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1. 06:19 AM - Chuck Gantzer new video comments (Michael D Cuy)
2. 06:24 AM - Re: wire wheels on ebay (Michael D Cuy)
3. 06:39 AM - A65 oil sump (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 06:40 AM - Re: Chuck Gantzer new video comments (Jack T. Textor)
5. 06:54 AM - tail surfaces (Dan Loegering)
6. 06:55 AM - hinge dept (Jack T. Textor)
7. 06:59 AM - Re: wire wheels on ebay (Jim Markle)
8. 07:23 AM - Re: Chuck Gantzer new video comments (tmbrant1@netzero.com)
9. 07:44 AM - Re: Chuck Gantzer new video comments (Jack T. Textor)
10. 09:46 AM - Chuck Gantzer new video comments (Oscar Zuniga)
11. 11:04 AM - Re: wire wheels on ebay now (Egan, John)
12. 11:34 AM - General Smoke Gantzer (Michael D Cuy)
13. 11:52 AM - ATC controllers and Pietenpols (Michael D Cuy)
14. 11:53 AM - Re: wire wheels on ebay (walt evans)
15. 11:56 AM - PS-- good luck to Oscar (Michael D Cuy)
16. 01:30 PM - straight vs. spoked (Michael D Cuy)
17. 02:29 PM - Re: Chuck's Video (Barry Davis)
18. 04:37 PM - Wow. Chuck's DVD, Or -- Chuck-A-Check (Sterling)
19. 05:28 PM - C75 timing marks (Jeff Boatright)
20. 05:29 PM - Re: Chuck's Video (Cinda Gadd)
21. 05:36 PM - Re: Wow. Chuck's DVD (Dick)
22. 06:12 PM - Re: Chuck's Video (dmott9@aol.com)
23. 06:24 PM - Builders manual (Michael Turrell)
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| Subject: | Chuck Gantzer new video comments |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Chuck--- nice job on your new release of your flying your Pietenpol
video. I like the menu you provide to pick
from flying, river run, tp drop, spot landings and such. The video of you
visiting your family in West Virginia is very
good. Your son did an excellent job of taking video on his 1st airplane
ride ever. Open cockpit no less.
Nice to view some Pietenpol flying scenes during some fairly lousy weather
days here in Ohio !
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: wire wheels on ebay |
0@popserve.grc.nasa.gov>
>Just be aware, that you can't use these wheels where brakes are used.
>walt evans
>NX140DL
Walt-- I re-looked at this auction and you're right on. There is not
enough room
on the hub sides to do much with any attach points or welding of a
drum/disc assy.
Good eye.
Mike C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Anybody have a 4-qt. oil sump for an A65 that they want to sell? I'm in the
market. There is one on eBay at the moment and I may bid on that one if I
can't find another. The gentleman raised the starting bid on this one from
$99 to $149 since yesterday, but he's had no bids on it yet.
Thanks!
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Chuck Gantzer new video comments |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
I too thought it was fantastic. Your narration was great!
Jack Textor
Des Moines
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dan Loegering" <danl@odayequipment.com>
Happy Holidays to all!
A quick question for all of you - since recent discussion has listed many changes
that people would make, I am wondering if there are any changes to the tail
surfaces that anyone would recommend?
I am planning on the long fuse version with a C-65. I have read that with the
longer nose area to compensate for the lighter engine, the plane can exhibit "odd"
handling on crosswinds or in a slip. My thought was to add two inches to
the top of the rudder, and leave the elevator surfaces per plans. this would
provide about 40 sq. inches of additional vertical surface area in the tail with
a minimal increase in weight.
I'm looking for your thoughts and ideas - getting ready to order up the wood for
the tail feathers - all ribs complete for my bird and the jigs are being used
for a second set now. I need to finish the jigs for the tail and hopefully
have my surfaces complete before Ken is done with his ribs. Then the jigs go
to a third individual to begin construction.
Thanks for your thoughts!
Dan Loegering
Fargo, ND
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Happy New Year all! Getting ready to route the slots for my elevator
and rudder hinges. I'm using Vi Kaplers hinges. Should the dept be cut
so the top of the hinge flange sets flush with the leading edge of the
elevator?
Thanks!
Jack
Des Moines
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| Subject: | Re: wire wheels on ebay |
Ant the spokes are straight.
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael D Cuy
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wire wheels on ebay
Just be aware, that you can't use these wheels where brakes are used.
walt evans
NX140DL
Walt-- I re-looked at this auction and you're right on. There is not enough
room
on the hub sides to do much with any attach points or welding of a drum/disc
assy.
Good eye.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Chuck Gantzer new video comments |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.com" <tmbrant1@netzero.net>
I especially liked the part which said "I find it difficult to fly without smoke"
- was laughing out loud.
Tom B.
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| Subject: | Chuck Gantzer new video comments |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
My favorite...the only time you have to much gas is, if you are on fire!
Jack Textor
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| Subject: | Chuck Gantzer new video comments |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Yeah, Chuck has the down-home, folksy kind of voice that makes you feel
right at home. His little commentary in the video will make you wish he
were an instructor for ATC controllers (except he'd never make it in busy
airspace... talks too slow).
They should also use his voice for when they contact you on the radio to
tell you that you just breached some secure airspace. Let's say you sorta
missed Sterling's "Knot 2 Shabby" grass strip by a few miles and found
yourself over Crawford when the president is there. Ol' Chuck's voice in
the headphones: "Experimental four-one charlie charlie, sure must be a
pretty Pietenpol you're flying, but I've got you at about 700 feet above the
First Lady's fresh apple pie cooling out on the windowsill. Do you think
you could show her the underside of your airplane as you make an easy 180
degree left turn and head away from there? And give 'er some smoke as you
pull that 180!"
Beats the heck out of, "experimental aircraft, make an immediate one-eighty.
You are in restricted airspace. Please acknowledge."
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | wire wheels on ebay now |
Regarding the use of Airdrome Aeroplane wheels on our Piets, I have this
information from Robert at A.A. if I'm getting it all correct (that was
my disclaimer).
He typically makes his wheels using a hub width of 7" from flange to
=66lange, and a 3" spoke circle. He has the capability to weld a 6"
=66lange width hub. He uses a 1-1/2" i.d hub, and when he uses a bronze
bushing instead of bearings, he requires a 1-1/4" o.d. axle. For the
straight tube axle, he sleeves the axle with another 18" long tube on
each end.
Because I already have my rims and spokes, the geometry may require me
only to use a 6" wide hub with my 8-1/2" spokes which I have mocked up,
therefore, I'm inquiring on the weldment which I am sure he can do a
better job of than myself judging from his photos and experience. I
explained this web site to him so he now knows why he's getting the
calls and e-mails from us.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
HVandervoo@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:55 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wire wheels on ebay now
=09
=09
=09
Mike,
Wire wheels can also be had from Airdrome Aeroplanes in Holden
Missouri:
http://www.airdromeaeroplanes.com/Default.asp=3Fpage76
Don't know if any of you guys tried these=3F
To the whole list; the very best wishes for the new year and
many happy landings!
Hans
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| Subject: | General Smoke Gantzer |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Tom-- that quote had me laughing out loud as well. And you know I don't
personally smoke
but I know how difficult it is to quit when I'm flying my Piet. I have
withdrawl symptoms when
my smoke oil container gets empty !
Mike C.
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PS--- good luck
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| Subject: | ATC controllers and Pietenpols |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Heck Oscar, I must drive the controllers nuts at Cleveland Hopkins Airport
out of 4G8 where I fly because
the TCA (okay....Class frigging B Airspace) is at 1900' and I fly about
1500' msl and I can almost see
runways 24L and R numbers when I'm over my airport doing 35 mph circling
watching a pretty sunset.
They must think I'm a helicopter.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: wire wheels on ebay |
0@popserve.grc.nasa.gov>
<5.1.1.5.2.20051228092308.02652208@popserve.grc.nasa.gov>
Mike,
Nah, the sight isn't that good cause I didn't even see that. :
) Was referring to the spokes were not crossed, but straight. So they wouldn't
have any braking/rotating strength.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael D Cuy
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wire wheels on ebay
Just be aware, that you can't use these wheels where brakes are used.
walt evans
NX140DL
Walt-- I re-looked at this auction and you're right on. There is not enough
room
on the hub sides to do much with any attach points or welding of a drum/disc
assy.
Good eye.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | PS-- good luck to Oscar |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Oscar-- that one e-mail I meant to finish should have said good luck on
finding a decent 65 horse oil sump
at a decent price.
They are somewhat pricey and hard to come by in decent shape. (lots are
wiped out in nose-overs with the carbs and air boxes)
I scoured google.com a while ago and saw some chatter about them on the
t-craft e-mail group. Might wanna check with those
guys or e-mail Forrest Barber....the t-craft guru here in Ohio who has a
t-craft web site.
Tell him you know me and he'll say "whooe ?" :)))
Mike C.
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| Subject: | straight vs. spoked |
0@popserve.grc.nasa.gov><5.1.1.5.2.20051228092308.02652208@popserve.grc.na
s a.gov>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Walt-- isn't that funny....you and Jim Markle saw the WOODS in those wire
wheel photos while I was looking at the tree branches.
Wild. Must be the quaaludes I've been taking:))
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Chuck's Video |
Skip
Hey, you're killing me!! WHAT ADDRESS?
Barry
and Merry Christmas from the Big Piet Builders
----- Original Message -----
From: Cinda Gadd
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Chuck's Video
Barry,
I sent $20.00 to this address just today, kind of a late Christmas present to
myself.
Happy New Year to you, Mike, the rest of the big Piet builders, and the whole
list.
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Davis
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: 12/27/2005 11:26:39 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Chuck's Video
Chuck
Could you post again how to get the video. I somehow missed it.
Barry
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| Subject: | Wow. Chuck's DVD, Or -- Chuck-A-Check |
My copy of Chuck's DVD arrived in the mail a while back and I've had too many irons
in the fire (not to mention fires all around me here in Texas) to look at
Chuck's DVD until this afternoon. I can attest that it was more meaningful to
me to watch this DVD than the $35.90 I invested in the One Right Six DVD, still
for sale by the way.
I've spent more than 30 years in television, working all over the US and Europe
& Africa, but I've never seen such a great non-professional video as this. Chuck
did an outstanding job! And for anybody who hasn't purchased one of Chuck's
DVD's, get off your bohunkas and send Chuck a Check. His DVD will inspire even
the most uninspired procastinator. In fact, this weekend I'm getting my bohunkas
back to the hanger to work on my project.
www.sterlingbrooks.tv
Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch
NOTAMS, Fresh Cowchips on Runway. Land at your own risk. BYOS
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| Subject: | C75 timing marks |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
We're installing a zero-time, freshly rebuilt C75 on our Piet. It has
a tapered shaft. I am concerned that when the #1 cylinder is TDC, the
timing marks end up on the bottom of the prop hub. Recall that the
hub is keyed to the crank on these engines, so it fits in one
position only. I wonder if somebody installed the cam out of sync.
Is this correct or is there a problem with the assembly of the engine?
Thanks for any advice,
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Chuck's Video |
Barry,
Sorry man, see if I can get it to work this time.
Skip
Chuck Gantzer
626 Pattie St
Witchita, KS. 67211-2536
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| Subject: | Wow. Chuck's DVD |
Sterling and other viewers - I second your praise of Chuck's DVD. Super
flight footage and he does have a way with words! Looking forward to
the building DVD. Dick
I've spent more than 30 years in television, working all over the US and
Europe & Africa, but I've never seen such a great non-professional video
as this. Chuck did an outstanding job! And for anybody who hasn't
purchased one of Chuck's DVD's, get off your bohunkas and send Chuck a
Check. His DVD will inspire even the most uninspired procastinator. In
fact, this weekend I'm getting my bohunkas back to the hanger to work on
my project.
www.sterlingbrooks.tv
Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch
NOTAMS, Fresh Cowchips on Runway. Land at your own risk. BYOS
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| Subject: | Re: Chuck's Video |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dmott9@aol.com
Chuck, are you setup to take PayPal ?
If not, I'll get a check in the mail.
Dennis Mott
131 Richmond
Gate City, VA 24251
-----Original Message-----
From: Cinda Gadd <csfog@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chuck's Video
Barry,
Sorry man, see if I can get it to work this time.
Skip
Chuck Gantzer
626 Pattie St
Witchita, KS. 67211-2536
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Am about to order my plans,and am wondering if the builder manual is a necessary
buy.I have the 1932 Flying an glider Manual.I plan on building the long version
and using a 65 Cont.powerplant ,with a one piece wing.Steel tube fuselage
is also a possibility.I'm retired and a fixed income is a fixed income so if it
is not needed, I'd like to know.After viewing Chucks video I had to get started.Thanks
for any input.Mike
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