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1. 04:53 AM - Re: Fw: (Phillips, Jack)
2. 07:36 AM - Re: Fw: (Rick Holland)
3. 08:00 AM - Re: Fw: (Barry Davis)
4. 08:13 AM - Re: Fw: (Phillips, Jack)
5. 08:36 AM - Re: Fw: (Barry Davis)
6. 11:17 AM - Thanks for your help. (Robison)
7. 11:20 AM - Lumber Dimensions ()
8. 11:52 AM - Re: Lumber Dimensions (Phillips, Jack)
9. 12:12 PM - Re: Lumber Dimensions (DJ Vegh)
10. 03:35 PM - Re: Lumber Dimensions (Glenn Thomas)
11. 03:56 PM - Re: blood pressure medication (Glenn Thomas)
12. 05:56 PM - Chuck Gantzer Flying Video (Robison)
13. 09:23 PM - Re: Chuck Gantzer Flying Video (Rcaprd@aol.com)
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Scott,
Where did you get that drawing for the wing fittings? Doesn't look like
the one that my Don Pietenpol plans show. Mine were just straight
straps with rounded ends, and yes, there are a total of 16 required
(four for each spar end). Half of the fittings will need to be
installed with spacers to offset them so the spars can line up - I added
extra plywood doublers under my centersection fittings.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
"Icarus Plummet"
----- Original Message -----
From: Robison <mailto:robison@mchsi.com>
!! > Please including the following information with each
submission:
1) Please post to the Pietenpol list
2) Scott Robison
3) robison@mchsi.com
4) Help-Confusion on wing spar fittings.
5) Hello everyone. I'm new to the list and new to airplane building and
I need some direction. How many wing spar fittings do I need? The
plans say 4 each with and without tabs for front and rear spar. Does
this mean that there are 16 required? I'm confused. I've attached a
copy of the plans for these fittings.
6-x) Description of photo: Plans for wing spar fittings.
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You are using the Grega GN-1 plans. You need 8 total. One on each side of the center
section spar ( front & rear) and on each end for a tolal of 8. (two spars)
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Robison
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:21 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw:
----- Original Message -----
From: Robison
To: Scott L Robison
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:50 AM
!! > Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Please post to the Pietenpol list
2) Scott Robison
3) robison@mchsi.com
4) Help-Confusion on wing spar fittings.
5) Hello everyone. I'm new to the list and new to airplane building and I need
some direction. How many wing spar fittings do I need? The plans say 4 each
with and without tabs for front and rear spar. Does this mean that there are
16 required? I'm confused. I've attached a copy of the plans for these fittings.
6-x) Description of photo: Plans for wing spar fittings.
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No, but they fly as well or better. The first "Piet" I flew back in
1976 was a GN-1 and it was a very nice flying airplane. At that time I
didn't know the difference between the GN-1 and the Air Camper and that
plane was a big influence in my decision to build a Pietenpol. Only
years after I had started building my Pietenpol did I realize that the
plane I flew back then was a Grega.
I've been hanging around on the RV-10 list lately since I'm considering
building one of those next year. Man, what a bunch of whiners! Makes
me really appreciate the difference between plans-builders and
kit-builders. Whether you are building a Grega or a Pietenpol, you are
still doing something that fewer and fewer people these days seem to be
able (or willing) to do.
Keep makin' sawdust!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw:
Those are GN-1 fittings. As a Piet snob would say "not a 'real' Piet".
On 12/13/05, Phillips, Jack < Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com
<mailto:Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> > wrote:
Scott,
Where did you get that drawing for the wing fittings? Doesn't look like
the one that my Don Pietenpol plans show. Mine were just straight
straps with rounded ends, and yes, there are a total of 16 required
(four for each spar end). Half of the fittings will need to be
installed with spacers to offset them so the spars can line up - I added
extra plywood doublers under my centersection fittings.
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My earlier reply was for the center section fittings only, double that for the
wings and center section.
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Robison
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:21 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw:
----- Original Message -----
From: Robison
To: Scott L Robison
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:50 AM
!! > Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Please post to the Pietenpol list
2) Scott Robison
3) robison@mchsi.com
4) Help-Confusion on wing spar fittings.
5) Hello everyone. I'm new to the list and new to airplane building and I need
some direction. How many wing spar fittings do I need? The plans say 4 each
with and without tabs for front and rear spar. Does this mean that there are
16 required? I'm confused. I've attached a copy of the plans for these fittings.
6-x) Description of photo: Plans for wing spar fittings.
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Subject: | Thanks for your help. |
Jack and Berry,
Thanks for your help. My questions were answered.
Scott
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Subject: | Lumber Dimensions |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <glennthomas@charter.net>
Pardon my lack of experience. I'm about to order the 1/4" x 1/2" capstrip to start
my winter goal of completing the wing ribs and this will be the first stage
of my construction. I was just wondering if the sizes listed by Aircraft Spruce
and other online sources of Sitka spruce are the exact sizes you get or
do you order larger dimensioned wood and plane it to the exact size you need.
(..for example a Home Depot 2x4 is really 1.5 x 3.5)
Can you tell I'm a newbie?
Thanks,
Glenn
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Subject: | Lumber Dimensions |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
AS&S and Wicks are very good about cutting the material to the exact
dimensions specified. At the price of Sitka Spruce you don't want to
order any more than you actually need.
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
glennthomas@charter.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lumber Dimensions
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <glennthomas@charter.net>
Pardon my lack of experience. I'm about to order the 1/4" x 1/2"
capstrip to start my winter goal of completing the wing ribs and this
will be the first stage of my construction. I was just wondering if the
sizes listed by Aircraft Spruce and other online sources of Sitka spruce
are the exact sizes you get or do you order larger dimensioned wood and
plane it to the exact size you need. (..for example a Home Depot 2x4 is
really 1.5 x 3.5)
Can you tell I'm a newbie?
Thanks,
Glenn
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Subject: | Re: Lumber Dimensions |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
the sizes are exact.
DJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <glennthomas@charter.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lumber Dimensions
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <glennthomas@charter.net>
>
> Pardon my lack of experience. I'm about to order the 1/4" x 1/2" capstrip
to start my winter goal of completing the wing ribs and this will be the
first stage of my construction. I was just wondering if the sizes listed by
Aircraft Spruce and other online sources of Sitka spruce are the exact sizes
you get or do you order larger dimensioned wood and plane it to the exact
size you need. (..for example a Home Depot 2x4 is really 1.5 x 3.5)
>
> Can you tell I'm a newbie?
>
> Thanks,
> Glenn
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Lumber Dimensions |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@charter.net>
Thanks Jack and DJ,
Hopefully once I get the first piece built I'll develop a "sense"
for the rest of the project. One of the people on the list, Lou Wither, who
lives only an hour away from me, has offered his help as well as the use of
his rib jigs. Again, this list and the support and ideas it provides is
more valuable than I can put to words. I can't believe I'm finally doing
something I've been waiting to do for over 20 years!
Thanks!
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lumber Dimensions
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
>
> the sizes are exact.
>
> DJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <glennthomas@charter.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:41 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lumber Dimensions
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <glennthomas@charter.net>
> >
> > Pardon my lack of experience. I'm about to order the 1/4" x 1/2"
capstrip
> to start my winter goal of completing the wing ribs and this will be the
> first stage of my construction. I was just wondering if the sizes listed
by
> Aircraft Spruce and other online sources of Sitka spruce are the exact
sizes
> you get or do you order larger dimensioned wood and plane it to the exact
> size you need. (..for example a Home Depot 2x4 is really 1.5 x 3.5)
> >
> > Can you tell I'm a newbie?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Glenn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: | Re: blood pressure medication |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@charter.net>
I don't know if this recommendation is for everyone but... I run 7 miles
about 3 or 4 times a week, I'm 42, 5' 10" and weigh about 200 lbs. (Not
exactly skinny). I don't go crazy dieting but do make sure I work out
fairly regularly. Before my last routine physical I feared that my
cholesterol and BP would be on the rise due to the gain in weight (from my
old weight of 160 about 15 years ago). At the physical when the doc saw my
BP was lower than average and my cholesterol was around 180 he asked if I
did a lot of exercise. I said I ran between 21 and 30 miles a week and he
said that explained the lower than normal BP. For me and my current
condition the amount of running I do is about all I can fit into my schedule
but apparently it is having a positive impact on my health. I might
recommend, if you're in fair shape, that you start running (maybe not 7
miles since I've been a runner since high school) and ramp up to where it
brings your blood pressure down. From my experience runners have a lower
than average blood pressure and it helps with cholesterol too. If you have
a physical coming up, start now and do a little as often as possible, so
that by the physical you'll be in good shape. If you have knee problems
swimmers have told me that swimming has similar benefits, but I hate lap
swimming.
I hope that didn't sound like a health commercial, but getting to the point
where you can run 7 or so miles every weekend morning and once during the
week isn't as hard as it sounds and that might be all it takes. Check the
idea out with your doc and see what he says.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harvey Rule" <harvey.rule@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: blood pressure medication
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Harvey Rule
<harvey.rule@sympatico.ca>
>
> Just the problems you have been experiencing with these people is enough
> to make anybodies blood pressure go up!
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
> > <taildrags@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Sheesh- I had no idea there was so much involved in this blood
> > pressure thing. In between medicals, my blood pressure was creeping
> > up into the border-hypertensive region so my personal physician put me
> > on the minimal dosage of Altace to control it. At my next medical, I
> > reported the new medication as well as the doctor visit, my AME
> > requested copies of my personal doc's file on me including my personal
> > log of weekly BP readings over several months (we have a clinic at
> > work so I could easily check and track it), he submitted it with my
> > 3rd class stuff to Okie City, and that was that. Third class issued,
> > no questions, over a year ago.
> >
> > This is the 21st century. We put men on the moon, GPS navigation in
> > everybody's pocket, and can fit a bunch of megabytes of data on a
> > thing the size of an old gum eraser. Blood pressure medication is not
> > experimental, nor is it (dare I say it?) rocket science. Old grandma
> > FAA Aeromedical needs to take some Geritol and get with the program,
> > especially with hundreds of thousands of baby boomers starting through
> > the system with plenty of disposable income and a hankering to fly.
> >
> > Oscar Zuniga
> > San Antonio, TX
> > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: | Chuck Gantzer Flying Video |
Chuck,
Got your video today. Great job. I can't wait to get mine finished. You also
have a building video correct? I like to order that one too.
Thanks,
Scott Robison
robison@mchsi.com
Pietenpol builders list
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Subject: | Re: Chuck Gantzer Flying Video |
In a message dated 12/13/2005 8:58:41 PM Central Standard Time,
robison@mchsi.com writes:
Chuck,
Got your video today. Great job. I can't wait to get mine finished. You
also have a building video correct? I like to order that one too.
Thanks,
Scott Robison
robison@mchsi.com
Pietenpol builders list
Scott,
I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I've been working on the building video
almost every day...it just takes SO much time to edit a video the way I want it
to
come out. I'll let the list know when it is finished. Meanwhile, I have a
lot of the DVD video 'Flying NX770CG' packed and ready to go.
Chuck Gantzer
NX770CG
Pietenpols Forever !!
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