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1. 04:41 AM - Re: Builders manual (Michael D Cuy)
2. 04:42 AM - Re: Builders manual (Michael D Cuy)
3. 07:23 AM - Re: Re: Builders manual ()
4. 08:44 AM - A65 oil sump/good luck (Oscar Zuniga)
5. 03:20 PM - Re: A Pietenpol for Christmas (Harvey Rule)
6. 06:29 PM - Re: A Pietenpol for Christmas (JR)
7. 06:37 PM - C75 question (Oscar Zuniga)
8. 08:05 PM - Re: wire wheels on ebay nowwire wheels on ebay now (Tom Stinemetze)
9. 08:18 PM - Re: C75 question (Jeff Boatright)
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Subject: | Re: Builders manual |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Mike-- I ordered the building manual but as I recall it is mostly about
converting the Model A engine for aircraft
use. Others who have it more fresh in their minds may recall more of what
is in there. The manual "manual" is not
a manual at all actually. It is merely about 25 pages of Bernards thoughts
strung together in a binder type format.
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: Builders manual |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Mike--Here is what is in the builders manual as per the Pietenpol family
web site
found under the Pietenpol Family Web
Site: http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp/
Original Air Camper & Sky Scout Builders Manual
Original Builders manual that contains the text written by Mr. Pietenpol
for the
Flying & Glider Manual and Popular Aviation magazines of the 1930's. This is
the information pertinent to building the Air Camper and the Sky Scout in the
1930's. Also included is history about the planes that Mr. Pietenpol built and
construction notes to assist the first time builder to better understand
why it's
built as it is. A good head start! Bernard wrote much of this manual
himself and
documents the how to's!
Chapter I The Amateur Airplane Builder
Chapter II Modern Mechanics and Inventions
Ford A Powered 2-Seat Monoplane
Pietenpol Steel Tube Fuselage
Mounting the Motor on your Air Camper
The Pietenpol-Ford Motor Conversion
Chapter III Sky Scout
The Pietenpol Sky Scout
Tail Group and Fuselage Fittings
Chapter IV Converting Ford Model A Engines For Flight
Chapter V Itemized Parts List
Chapter VI Airplane Chronology
Chapter VII Converting the Corvair Engine For Flight
Chapter VIII Sixty-five Years Of Post Flight
Chapter IX Builders Notes
Chapter X Builders Questions
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Subject: | Re: Builders manual |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <glennthomas@charter.net>
Although it was an interesting source of insight on the how the plane came to be,
and I like it for it's nostalgic value, I didn't find it to be a meaningful
source of building instruction like you would think a "Builder's Manual" would
have, and it is somewhat disorganized. I think you could probably pass on it.
I got it more to immerse myself in this project and to have everything Bernie
made available at the time it was created. This list is a better building
reference than the manual.
That's my opinion,
Glenn
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> From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
> Date: 2005/12/29 Thu PM 12:40:16 GMT
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Builders manual
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> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
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> Mike-- I ordered the building manual but as I recall it is mostly about
> converting the Model A engine for aircraft
> use. Others who have it more fresh in their minds may recall more of what
> is in there. The manual "manual" is not
> a manual at all actually. It is merely about 25 pages of Bernards thoughts
> strung together in a binder type format.
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Subject: | A65 oil sump/good luck |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Mike wrote-
>good luck on finding a decent 65 horse oil sump at a decent price.
Define "decent". I found a guy with one on eBay. Started bids at $149 but
no bids so I'm working with him on a little better price on it.
And Mike Turrell <emtyit@3web.net> wrote-
>am wondering if the builder manual is a necessary buy
I would sure buy it. There are lots of useful bits of information in it.
Well worth the money, in my opinion.
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | Re: A Pietenpol for Christmas |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@sympatico.ca>
You don't get the silk scarf till you shoot down a triwing red coloured
plane.
> ssage posted by: JR <rocca@adelphia.net>
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> Hello group and hope your Holiday is going well,
> Been a lurker here for while,
> I am the new owner of NX899TC-I'll be picking her up this summer, its
> needs a little work but I'm sure I can get her looking just as good as
> before.
> I am mobilized now with the Army but still going to try to make it to
> Broadhead this year.
> I watched Mike C video and ordered Chucks video, reviewed the plans,
> hung out around both Sun-n-Fun and Oshkosh watching them build the
> Piet and got to know Ted B.while living down in Sunny Naples Florida.
> Prior owner Timothy Cunningham has been very helpful in replying to my
> emails and sending me photos of the plane. Looking foward to meeting
> you all.
> This will be my first plane with a Continental in it, a nice step up
> from my VW and Rotax powered experimentals, however I do have a clean
> Corvair Engine striped down sitting in the garage ; )
> I'd like to do some cross-country hops it it!
> Oh yeah almost forgot, I had to order a leather helmet and goggles to
> go with the Piet, However, I did show some restraint buy not
> purchasing the silk scarf !
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> Happy 2006
>
> Captain John Rocca
> US Army SC
> 412-445-5995
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> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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Subject: | Re: A Pietenpol for Christmas |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: JR <rocca@adelphia.net>
Harvey-
There is a great write up in Novembers Sport Aviation(EAA Magazine) on
"The Fokker Triplane" From what I read it's quite a handful to Takeoff,
Fly and Land. The write up made for some good fireplace reading.
JR
Harvey Rule wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Harvey Rule
> <harvey.rule@sympatico.ca>
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> You don't get the silk scarf till you shoot down a triwing red
> coloured plane.
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>> ssage posted by: JR <rocca@adelphia.net>
>>
>> Hello group and hope your Holiday is going well,
>> Been a lurker here for while,
>> I am the new owner of NX899TC-I'll be picking her up this summer,
>> its needs a little work but I'm sure I can get her looking just as
>> good as before.
>> I am mobilized now with the Army but still going to try to make it
>> to Broadhead this year.
>> I watched Mike C video and ordered Chucks video, reviewed the plans,
>> hung out around both Sun-n-Fun and Oshkosh watching them build the
>> Piet and got to know Ted B.while living down in Sunny Naples
>> Florida. Prior owner Timothy Cunningham has been very helpful in
>> replying to my emails and sending me photos of the plane. Looking
>> foward to meeting you all.
>> This will be my first plane with a Continental in it, a nice step up
>> from my VW and Rotax powered experimentals, however I do have a clean
>> Corvair Engine striped down sitting in the garage ; )
>> I'd like to do some cross-country hops it it!
>> Oh yeah almost forgot, I had to order a leather helmet and goggles to
>> go with the Piet, However, I did show some restraint buy not
>> purchasing the silk scarf !
>>
>> Happy 2006
>>
>> Captain John Rocca
>> US Army SC
>> 412-445-5995
>>
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>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Here's some info for Jeff, from an A&P friend of mine:
====================
On the small Continentals, TDC on #1 Cyl as marked on the prop flange is
aligned with the case parting line with the TDC mark in the down position on
the flange just as described in the question. It is installed correctly.
This is true for both taper shaft and flanged engines.
If you changed the cam 180 degrees, #1 Piston would still be at TDC in the
same position. If you find it easier to deal with the timing marks on the
top, either mark it 180 degrees out on the flange, or time to #2 cylinder.
FWIW, Continental did some strange markings that are counter-intuitive on
the cam gear too.
======================
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | Re: wire wheels on ebay nowwire wheels on ebay now |
Walt:
This is probably obvious to everyone else but why cant these wheels be
used with brakes?
Tom Stinemetze
____ | ____
\8/
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- Just be aware, that you can't use these wheels where brakes are used.
walt evans
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Subject: | Re: C75 question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
Oscar,
Thanks so much for the input. What a group this is!
Jeff
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
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>Here's some info for Jeff, from an A&P friend of mine:
>====================
>On the small Continentals, TDC on #1 Cyl as marked on the prop
>flange is aligned with the case parting line with the TDC mark in
>the down position on the flange just as described in the question.
>It is installed correctly. This is true for both taper shaft and
>flanged engines.
>
>If you changed the cam 180 degrees, #1 Piston would still be at TDC
>in the same position. If you find it easier to deal with the timing
>marks on the top, either mark it 180 degrees out on the flange, or
>time to #2 cylinder.
>
>FWIW, Continental did some strange markings that are
>counter-intuitive on the cam gear too.
>======================
>Oscar Zuniga
>San Antonio, TX
>mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
>website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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