Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Fri 12/23/05


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 04:59 AM - Re: lift strut fittings ()
     2. 07:33 AM - Re: Earl Myers Drawings (Hans Vander Voort)
     3. 11:07 AM - Re: Earl Myers Drawings (Kirk Huizenga)
     4. 11:51 AM - Re: Earl Myers Drawings (Hans Vander Voort)
     5. 12:26 PM - Re: Earl Myers Drawings (Kirk Huizenga)
     6. 01:48 PM - Re: Earl Myers Drawings (Barry Davis)
     7. 06:12 PM - Re: Earl Myers Drawings (HVandervoo@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:59:51 AM PST US
    From: <gcardinal@mn.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: lift strut fittings
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <gcardinal@mn.rr.com> The problem with the original fitting orientation is that it loads the flat strap material in a bending moment instead of tension. Flat strap likes tension best. Greg Cardinal Minneapolis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: lift strut fittings > The revised "flying strut fitting" is > clearly longer than the originals and the > angled cut clearly indicates that it > installs at more of an angle from the > vertical than the original, supposedly to > align with the axis of the lift strut. I > have not drawn up the original nor the > revised brackets in AutoCAD to see if this > is the case, but I'll bet that it is. > > My conclusion is the same, though... either > bracket will work just fine for your lift > struts, and that has been proven by > thousands of flight hours with no problems > that I am aware of. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > Forum - > Subscriptions page, > Browse, Chat, FAQ, > Site - > Dralle, List Admin. > > >


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    Time: 07:33:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Earl Myers Drawings
    From: Hans Vander Voort <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
    27, 2005) at 12/23/2005 04:33:14 PM --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Hans Vander Voort <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com> Kirk, I never used or heard of Earl Myers drawings but I used the following: Piano hinge MS20257P5: ASS p/n 03-00051-6 2 Two lug anchor nuts AN 366F-1032A in the wing 24 Two lug anchor nuts MK1000-03 in the aileron 24 And plain machine screws AN526-1032-R18 48 Machine screw and anchor nut about every 6 " without interfering with ribs. The machine screws are not countersunk but are offset against each other so the heads do hit. When flying I observed the aileron, a 1/2" deflection (trailing edge) is enough to start a gentle roll in to the turn. I am sure during landing it deflects more (lower speed) but it does not take a whole lot. Anyway the control stick hits it's limits (torque tube control arm hitting the floor board) before the aileron. Hans van der Voort


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    Time: 11:07:41 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Huizenga" <Kirk.Huizenga@moundsviewschools.org>
    Subject: Re: Earl Myers Drawings
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kirk Huizenga" <Kirk.Huizenga@moundsviewschools.org> Hans, Why did you use two different types of anchor nuts? Kirk >>> hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com 12/23/05 9:33 AM >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Hans Vander Voort <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com> Kirk, I never used or heard of Earl Myers drawings but I used the following: Piano hinge MS20257P5: ASS p/n 03-00051-6 2 Two lug anchor nuts AN 366F-1032A in the wing 24 Two lug anchor nuts MK1000-03 in the aileron 24 And plain machine screws AN526-1032-R18 48 Machine screw and anchor nut about every 6 " without interfering with ribs. The machine screws are not countersunk but are offset against each other so the heads do hit. When flying I observed the aileron, a 1/2" deflection (trailing edge) is enough to start a gentle roll in to the turn. I am sure during landing it deflects more (lower speed) but it does not take a whole lot. Anyway the control stick hits it's limits (torque tube control arm hitting the floor board) before the aileron. Hans van der Voort


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    Time: 11:51:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Earl Myers Drawings
    From: Hans Vander Voort <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
    27, 2005) at 12/23/2005 08:51:24 PM Kirk I started of with using the nylock type (AN 366F-1032A) only. But these are to big on the aileron side, they would show through the fabric, same goes for machine screw length. This happens because the Aileron nuts are mounted on an angle, 30 degrees or so. You can of course mount them lower but that is also away from the hinge point and makes the setup weaker. If the explanation is not entirely clear maybe this drawing explains better. (See attached file: Visio-Drawing1.pdf) Best regards Hans van der Voort


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    Time: 12:26:17 PM PST US
    From: "Kirk Huizenga" <Kirk.Huizenga@moundsviewschools.org>
    Subject: Re: Earl Myers Drawings
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kirk Huizenga" <Kirk.Huizenga@moundsviewschools.org> That makes sense - thanks Hans do not archive


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    Time: 01:48:19 PM PST US
    From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Earl Myers Drawings
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com> Hans What program did you draw this picture in? It says Visio-Drawing1. It looks good and easy. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Vander Voort" <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Earl Myers Drawings > Kirk > > I started of with using the nylock type (AN 366F-1032A) only. > > But these are to big on the aileron side, they would show through the > fabric, same goes for machine screw length. > This happens because the Aileron nuts are mounted on an angle, 30 degrees > or so. > You can of course mount them lower but that is also away from the hinge > point and makes the setup weaker. > > If the explanation is not entirely clear maybe this drawing explains > better. > > (See attached file: Visio-Drawing1.pdf) > > Best regards > > Hans van der Voort


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    Time: 06:12:52 PM PST US
    From: HVandervoo@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Earl Myers Drawings
    Barry, I have a old version of VISIO 2000 I believe its now part of Microsoft Hans




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