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1. 02:52 AM - Re: Medical (Lou Wither)
2. 07:33 AM - Re: Medical (Galen Hutcheson)
3. 07:43 AM - Re: Medical (Nick Harris)
4. 07:54 AM - Re: Medical (Sterling)
5. 07:56 AM - Re: Medical (Sterling)
6. 08:04 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 12/08/05 (Tim Willis)
7. 09:16 AM - Re: Medical (harvey rule)
8. 10:09 AM - Re: Medical (Galen Hutcheson)
9. 10:30 AM - Re: Medical (Galen Hutcheson)
10. 12:24 PM - Re: Medical (Richard L. Dery)
11. 12:37 PM - approved medications (Michael D Cuy)
12. 12:44 PM - BP limits (Michael D Cuy)
13. 07:46 PM - Arbor press (Rick Holland)
14. 07:54 PM - Re: Medical (gbowen@ptialaska.net)
15. 08:17 PM - Re: Arbor press ()
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I believe this is a published number. I don't have the regs in front of me but
I think the max is 145/90. I know the AME told me last year that the feds wanted
to lower it. I get my second class each year with medicated numbers in the
130/85 area.
Lou Wither
N799LJ
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Nick, the upper number (systolic) is normal. The
lower number (diastolic) is within range for FAA
purposes, but is higher than it should be. Blood
pressure is dynamic and fluctuates throughout the day
so one blood pressure reading in not that accurate.
You need serial blood pressure readings and can do
this by buying an inexpensive blood pressure monitor
at any drug store and taking several readings
throughout the day and on several days. You also need
to take stock of things that can cause blood pressure
elevation, ie. stress, salt intake, obesity,
inactivity, cold medications (decongestants) etc. Not
only would this be important for the FAA medical, it
could help prevent a heart attack or stroke which
certainly would knock you out of your medical. Hope
this helps.
Doc (H) Do Not Archive
--- Nick Harris <nharris25@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I had my blood pressure checked today and it was
> 130/86. Will this mess up my medical. My medical
> is not current right now, but was about to get it
> done.
> Nick Harris
> nharris25@yahoo.com
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Thanks for the info guys! I'm only 31 so I guess I need to lay off the cheeseburgers:)
Nick Harris
nharris25@yahoo.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Lou Wither
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Medical
I believe this is a published number. I don't have the regs in front of me but
I think the max is 145/90. I know the AME told me last year that the feds
wanted to lower it. I get my second class each year with medicated numbers in
the 130/85 area.
Lou Wither
N799LJ
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sterling" <sterling@pgrb.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Galen Hutcheson" <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Medical
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson
<wacopitts@yahoo.com>
>
> Nick, the upper number (systolic) is normal. The
> lower number (diastolic) is within range for FAA
> purposes, but is higher than it should be. Blood
> pressure is dynamic and fluctuates throughout the day
> so one blood pressure reading in not that accurate.
> You need serial blood pressure readings and can do
> this by buying an inexpensive blood pressure monitor
> at any drug store and taking several readings
> throughout the day and on several days. You also need
> to take stock of things that can cause blood pressure
> elevation, ie. stress, salt intake, obesity,
> inactivity, cold medications (decongestants) etc. Not
> only would this be important for the FAA medical, it
> could help prevent a heart attack or stroke which
> certainly would knock you out of your medical. Hope
> this helps.
>
> Doc (H) Do Not Archive
>
> --- Nick Harris <nharris25@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey guys,
> > I had my blood pressure checked today and it was
> > 130/86. Will this mess up my medical. My medical
> > is not current right now, but was about to get it
> > done.
> > Nick Harris
> > nharris25@yahoo.com
>
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sterling" <sterling@pgrb.com>
Doc:
Is it true that by taking Asprin, Ginko and Flaxseed effectively act as
blood thinners and can reduce blood pressure levels?
I had my last cup of coffee this morning for the remainder of December as I
look forward to my 3rd class prior to Christmas.
Sterling
----- Original Message -----
From: "Galen Hutcheson" <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Medical
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson
<wacopitts@yahoo.com>
>
> Nick, the upper number (systolic) is normal. The
> lower number (diastolic) is within range for FAA
> purposes, but is higher than it should be. Blood
> pressure is dynamic and fluctuates throughout the day
> so one blood pressure reading in not that accurate.
> You need serial blood pressure readings and can do
> this by buying an inexpensive blood pressure monitor
> at any drug store and taking several readings
> throughout the day and on several days. You also need
> to take stock of things that can cause blood pressure
> elevation, ie. stress, salt intake, obesity,
> inactivity, cold medications (decongestants) etc. Not
> only would this be important for the FAA medical, it
> could help prevent a heart attack or stroke which
> certainly would knock you out of your medical. Hope
> this helps.
>
> Doc (H) Do Not Archive
>
> --- Nick Harris <nharris25@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey guys,
> > I had my blood pressure checked today and it was
> > 130/86. Will this mess up my medical. My medical
> > is not current right now, but was about to get it
> > done.
> > Nick Harris
> > nharris25@yahoo.com
>
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 12/08/05 |
Oscar,
I got one of the heads off. The wedges might have worked a little bit to loosen
things, but they kept splitting. Then I got to thinking, "Wait, I am not using
these 1964 heads, anyway." So I started hitting upwards on the four corners
of the head with a 3 pound hand sledge, and it started coming loose. I found
mud-dauber wasp nests in all cylinders, as I expected. Otherwise things still
look good up to now. On to the other side this weekend.
Thanks for monitoring WW's site for us all. I looked with interest at the head
rework price of WW's new source. Over $900 plus freight seems high. Of course,
that price actually includes a lot of parts and labor, too. I am not even
sure what rework I will really need yet. Let's talk about that later.
In other business, yesterday I talked with Bob Siebert, a guy here in the local
EAA chapter. He had built, flown and then later, finally crashed a Piet on
takeoff. He was an experienced pilot and builder and had many hours in his RV
that he had already built. It had to be a terrible feeling. He was taking
off from a grass strip in a strong 45 degree crosswind, and the left wing lifted
too far for him to correct with left rudder and ailerons. The right wing caught
the ground, and then many things happened: the prop and right LG broke,
the right wing spars and many ribs broke, and even the fuze cracked. After he
got out of the plane safely, the wind caught the wreck and put it over on its
back, wrecking the tail as well. Later he salvaged all the could and set fire
to the wreck. (This happened too long ago for either of us to get the Piet
metal fittings, as he had already sold them to a Piet builder.)
I asked him what I should learn and apply from his experience. He said that
I should build the plane because it is a great project and a lot of fun, but it
is a "clear weather plane." He added that a friend of his with a Piet has described
flying them as "churning butter in the cockpit" on a windy day. I think
we have heard many such impressions before.
This tells me that:
-- getting more room in the cockpit might be not just a good idea for comfort,
but critical for room to actuate the controls quickly and safely, given my
oversized body.
-- building this Piet with a taller (and thus less masked) rudder and wider
(L-to-R) ailerons (1-2 more ribs' width) might be a really good thing, too.
To get better empirical data and a feel for the problem, I have ordered Chuck
Gantzer's video when it is available. I'll be happy to loan it to you right
after I have quickly viewed it. Then we should discuss after you have seen it.
Chuck should have his video out pretty soon, so maybe we can be better informed
by the end of the year.
We should plan to meet in S.A. sometime, perhaps in January. I would like to
see your planes and hear more of your ideas for vortex generators.
Tim
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
If you refrain from drinking coffee you blood pressure goes down quite a
bit.Just refrain the day of the test then go back on.Works for me.
Galen Hutcheson wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
>
> Nick, the upper number (systolic) is normal. The
> lower number (diastolic) is within range for FAA
> purposes, but is higher than it should be. Blood
> pressure is dynamic and fluctuates throughout the day
> so one blood pressure reading in not that accurate.
> You need serial blood pressure readings and can do
> this by buying an inexpensive blood pressure monitor
> at any drug store and taking several readings
> throughout the day and on several days. You also need
> to take stock of things that can cause blood pressure
> elevation, ie. stress, salt intake, obesity,
> inactivity, cold medications (decongestants) etc. Not
> only would this be important for the FAA medical, it
> could help prevent a heart attack or stroke which
> certainly would knock you out of your medical. Hope
> this helps.
>
> Doc (H) Do Not Archive
>
> --- Nick Harris <nharris25@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey guys,
> > I had my blood pressure checked today and it was
> > 130/86. Will this mess up my medical. My medical
> > is not current right now, but was about to get it
> > done.
> > Nick Harris
> > nharris25@yahoo.com
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
That's one of them for sure, but not everyone's blood
pressure responds the same to caffieene, probably a
tolerence thing.
Doc (H) Do Not Archive
--- harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule
> <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
>
> If you refrain from drinking coffee you blood
> pressure goes down quite a
> bit.Just refrain the day of the test then go back
> on.Works for me.
>
> Galen Hutcheson wrote:
> >
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen
> Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Nick, the upper number (systolic) is normal. The
> > lower number (diastolic) is within range for FAA
> > purposes, but is higher than it should be. Blood
> > pressure is dynamic and fluctuates throughout the
> day
> > so one blood pressure reading in not that
> accurate.
> > You need serial blood pressure readings and can do
> > this by buying an inexpensive blood pressure
> monitor
> > at any drug store and taking several readings
> > throughout the day and on several days. You also
> need
> > to take stock of things that can cause blood
> pressure
> > elevation, ie. stress, salt intake, obesity,
> > inactivity, cold medications (decongestants) etc.
> Not
> > only would this be important for the FAA medical,
> it
> > could help prevent a heart attack or stroke which
> > certainly would knock you out of your medical.
> Hope
> > this helps.
> >
> > Doc (H) Do Not Archive
> >
> > --- Nick Harris <nharris25@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey guys,
> > > I had my blood pressure checked today and it was
> > > 130/86. Will this mess up my medical. My
> medical
> > > is not current right now, but was about to get
> it
> > > done.
> > > Nick Harris
> > > nharris25@yahoo.com
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Sterling, asprin acutally dosen't "thin" the blood.
Rather it causes the blood platelets (which aide in
clotting) to be less "stickey" therefore decreasing
the risk of a clot forming within an arery. I know
nothing about Ginko and Flaxseed and the effects, if
any, on the blood. Blood pressure is a function of
cardiac output and arterial resistence. Increasing
one or both will cause the blood pressure to increase.
Some drugs, caffiene being only one of many, acts on
smooth muscle (which lines the walls of the arteries)
and causes them to contract therefore decreasing the
lumen (inside diameter of the vessel) which increases
vascular resistence and therefore increasing blood
pressure. This response to certain chemicals is
important for normal body function, but can become
abnormal under certain conditons. A too high blood
pressure can cause a tear in a fatty deposit that
often lines artery walls which will allow a blood clot
to form sometimes blocking blood flow through that
particular artery. This is a common cause of heart
attacks and strokes. This is probably more than
anyone wants to know, but understanding might help in
prevention of a problem.
Doc (H) Do Not Archive
--- Sterling <sterling@pgrb.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sterling"
> <sterling@pgrb.com>
>
> Doc:
>
> Is it true that by taking Asprin, Ginko and Flaxseed
> effectively act as
> blood thinners and can reduce blood pressure levels?
>
> I had my last cup of coffee this morning for the
> remainder of December as I
> look forward to my 3rd class prior to Christmas.
>
> Sterling
>
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> protection around
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Click on
> about
> provided
> www.buildersbooks.com,
> Admin.
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard L. Dery" <dickdery@teleport.com>
Nick Harris wrote:
> Hey guys, I had my blood pressure checked today and it was 130/86.
> Will this mess up my medical. My medical is not current right now,
> but was about to get it done. Nick Harris nharris25@yahoo.com
Other people in this forum have made suggestions about how to reduce
your blood pressure. Here's one more (if you're still concerned):
When you go for your physical, ask the AME about using suitable blood
pressure medication. You'll have to jump through a few hoops (paperwork,
time, and money), but it's possible to use medication and get a second
or third class medical.
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Subject: | approved medications |
a8c0@Nick>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
There is no official FAA approved list....but here is a good place to
start......
http://www.leftseat.com/medications.htm
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a8c0@Nick>
Pilots with a diagnosis of hypertension or those on medication to control
blood pressure must provide a detailed cardiovascular evaluation for FAA
consideration. While aviation medical examiners may defer lower values, the
FAA disqualifies pilots with a systolic (higher number) blood pressure at
or above 155 or a diastolic (lower number) pressure at or above 95.
Blood PressureOptimalNormalHigh NormalHypertensionFAA Limit
Systolic (top #)<120<130130-139140 or higher155 or higher
Diastolic< 80< 8585-9090 or higher95 or higher
If your blood pressure is elevated, speak with your physician about how to
reduce your blood pressure. It may be possible to reduce your blood
pressure by limiting the sodium (salt) in your diet, losing weight if
overweight, taking medication, limiting your alcohol intake and/or
increasing your physical activity.
Although reducing your blood pressure by lifestyle modification is
preferred, it may be best to utilize medication initially to reduce the
risk for arterial damage and stroke. Eventually exercise and diet may
permit you to discontinue the medication.
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Instead of using my vice or a big hammer to bend 090 or 060 metal straps
around tubing (like for the wing strut end fittings and certain cub type
landing gear tubing end fittings) I was thinking that having a press of some
sort would make things easier. Grizzly has 1,2 and 3 ton arbor presses for a
reasonable price. Does anyone have any opinions on using one of these
things?
Thanks
--
Rick Holland
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
Trying to second guess how an AME will react to any variance from FAA
"norm", is a problem. I had posted the problems with Medical earlier.
Couple days ago I got an official letter from the Anchorage FAA med office
quoting my letter and data set sent to them in June. Thats right they
responded to my letter of June in Nov. They want now 6 months of back
records on blood thinner affect, a letter from my heart doc that states my
Atril Fib meds are working and lastly another Holter Monitor test (about
$700 a pop). Sooooooo considering the fact the Piete would be marginally
acceptable with a Sport Pilot Lic, I'd go that route unless you need to fly
other things non- Litesport and/or you have to fly IFR etc.
Gordon Bowen
Homer AK
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From: Richard L. Dery dickdery@teleport.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Medical
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard L. Dery"
<dickdery@teleport.com>
Nick Harris wrote:
> Hey guys, I had my blood pressure checked today and it was 130/86.
> Will this mess up my medical. My medical is not current right now,
> but was about to get it done. Nick Harris nharris25@yahoo.com
Other people in this forum have made suggestions about how to reduce
your blood pressure. Here's one more (if you're still concerned):
When you go for your physical, ask the AME about using suitable blood
pressure medication. You'll have to jump through a few hoops (paperwork,
time, and money), but it's possible to use medication and get a second
or third class medical.
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I've tried using arbor presses for bending metal and I was not happy.
3 tons just isn't enough for a lot of bends.
My preference is a 20 ton hydraulic press.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Arbor press
Instead of using my vice or a big hammer to bend 090 or 060 metal straps around
tubing (like for the wing strut end fittings and certain cub type landing gear
tubing end fittings) I was thinking that having a press of some sort would
make things easier. Grizzly has 1,2 and 3 ton arbor presses for a reasonable
price. Does anyone have any opinions on using one of these things?
Thanks
--
Rick Holland
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