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1. 06:13 AM - FAA Medical (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
2. 07:09 AM - Re: FAA Medical (harvey rule)
3. 09:41 AM - Re: LSA rules (gbowen@ptialaska.net)
4. 03:22 PM - Re: FAA Medical (Galen Hutcheson)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
Wow Gordon! You covered a lot of angles about keeping your medical that
I had never thought of, but I Only fly for fun, not professionally.If my
problem had started showing up as a "blip" ( like elevated blood
pressure ) on earlier physicals or given me some sort of sign in
advance, I knew about taking a pre physical and might have done some
things differently. Unfortunately my first "red flag' came as I was
driving home one morning (in the truck) 30 miles north of town. No
hospitals there, so I keep on trucking. If I were flying I could have
easily landed the plane. Leon S. Ks---Trucker to the end. Even with a
heart attack going on, I did all the right "trucker things" I kept on
hand on the wheel, one hand on the gear shift, one hand holding my cup
of coffee, one hand on the CB. microphone telling others where "smokies"
at, and the other hand tuning the radio to my favorite country station.
The hard part came when I got to town. The terminal was 2 miles east,
and the hospital was 1 mile west. Which way to go? Since I was still
alive after 30 minuets, I made a beeline to the terminal which sets in
a bad part of town. I wasn't going to let my pickup set exposed for who
knows how long.I tossed them the keys, told them whats up and drove to
the hospital. Here I am setting at the key board, so the story
obviously had a happy ending. Again, Leon S. in Ks. with a LOT to be
thankful for. Yesterday and every day.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
At altitude things are different my friend.Pressures are different and
changing all the time.In an airplane you may not have made it.Heres a
tip though I did find out not too long ago;if you are having what you
think is a heart attack apparently if you cough and hard coughing by the
way,it just may save your life.It is a form of self CPR.I've never had
the opportunity to try this and I hope I never have to but somebody put
this out on the internet and they seem to think it will work.I've yet to
talk to a doctor about it.Maybe one of the Piet pilots out there may be
a doctor and know if this thing will work??????????????Keep on truckin!
Leon Stefan wrote:
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> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
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> Wow Gordon! You covered a lot of angles about keeping your medical that
> I had never thought of, but I Only fly for fun, not professionally.If my
> problem had started showing up as a "blip" ( like elevated blood
> pressure ) on earlier physicals or given me some sort of sign in
> advance, I knew about taking a pre physical and might have done some
> things differently. Unfortunately my first "red flag' came as I was
> driving home one morning (in the truck) 30 miles north of town. No
> hospitals there, so I keep on trucking. If I were flying I could have
> easily landed the plane. Leon S. Ks---Trucker to the end. Even with a
> heart attack going on, I did all the right "trucker things" I kept on
> hand on the wheel, one hand on the gear shift, one hand holding my cup
> of coffee, one hand on the CB. microphone telling others where "smokies"
> at, and the other hand tuning the radio to my favorite country station.
> The hard part came when I got to town. The terminal was 2 miles east,
> and the hospital was 1 mile west. Which way to go? Since I was still
> alive after 30 minuets, I made a beeline to the terminal which sets in
> a bad part of town. I wasn't going to let my pickup set exposed for who
> knows how long.I tossed them the keys, told them whats up and drove to
> the hospital. Here I am setting at the key board, so the story
> obviously had a happy ending. Again, Leon S. in Ks. with a LOT to be
> thankful for. Yesterday and every day.
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
The real problem with FAA regs is: there seems to be a lot of grey area in
what is a "disqualifing condition". Anyway--- the FAA has a weasel clause
reg that states: any PIC that knows they have "any" condition that means
that they shouldn't fly, cannot fly "legally". My problem is no medical
means no valid airplane insurance. The FAA weasel clause gives the
insurance companies the weaselling clause they need. No medical means also
I cannot rent airplanes, get flight school training or even be valid in a
flying club. Trapped like a rat until the FAA's med. div. opens the cage.
Keep on Truckin' Leon, with one more hand you could be eating a big mac,
too. I read a medical report a couple weeks ago that says "scary"
rollercoasters have been known to cause Atrial Fib. Driving a 1/2 full
tanker truck on icy roads can be mighty scary, so can being chased around a
tree a couple years ago by an irate momma moose. Best reason sofar to
explain the unexplained.
Gordon Bowen
Homer AK
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From: Galen Hutcheson wacopitts@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: LSA rules
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
I agree that if you know you have a disqualifing
condition, you should NOT attempt to get a medical.
You will find no friends in the aeromedical people and
you run the risk of having to spend mega-bucks trying
keep your medical. I am an ex-AME and I know that
once you are denied a medical, then the rat race is on
and you most probably will not get your medical
without a fight and without spending a ton of money.
I believe that the LSA is the FAA's way of letting us
keep flying when we otherwise would be grounded. The
medical rules, despite how ambigouous they are, are
stamped in granite and are unlikely to change anytime
soon. If you want to keep flying then the LSA in the
best way to do it.
Doc (H) Do Not Archive
--- "gbowen@ptialaska.net" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
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> don't let
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> Gordon Bowen
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Harvey, I am a retired MD and this technique is news
to me. I cannot see how it would be of any benifit as
it takes a great deal of pressure on the chest to in
order to compress the heart between the sternum and
posterior chest wall to pump the blood necessary to
give circulation of life saving blood. I don't think
a cough would be sufficient enough to create that
circulation. During a heart attack, the heart will
usually continue to pump depending on the extent and
location of the ischemia (lack of oxygen). The heart
will fail only if a lot of heart muscle is damaged or
the muscle cells invloved in the electrical pathway
are compromised. The most common cause for loss of
circulation is ventricular fibrilation or V-Fib. Here
chest compressions (along with mouth to mouth
breathing) can maintain life until de-fibrilation can
be accomplished. I would not feel comfortable with
simply coughing. Knowing and understanding the
warning signs of an MI (myocardial infarction or heart
attack) should be learned and could be life saving.
Taking an asprin at the onset of symptoms has good
benifit in limiting the damage to the heart. Good
checkups and healthy lifestyles are even better. Hope
this is helpful.
Doc (H) Do Not Archive
-Maybe one of the Piet
> pilots out there may be
> a doctor and know if this thing will
> work??????????????Keep on truckin!
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