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1. 12:11 AM - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? (Matt Dralle)
2. 06:41 AM - Re: Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? ()
3. 09:35 AM - Re: Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? (Matt Dralle)
4. 11:08 AM - pix and report from Corvair College 9 (Oscar Zuniga)
5. 11:29 AM - flour bomb design (Sayre, William G)
6. 12:50 PM - Spring Shocks (Isablcorky@aol.com)
7. 05:45 PM - Re: Spring Shocks (Catdesign)
8. 07:21 PM - Re: External stringers (Dick Navratil)
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| Subject: | Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
I was thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser
and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List
Services here provide a better experience than the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved
with running a high performance email list site such as this
one. With the annual support from the List members through the
PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run the entire site without
having to inflect any of the members with those annoying banner ads
flashing up all the time trying to sell Toner Cartridge Refills or
other garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received
over the years regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members
really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't
mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage members to
support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many
benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The
first feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you
cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these Lists
directly. I've been on a few other List servers and have been
unfortunate enough to download infected files people have innocently
or not-so-innocently included with their posts. This just can't
happen with the Matronics Lists; each incoming message is filtered
and dangerous attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a
Photo and File Share feature that allows members to share files and
bitmaps with other members and everyone can be assured that these
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posted. Safe and simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing
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bitmap "data" that slows the Archive Search times.
Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that
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feature of the Archives is that they have been primarily stripped of
all the useless email header garbage that seems to build up in a
typical email thread.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com
domain since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and
who where also building RVs. It has grown into well over 50
different aviation-related Email Lists and an associated web site
that receives over 17,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally, the
List email system forwards well over 32,000,000 (yes, that's 32
MILLION) email messages to subscribers each year! With all the
dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value in supporting a
service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
improving a high quality service all without any advertising budget!
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it
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Matt Dralle
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| Subject: | Re: Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <lebrandt@charter.net>
Matt
I made my contribution via my visa card but the site did not have the https: I
was looking for. I thought maybe it would would change when I hit send but it
dod not. I sure hope my credit card number is floating around in cyberspace. I
would have thought that nwhen I indicatedd that I wanted to contribute with my
plastic that the site would have had an https address!
I only use one list and don't follow it very closely so I sure hoep I am save.
You may want to make sure it's an encrypoted site.
Thanks
Leroy
>
> From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> Date: 2005/11/17 Thu AM 03:10:00 EST
> To: dralle@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year?
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
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> Dear Listers,
>
> I was thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser
> and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List
> Services here provide a better experience than the commercial equivalents.
>
> I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved
> with running a high performance email list site such as this
> one. With the annual support from the List members through the
> PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run the entire site without
> having to inflect any of the members with those annoying banner ads
> flashing up all the time trying to sell Toner Cartridge Refills or
> other garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received
> over the years regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members
> really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't
> mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage members to
> support the Lists.
>
> I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many
> benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The
> first feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you
> cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these Lists
> directly. I've been on a few other List servers and have been
> unfortunate enough to download infected files people have innocently
> or not-so-innocently included with their posts. This just can't
> happen with the Matronics Lists; each incoming message is filtered
> and dangerous attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a
> Photo and File Share feature that allows members to share files and
> bitmaps with other members and everyone can be assured that these
> files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are
> posted. Safe and simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing
> technique, the Archives don't get loaded up with a huge amounts of
> bitmap "data" that slows the Archive Search times.
>
> Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that
> are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go
> all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the
> super fast Search Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a
> non-issue in quickly finding the data you're looking for. Another
> feature of the Archives is that they have been primarily stripped of
> all the useless email header garbage that seems to build up in a
> typical email thread.
>
> I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com
> domain since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and
> who where also building RVs. It has grown into well over 50
> different aviation-related Email Lists and an associated web site
> that receives over 17,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally, the
> List email system forwards well over 32,000,000 (yes, that's 32
> MILLION) email messages to subscribers each year! With all the
> dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value in supporting a
> service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
> improving a high quality service all without any advertising budget!
>
> I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it
> shows in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get
> a List Email Message, Search the Archives, or use the List
> Browser. The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you
> just want to lurk a while for free, that's great and I encourage you
> to do so. If you use, appreciate, and receive value from these
> Lists, then please support them during the Annual List Fund Raiser!
>
> The Secure Contribution Web Site:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> Thank you,
>
> Matt Dralle
> Email List Administrator
>
>
>
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> Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Re: Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Leroy,
I just went through the web logs for all of November and verified that all credit
card list contribution submissions were done using SSL encryption and they
were. I found your entry and it was indeed a secure transaction.
Thank you for the Contribution!
Matt Dralle
List Admin
At 06:41 AM 11/17/2005 Thursday, you wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <lebrandt@charter.net>
>
>Matt
>I made my contribution via my visa card but the site did not have the https: I
was looking for. I thought maybe it would would change when I hit send but it
dod not. I sure hope my credit card number is floating around in cyberspace.
I would have thought that nwhen I indicatedd that I wanted to contribute with
my plastic that the site would have had an https address!
>I only use one list and don't follow it very closely so I sure hoep I am save.
You may want to make sure it's an encrypoted site.
>Thanks
>Leroy
>>
>> From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>> Date: 2005/11/17 Thu AM 03:10:00 EST
>> To: dralle@matronics.com
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year?
>>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>>
>>
>> Dear Listers,
>>
>> I was thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser
>> and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List
>> Services here provide a better experience than the commercial equivalents.
>>
>> I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved
>> with running a high performance email list site such as this
>> one. With the annual support from the List members through the
>> PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run the entire site without
>> having to inflect any of the members with those annoying banner ads
>> flashing up all the time trying to sell Toner Cartridge Refills or
>> other garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received
>> over the years regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members
>> really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't
>> mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage members to
>> support the Lists.
>>
>> I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many
>> benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The
>> first feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you
>> cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these Lists
>> directly. I've been on a few other List servers and have been
>> unfortunate enough to download infected files people have innocently
>> or not-so-innocently included with their posts. This just can't
>> happen with the Matronics Lists; each incoming message is filtered
>> and dangerous attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a
>> Photo and File Share feature that allows members to share files and
>> bitmaps with other members and everyone can be assured that these
>> files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are
>> posted. Safe and simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing
>> technique, the Archives don't get loaded up with a huge amounts of
>> bitmap "data" that slows the Archive Search times.
>>
>> Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that
>> are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go
>> all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the
>> super fast Search Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a
>> non-issue in quickly finding the data you're looking for. Another
>> feature of the Archives is that they have been primarily stripped of
>> all the useless email header garbage that seems to build up in a
>> typical email thread.
>>
>> I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com
>> domain since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and
>> who where also building RVs. It has grown into well over 50
>> different aviation-related Email Lists and an associated web site
>> that receives over 17,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally, the
>> List email system forwards well over 32,000,000 (yes, that's 32
>> MILLION) email messages to subscribers each year! With all the
>> dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value in supporting a
>> service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
>> improving a high quality service all without any advertising budget!
>>
>> I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it
>> shows in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get
>> a List Email Message, Search the Archives, or use the List
>> Browser. The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you
>> just want to lurk a while for free, that's great and I encourage you
>> to do so. If you use, appreciate, and receive value from these
>> Lists, then please support them during the Annual List Fund Raiser!
>>
>> The Secure Contribution Web Site:
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Matt Dralle
>> Email List Administrator
>>
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
do not archive
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| Subject: | pix and report from Corvair College 9 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
... are on William's website, at http://www.flycorvair.com/cc9a.html
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | flour bomb design |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sayre, William G" <william.g.sayre@boeing.com>
Since there's been discussions on smoke system designs and toilet paper
bombs, has anyone played with different designs for flour bombs? I'm
thinking about quarter of a paper lunch bag full but can't decide
whether to roll it up or leave it shaped like a tear-drop. There's the
chance of rippage (pre-detonation, which rolling it up would help avoid)
versus a nice plumb of floor upon impact to consider.
Anyone "been there, done that"?
Bill
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Pieters,
I'm holding a page from the "Pietenpol Construction New" undated. Top half
of page has two letters and a captioned picture of a Piet underway. The lower
half deals with the "Landing Gear Strut-Coil Spring Shock absorbing" There is
a fine technical drawing of the device. It lists the coil spring as an "H-56
-Lamina-3/4IDX 1 1/2 ODX6 inches". Even though I have completed my gear and
shocks I'm fearful that the coils are too strong and should be changed.
Would anyone know the source of these H-56 Lamina springs. Would sure
appreciate some help on this one.
Corky in Cool Louisiana
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Shocks |
See their webpage for a catalog ( http://www.anchorlamina.com )
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For a distributor near you, please contact:
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Tel. (248) 489-9122
Fax. (248) 553-6842 or (800) 406-4410
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Spring Shocks
Pieters,
I'm holding a page from the "Pietenpol Construction New" undated. Top half of
page has two letters and a captioned picture of a Piet underway. The lower half
deals with the "Landing Gear Strut-Coil Spring Shock absorbing" There is a
fine technical drawing of the device. It lists the coil spring as an "H-56 -Lamina-3/4IDX
1 1/2 ODX6 inches". Even though I have completed my gear and shocks
I'm fearful that the coils are too strong and should be changed.
Would anyone know the source of these H-56 Lamina springs. Would sure appreciate
some help on this one.
Corky in Cool Louisiana
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| Subject: | Re: External stringers |
Mike
My side stringers taper down and end forward of the start of the horiz stabilizer.
That makes for a flat appearance at the tail.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Green
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:30 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: External stringers
Hi All,
Just wanting to know what you guys have done at the tail end with the external
stringers for the fabric stand off. I was trying to avoid adding the 1/4"x1/2"
stringer to both sides of the vertical section of the tail to prevent having
a "fat" tail post leading into a "skinny" rudder but having pondered about
it for a day, seem to think it's the easiest option.
Any advise/criticism welcome.
Mike Green
Romsey,
Victoria,
AUSTRALIA.
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