---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/27/05: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:41 PM - Just A Few More Days Left; Lagging Behind Last Year... (Matt Dralle) 2. 03:06 PM - steel fittings & bracing wires (tmbrant1@netzero.com) 3. 03:34 PM - Re: steel fittings & bracing wires (Peter W Johnson) 4. 05:17 PM - Replacing A65 with C85 (Jeff Boatright) 5. 07:36 PM - Re: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them) (Mark) 6. 08:25 PM - Brads Used During Fuse Construction (Glenn Thomas) 7. 09:11 PM - How much weld is needed for lift strut? (Jim Markle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:41:59 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Just A Few More Days Left; Lagging Behind Last Year... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, There are just four more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser! Response has been very good, but we are behind last year as far as the number of people that have made a Contribution and as a percentage of the total number of subscribers. Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means I have of keeping these Lists running through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:01 PM PST US From: "tmbrant1@netzero.com" Subject: Pietenpol-List: steel fittings & bracing wires --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.com" On the plans sheet of the "improved" air camper from the Pietenpol family, the dwg of the extended fuselage has some metal fittings on the bottom of the sheet. One of the fittings just says "Up to wing". What is this piece for? It appears to be an engine mount fitting but I don't get the tab on top. I'm working on the tail section and wondering what people are using for bracing wire, turnbuckles, etc.. Tom B. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:34:21 PM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: steel fittings & bracing wires --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Peter W Johnson" Tom, It provides the bottom fitting for the front cabane strut. (It is used instead of cross bracing between front and rear cockpits. Check out the "Control Cables" under "Material Lists" of http://www.cpc-world.com for details on turnbuckles etc. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tmbrant1@netzero.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: steel fittings & bracing wires --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.com" On the plans sheet of the "improved" air camper from the Pietenpol family, the dwg of the extended fuselage has some metal fittings on the bottom of the sheet. One of the fittings just says "Up to wing". What is this piece for? It appears to be an engine mount fitting but I don't get the tab on top. I'm working on the tail section and wondering what people are using for bracing wire, turnbuckles, etc.. Tom B. -- -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:33 PM PST US <4388B588.1020301@sympatico.ca> From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Pietenpol-List: Replacing A65 with C85 --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright We're swapping our A65 for a C85 on our Piet. What type of prop is best with C85s on Piets? Pitch, diameter, thickness? Also, the new engine, which has starter and generator, will weight at least 50 lbs more. This will change weight and balance, of course. Some people say that the wing can be moved fore or aft to compensate for W&B changes. Others say that this is not really true since such movement would alter the relationship of center of lift to landing gear. What is the list's wisdom on this? Any information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Jeff ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:26 PM PST US From: Mark Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them) --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Sterling wrote: > If a private pilot is in need of renewing his or her 3rd Class > Medical, and if that same pilot is now taking blood pressure > medication for BP that is a tad high, not to mention Lipitor for goo > in the blood, and if the 3rd Class is denied by the FAA because by > law, the new medication has to be reported (because t is a felony not > to report the new meds) the way I read the regs, is that pilot > *CAN'T* fly under the new Sport Pilot LSA class. > > The regs seem to suggest if you blow the physical, *you can't use your > drivers license to suggest you are healthy enough to fly under the LSA.* > ** > The way I see keeping this simple, is to* NOT* take the 3rd Class > physical and simply fly under the LSA regs, with your driver's license > allowing for the LSA and everyone is happy (right)... > > Sterling > Sterling the Liptor probably will not be a problem as long as everything else is ok, but the blood pressure meds will require some extra tests. If they don't turn up anything it may not be that big of a deal, but if they do it might get expensive. Yes they have to be reported, and yes once you start the process you are committed as far as LSA goes, but not every prescription med is disqualifying. The best resource I have found is the AOPA medical certification branch. It alone is worth the price of dues. They keep up on this type of stuff an can give you good solid information on which to base a sound decision about your flying future ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:35 PM PST US From: "Glenn Thomas" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brads Used During Fuse Construction I was looking at pictures on http://www.kitplanes.com and one step of the project was the addition of the ply sides to the fuse. Prior to applying the T-88, hundreds of nails were started over markings on the plywood so that it could be quickly nailed down before the adhesive cured. I have also read that the nails should be removed. I haven't actually done any building yet because I'm still trying to put together a plan. Would it be ok to place a strip of cheap thin plywood or luan where the nails go so that after the glue sets you can pull the nails out by simply removing the top strip of plywood? To make my question clear you would nail through the strip of plywood/luan and then through the fuselage plywood into the spars so that you could remove the nails by removing the top strip of wood. It just seems like you'd really be digging up the surface of the plywood trying to get all those nails out. If this is a valid idea would you just purchase nails long enough to compensate for that top strip of plywood that you use or would you be able to go deep enough with the nails most people use? Is there a reason why this wouldn't be a good idea? Maybe the builder's manual goes into this. I've been focusing on the motor now since winter is settling in and I have a warm (small) place to work when it's cold and have the wood work planned for the early spring. Glenn Thomas ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:53 PM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Pietenpol-List: How much weld is needed for lift strut? Can someone tell me the secret to "wrapping" the 1" X 13ga strip "around" the tubing in the upper strut fitting per the attached detail? Seems that this process would put a lot of stress on the 13ga, but maybe if it's done right, it's ok... So I'm thiniking just heat up the strip and wrap it around the tubing then using a vise or some kind of clamp, squeeze the strip "tight" right up next to the tubing...all the while keeping it red hot...hmmm. Also, if the gap between the wing attach strips is 1" and the fitting is 1", then some weld would increase the fitting to more than an inch...in which case the weld would have to be ground down...is grinding down the excess (over 1" thick) acceptable in this case? Am I right or is there another (better) way to do this? Thanks Jim in Plano...