:37 PM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: slow Piet list
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Sure has been quiet on the list lately. That being the case, I'll take up some space by saying that I worked on rebuilding the pilot's seat this past week and today. Took out the broken seat bottom, seat back, and seat framing and scraped back to fresh wood. Cut, fitted, and glued in new seat framing members. Measured, cut, and getting ready to install the seat bottom plywood with some "inspection holes" cut in it to get to the cables and pullies down there. Corky used pullies to route the cables under the seat, rather than drilled holes as shown in the plans. As long as I'm in there, I'm fabricating an experimental elevator trim control using the "ball chain" method and a bungee off the elevator bellcrank behind the seat. If it works, I'll draw a sketch or put some photos on my website. For now, it's just an idea and I don't know if it will work. It presupposes that nose-up trim will be required, so I'll have to rig it that way or else try something else later. Corky had a bungee setup that wrapped around the pilot's stick and could be slid up or down the stick to give more or less back stick force, and I can always revert to that setup if my scheme doesn't work. Jumped into the front seat to show a hangar bum how easy it is to do. Ha! It's still a trick to get into that front 'pit, and once into it, there isn't a whole lot of room anyway. I can't imagine trying to get in there wearing a parka and snow boots, but Santa's helpers seem to manage it every Christmas and the jolly old gent can still slide his own tummy into the pilot's 'pit somehow, too. He just doesn't have a lot of back stick in the flare, with the stick all the way back and his belly sucked up to get that extra few inches... Sure is fun hanging around the airport on a Saturday, working on the Pietenpol! Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 07:05:57 PM PST US
    From: Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Disassembly and Re-Assembly
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com> Let's say a guy pulls the wings off of a Pietenpol and hauls it across the country to a fly-in and then re-assembles it. With a three piece wing, it wouldn't be more than an hour to put the wings back on. What I am talking about is the need for an A&P to sign off the work. I have a "friend" who has hauled his across the country, and while it has since gone thru an annual, no mention has been made of the dis-mantlement, and the subsequent re-mantlement. Has my "friend" got himself in trouble? I think of this dilemma as I visited the website of the unfortunate victim of the fatal crash of his gyroplane, as he had hauled that thing all over creation to different fly-ins. So...what ARE the rules about this. Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A Cessna 195 N9883A Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH 1963 GMC 4106-1618 SV/ Spirit of America ARS WB0JOT __________________________________


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    Time: 07:14:27 PM PST US
    From: Dave and Connie <dmatt@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Disassembly and Re-Assembly
    <20051113030515.89141.qmail@web53706.mail.yahoo.com> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave and Connie <dmatt@frontiernet.net> If he is the builder and has the repairman's certificate for that tail number then he is qualified to do the condition on that airframe. And thus he can do just about anything he wants to it. Otherwise that one would probably require an A&P sign off as a major repair as it is re-rigging of the plane. Dave N36078 '41 BC-12-65 At 10:05 PM 11/12/2005, you wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com> > > >Let's say a guy pulls the wings off of a Pietenpol and >hauls it across the country to a fly-in and then >re-assembles it. With a three piece wing, it wouldn't >be more than an hour to put the wings back on. What I >am talking about is the need for an A&P to sign off >the work. I have a "friend" who has hauled his across >the country, and while it has since gone thru an >annual, no mention has been made of the >dis-mantlement, and the subsequent re-mantlement. Has >my "friend" got himself in trouble? > >I think of this dilemma as I visited the website of >the unfortunate victim of the fatal crash of his >gyroplane, as he had hauled that thing all over >creation to different fly-ins. So...what ARE the rules >about this. > >Larry Nelson >Springfield, MO >Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A >Cessna 195 N9883A >Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH >1963 GMC 4106-1618 >SV/ Spirit of America >ARS WB0JOT > > >__________________________________ > > >-- >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > >-- incoming mail is certified Virus Free.




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