---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/01/06: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:19 AM - Re: My Brother Needs an RV-4 Engine (Jack T. Textor) 2. 05:24 AM - RV-4 engine (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)) 3. 06:15 AM - Re: Chuck's Video (JR) 4. 07:52 AM - Re: RV-4 engine (Mark Blackwell) 5. 08:57 AM - Flying NX770CG video (Rcaprd@aol.com) 6. 10:36 AM - oil recommendation (Oscar Zuniga) 7. 12:41 PM - Re: Motorcycle wheels (Carl Vought) 8. 12:58 PM - Going to Broadhead... (Robison) 9. 01:01 PM - cold weather gear (walt evans) 10. 01:03 PM - Wheels and brakes...... (Kenneth M. Heide) 11. 01:14 PM - Re: Going to Broadhead... (Kenneth M. Heide) 12. 01:25 PM - Re: cold weather gear (Rcaprd@aol.com) 13. 01:39 PM - Re: cold weather gear (gbowen@ptialaska.net) 14. 03:02 PM - Re: cold weather gear (walt evans) 15. 03:07 PM - Re: Wheels and brakes...... (walt evans) 16. 03:07 PM - Re: oil recommendation (Jeff Boatright) 17. 03:29 PM - Smooth cycle tires; Was: Motorcycle wheels (Jeff Boatright) 18. 03:29 PM - Re: Going to Broadhead... (Jeff Boatright) 19. 05:21 PM - Re: Going to Broadhead... (Robison) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:43 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: My Brother Needs an RV-4 Engine From: "Jack T. Textor" Chris, I assume he is on the RV list, if not you might suggest it. I think Bill VonDane from the RV8 list had a 320 awhile ago. Jack Textor www.textors.com do not archive I was talking to my brother last night and he mentioned he was having trouble finding a reasonably priced low to mid time 0-320 or 0-360 for an RV-4 he is building. He has been watching Trade-A-Plane and E-Bay but no luck. I know it's a long shot but does anyone out there have one to sell or know of one for sale? He lives in Southern Corky country (that's south western Louisiana) if that helps. He's been working on this thing for 15 years, see even kits take a long time to build. I keep telling him he needs to get it done before it get crushed by his house, it's already been through two natural disasters (a large earthquake in S. California and recently a Hurricane). As most of us can relate to (or in my case hope to relate to) he's a bit excited to finally have the airframe mostly done and to be looking for an engine. If you know of an engine email me directly and I will forward off the info to him Thanks Chris Tracy Sacramento, Ca Do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:41 AM PST US ETAsAhRp+gpMvoCJ9S5xcSEPugbZPZ+ITgIUM/M6j4R0b7/xTRIXeFB/EngGLIg= From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Subject: Pietenpol-List: RV-4 engine --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Hind sight is always 20/20. Imagine how much money your brother would have saved had he bought his engine first-15 years ago. sorry I can't help you, but I was just thinking. Leon S. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:07 AM PST US From: "JR" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Chuck's Video Chuck- Did you receive my $20 for your video, yet? THXs John Rocca _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chuck's Video In a message dated 12/28/2005 8:13:34 PM Central Standard Time, dmott9@aol.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dmott9@aol.com Chuck, are you setup to take PayPal ? If not, I'll get a check in the mail. Dennis Mott 131 Richmond Gate City, VA 24251 Dennis, HAPPY NEW YEAR !!! I'll get a copy of 'Flying NX770CG' to the Post Office on Monday. I trust you to send me a check or money order for $20 to: Chuck Gantzer 626 Pattie Wichita, KS 67211 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:44 AM PST US From: "Mark Blackwell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: RV-4 engine --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mark Blackwell" Well Id be willing to guess that he would have likely bought two engines instead of one or at least paid for major repairs and an engine. An engine just sitting is likely the worst case situation. Internal corrision is a huge risk. That bargin engine that needs an overhaul after flying 100hours or so is suddenly no bargin. You would also have to factor in the lost income that the money spent on that engine could have earned in an investment over the 15 years of construction to be a totally fair cost comparison. With that in mind I would have also waited to buy the engine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leon Stefan" Subject: Pietenpol-List: RV-4 engine > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) > > Hind sight is always 20/20. Imagine how much money your brother would > have saved had he bought his engine first-15 years ago. sorry I can't > help you, but I was just thinking. Leon S. Do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:57:18 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying NX770CG video Group, I've been away for a while, and had a wonderful Christmas with family & friends. Now, I'm wading through all the built up e-mail. Sending out video's to John Rocca, Malcolm M., and some others. Wow !! It seems to me, from the responses, that y'all like the video !! That's a big relief to me, and makes the effort worthwhile. Thank you for the wonderful comments !! I'm back to work on the building video, but it won't be as 'flashy' or exciting as the Flying video. It will be about building the Airframe of the Pietenpol Aircamper (with a few short Flying clips thrown in here & there to keep things interesting). Chuck G. NX770CG ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:36:36 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: oil recommendation --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" Howdy, low 'n' slow fliers; It won't be much longer before I'll be needing to refill the oil sump on the A65 and I'm looking for recommendations on what to use here in South Texas. Forget snow, ice, low temperatures, and all that... we are hot & dusty most of the time. I'm open to suggestions as to what oil all y'all are flying in your small Continentals in these airplanes (Piets, Cubs, early Cessnas, T-Crafts, etc.) Thanks, and here's to a new and improved 2006! Oscar Zuniga ("El Taco Flaco") San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CorkyPiet.html ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:14 PM PST US From: "Carl Vought" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Motorcycle wheels Fred...Did you mean you've found a couple of smooth tires or a SOURCE of smooth tires? If so, I'd like to find out where I can get some.....Good luck with the wheels...Sounds most interesting...Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: TBYH@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Motorcycle wheels Speaking of wheels, I've purchased (on e-Bay) a pair of the solid disk cast aluminum wheels as used on Harley Davidson "Fat Boy" motorcycles. I like the 1920-ish airplane looks and I believe they are stronger than spoked wheels plus I won't have to worry about spoke maintenance, etc. They're a little heavy, which is okay on the front end of the plane, but I can lighten them a couple pounds by removing the sealed bearings and spacer inside the wheels. For just taxiing and landing and taking off, I don't think I need roller bearings -- just run the wheel on the tube axle and keep 'em greased. Also, the brake rotors will bolt right to the wheels -- just need to fabricate the caliper mount. I've also found some smooth tread tires to use, too. Anyway, this is my wheel "solution" at the moment. Of course the proof is in the pudding, so in a year or two when my ship flies, I'll report back. Happy New Year --and Happy Landings -- to all! Fred B. La Crosse, WI ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:36 PM PST US From: "Robison" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Going to Broadhead... Can anyone tell me if there is there a good reasonably priced hotel close to Broadhead for the annual Piet gathering and do I need to join Chapter 431? I plan on doing that anyway but, I didn't know if I have to be a member to get in. Thanks, Scott Robison Charleston, IL. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:17 PM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Pietenpol-List: cold weather gear Looking for advice on clothing for cold weather flying. I've tried a snow suit, but I feel like the Michelin Man. Anyone know of a supplier that has something that is thin and warm? Also gloves, and what on the head. Normally I fly with a kacki cloth helmet with a headset. Any and all inputs would be welcomed. The days here in Northern NJ are short and cold and damp, but I sure long to fly, even for a short time. I've flown during some cold days, but when I get back on the ground, I realize the whole plane is shaking,,,,,from me. thanks walt evans NX140DL ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:09 PM PST US From: "Kenneth M. Heide" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wheels and brakes...... Just a quick note from the village idiot in the north central part of the country. Has any one thought of using dics brakes and pedals from American Power Sports? They are a carting company that makes very compact and useful brakes calipers and brake pedals. If this equipment is used to stop a cart that travels around 80-100 miles per hour, why can it nor be used in our situation? Lastly, I too am interested in smooth rims as seen in Canyon Run motorcycle catalog. The question I have is what height works best when seeking out the finish wheel design? Is it 19 " or 21"? Ken Heide Fargo, ND --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:14:56 PM PST US From: "Kenneth M. Heide" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Going to Broadhead... Scott, I just (2 years ago) moved from Albany, WI ( 7 miles west from Brodhead, WI) and can tell you their is excellent transportation into the city and a very updated hotel for you to stay. By the way, their is a beautiful grass strip in Albany, WI where you can land and walk over to the convenience store for goodies, gas, etc.... When you are at the annual fly-in, make sure to walk through all the hangars that are open to the public. You will see this group is probably the best antique builders group anywhere. Examine the techniques and observe the stuff several of these builders are putting together. You will be amazed at the knowledge and the creative way they can repair and put things back in the air. Truly a builders paradise. Good luck and I hope to be their someday with you in my newly started Piet project. Kenneth M. Heide Fargo, ND Robison wrote: Can anyone tell me if there is there a good reasonably priced hotel close to Broadhead for the annual Piet gathering and do I need to join Chapter 431? I plan on doing that anyway but, I didn't know if I have to be a member to get in. Thanks, Scott Robison Charleston, IL. --------------------------------- Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:34 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cold weather gear In a message dated 1/1/2006 3:02:44 PM Central Standard Time, waltdak@verizon.net writes: I've flown during some cold days, but when I get back on the ground, I realize the whole plane is shaking,,,,,from me. Walt, If you cover the front cockpit, you can go from uncontrolable body shaking, to just some jittering teeth... Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:39:46 PM PST US From: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cold weather gear --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" Walt, Being from AK, feel can make a few recommendations about cold/wet weather gear. Costco is currently offering a wet/cold 2 pc. rip-stop nylon suit with velco in all the right places for about $50. Layer-up using poly longjohns under this type of wind wet tight gear and you'll be nice and cozy without the bulk. Gordon Bowen N-1033B Original Message: ----------------- From: walt evans waltdak@verizon.net Subject: Pietenpol-List: cold weather gear Looking for advice on clothing for cold weather flying. I've tried a snow suit, but I feel like the Michelin Man. Anyone know of a supplier that has something that is thin and warm? Also gloves, and what on the head. Normally I fly with a kacki cloth helmet with a headset. Any and all inputs would be welcomed. The days here in Northern NJ are short and cold and damp, but I sure long to fly, even for a short time. I've flown during some cold days, but when I get back on the ground, I realize the whole plane is shaking,,,,,from me. thanks walt evans NX140DL ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:02:49 PM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cold weather gear --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" Gordon, Never shopped at Costco. When I tried their search, on their site, came up with nothing. What would it be called? thanks walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cold weather gear > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" > > > Walt, > Being from AK, feel can make a few recommendations about cold/wet weather > gear. Costco is currently offering a wet/cold 2 pc. rip-stop nylon suit > with velco in all the right places for about $50. Layer-up using poly > longjohns under this type of wind wet tight gear and you'll be nice and > cozy without the bulk. > Gordon Bowen > N-1033B > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: walt evans waltdak@verizon.net > Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:01:01 -0500 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: cold weather gear > > > Looking for advice on clothing for cold weather flying. I've tried a snow > suit, but I feel like the Michelin Man. Anyone know of a supplier that > has > something that is thin and warm? Also gloves, and what on the head. > Normally I fly with a kacki cloth helmet with a headset. > Any and all inputs would be welcomed. > The days here in Northern NJ are short and cold and damp, but I sure long > to fly, even for a short time. > I've flown during some cold days, but when I get back on the ground, I > realize the whole plane is shaking,,,,,from me. > thanks > walt evans > NX140DL > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:48 PM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wheels and brakes...... Ken, My rims were 18" so I guess the finish OD would be about 21" walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth M. Heide To: Pietenpol Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 4:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wheels and brakes...... Just a quick note from the village idiot in the north central part of the country. Has any one thought of using dics brakes and pedals from American Power Sports? They are a carting company that makes very compact and useful brakes calipers and brake pedals. If this equipment is used to stop a cart that travels around 80-100 miles per hour, why can it nor be used in our situation? Lastly, I too am interested in smooth rims as seen in Canyon Run motorcycle catalog. The question I have is what height works best when seeking out the finish wheel design? Is it 19 " or 21"? Ken Heide Fargo, ND ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:48 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: oil recommendation --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright Oscar, In the A65, we used Phillips 66 X/C 20W50 in the winter and AeroShell Oil W100 Plus for the other seasons. We operate near Atlanta. There is no particular reason for these choices - they were available and seemed to work fine. Before this, I flew a C-172 for years and its owner used AeroShell Oil W100 Plus year round. Given your location, I would be surprised if the AeroShell Oil W100 Plus or another premium single-grade isn't your best choice. Jeff >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" > >Howdy, low 'n' slow fliers; > >It won't be much longer before I'll be needing to refill the oil >sump on the A65 and I'm looking for recommendations on what to use >here in South Texas. Forget snow, ice, low temperatures, and all >that... we are hot & dusty most of the time. I'm open to >suggestions as to what oil all y'all are flying in your small >Continentals in these airplanes (Piets, Cubs, early Cessnas, >T-Crafts, etc.) > >Thanks, and here's to a new and improved 2006! > >Oscar Zuniga ("El Taco Flaco") >San Antonio, TX >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CorkyPiet.html ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:40 PM PST US <005301c60f13$a0bf88a0$c3afd618@DJJYD981> From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Pietenpol-List: Smooth cycle tires; Was: Motorcycle wheels Fred, I'd be interested in the source of the smooth tires, too. Thanks, Jeff >Fred...Did you mean you've found a couple of smooth tires or a >SOURCE of smooth tires? If so, I'd like to find out where I can get >some.....Good luck with the wheels...Sounds most interesting...Carl > >----- Original Message ----- >From: TBYH@aol.com >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:34 PM >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Motorcycle wheels > >Speaking of wheels, I've purchased (on e-Bay) a pair of the solid >disk cast aluminum wheels as used on Harley Davidson "Fat Boy" >motorcycles. I like the 1920-ish airplane looks and I believe they >are stronger than spoked wheels plus I won't have to worry about >spoke maintenance, etc. They're a little heavy, which is okay on the >front end of the plane, but I can lighten them a couple pounds by >removing the sealed bearings and spacer inside the wheels. For just >taxiing and landing and taking off, I don't think I need roller >bearings -- just run the wheel on the tube axle and keep 'em >greased. Also, the brake rotors will bolt right to the wheels -- >just need to fabricate the caliper mount. I've also found some >smooth tread tires to use, too. Anyway, this is my wheel "solution" >at the moment. Of course the proof is in the pudding, so in a year >or two when my ship flies, I'll report back. > >Happy New Year --and Happy Landings -- to all! > >Fred B. >La Crosse, WI ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:48 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Going to Broadhead... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright Scott, The Sutherland House bed and breakfast has four guest rooms. http://www.innsite.com/inns/A000310.html Earth Rider Hotel is a 5-room boutique hotel http://www.earthridercycling.com/hotel/index.php I've stayed at the Sutherland House several times. Nice place and good owners; they are very appreciative of the fly-in crowd. If the wx is good, it's beautiful but long walk to the airport. Earth Rider Hotel is new, so I don't know what it's like. HTH, Jeff >Can anyone tell me if there is there a good reasonably priced hotel >close to Broadhead for the annual Piet gathering and do I need to >join Chapter 431? I plan on doing that anyway but, I didn't know if >I have to be a member to get in. > >Thanks, > >Scott Robison >Charleston, IL. > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:21:19 PM PST US From: "Robison" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Going to Broadhead... Thankyou Jeff Boatright and Kenneth Heide, I' ve made reservations at the new Earth Rider Hotel. The lady on the phone was very friendly. She told me that they are only a 1/2 mile from the Piet fly-in and she would provide bicycles to their guests to ride back-n-forth and around town at their convenience. I can't wait ! See you all there... Scott Robison