Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 01/02/06


Total Messages Posted: 21



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     1. 12:00 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
     2. 05:26 AM - Piet wheels (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
     3. 06:08 AM - Re: oil recommendation (Phillips, Jack)
     4. 09:01 AM - Fuel Tank Fittings (Tom Stinemetze)
     5. 09:08 AM - cart brakes  (Douwe Blumberg)
     6. 09:08 AM - cart brakes  (Douwe Blumberg)
     7. 09:28 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Fittings (Jeff Boatright)
     8. 09:32 AM - Re: cart brakes (Jeff Boatright)
     9. 09:46 AM - FlyCorvair update (Oscar Zuniga)
    10. 12:03 PM - Piets at houston (javcr)
    11. 12:21 PM - Re: Congressman Sweeney's bill to enhance private airport security (Sterling)
    12. 12:21 PM - Re: Piets at houston (Sterling)
    13. 04:06 PM - Re: Wheels and brakes...... (Dick Navratil)
    14. 04:16 PM - Fuel cells? (Rick Holland)
    15. 04:38 PM - Re: Piets at houston (HVandervoo@aol.com)
    16. 05:28 PM - Re: oil recommendation (Rcaprd@aol.com)
    17. 05:39 PM - Re: oil recommendation (Sterling)
    18. 05:53 PM - fuselage+tail weight? (Jeff Boatright)
    19. 06:05 PM - Re: oil recommendation (Jeff Boatright)
    20. 06:43 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Fittings (Rcaprd@aol.com)
    21. 07:44 PM - A65 idle RPM (Oscar Zuniga)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:00:26 AM PST US
    From: dralle@matronics.com
    Subject: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
    DNA: do not archive --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com Dear Lister, Please read over the Pietenpol-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Pietenpol-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Pietenpol-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Pietenpol-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Pietenpol-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Pietenpol-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Pietenpol-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Pietenpol-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. - Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by List members promoting their respective products or items for sale should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. ------- [This is an automated posting.]


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    Time: 05:26:31 AM PST US
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    From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
    Subject: Piet wheels
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Ken: I'm using Hagar brake kit (axels, hubs, calipers) from AS&S. They originated in the cart ind. Smooth tires. (ATV, not motorcycle) Leon S.


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    Time: 06:08:42 AM PST US
    Subject: oil recommendation
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Hi Oscar, I ran straight mineral oil (SAE 50 wt) in mine for the first 25 hours for break-in. Since then I've been running Aeroshell Oil W 100, Ashless Dispersant (which is also what I've run in every plane I've ever owned, including a J-3 with an A65 Continental). Jack Phillips NX899JP -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: oil recommendation --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Howdy, low 'n' slow fliers; It won't be much longer before I'll be needing to refill the oil sump on the A65 and I'm looking for recommendations on what to use here in South Texas. Forget snow, ice, low temperatures, and all that... we are hot & dusty most of the time. I'm open to suggestions as to what oil all y'all are flying in your small Continentals in these airplanes (Piets, Cubs, early Cessnas, T-Crafts, etc.) Thanks, and here's to a new and improved 2006! Oscar Zuniga ("El Taco Flaco") San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CorkyPiet.html


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    Time: 09:01:49 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Stinemetze" <tstinemetze@cox.net>
    Subject: Fuel Tank Fittings
    I was blessed over the Christmas long weekend with a visit from my son, the composites expert. We spent a considerable amount of time out in my shop building a fiberglass fuel tank for the wing center section of my Air Camper project. WHAT FUN! Anyway, we put in all the reinforced areas for the sump drains, etc. by looking at representative fittings in the ASS catalog but that got me to thinking. Are there any significant differences between aircraft grade fuel fittings and those available from, say, Autozone or NAPA? I was going to locate a filler neck from a salvage yard but am having difficulty finding one with the old style cap. Any advice? Second question. The fuel tank has to be cut out to leave room for bolt heads or nuts that go through the spar to attach the wing spar fittings and pulleys. One of these bolt locations interferes directly with the 3/8" wide compression struts. Is it acceptable to utilize a blind nut in this location so that the compression strut bears directly against it? Thanks and a Happy New Year to all. Tom Stinemetze, McPherson, KS. ____ | ____ \8/ / \


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    Time: 09:08:09 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: cart brakes
    Ken, Walt has some cart brakes on his Piet. He used the mechanical drum brakes, and I've seen guys use the mechanical disk brakes too. He says they work well on asphalt, but they're not overly agressive, which he likes. Based on his last email to me, he sounds very happy with them. If I ever have to add brakes, i'd go that route and build the drum into the hub assembly so the brakes could be INSIDE the wheel. Douwe


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    Time: 09:08:43 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: cart brakes
    Ken, Walt has some cart brakes on his Piet. He used the mechanical drum brakes, and I've seen guys use the mechanical disk brakes too. He says they work well on asphalt, but they're not overly agressive, which he likes. Based on his last email to me, he sounds very happy with them. If I ever have to add brakes, i'd go that route and build the drum into the hub assembly so the brakes could be INSIDE the wheel. Douwe


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    Time: 09:28:42 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Fittings
    Tom, From my limited experience, a lot of the fuel fittings I see in Piets and similar experimentals are natural gas fittings right from the hardware store. In fact, the "non-FAA-approved" fuel cut-off valve that Wicks sells looks identical to the natural gas hardware store item. I do not know if this is good, bad, or indifferent; it's just what I've seen. Jeff >I was blessed over the Christmas long weekend with a visit from my >son, the composites expert. We spent a considerable amount of time >out in my shop building a fiberglass fuel tank for the wing center >section of my Air Camper project. WHAT FUN! Anyway, we put in all >the reinforced areas for the sump drains, etc. by looking at >representative fittings in the ASS catalog but that got me to >thinking. Are there any significant differences between aircraft >grade fuel fittings and those available from, say, Autozone or NAPA? > I was going to locate a filler neck from a salvage yard but am >having difficulty finding one with the old style cap. Any advice? > >Second question. The fuel tank has to be cut out to leave room for >bolt heads or nuts that go through the spar to attach the wing spar >fittings and pulleys. One of these bolt locations interferes >directly with the 3/8" wide compression struts. Is it acceptable to >utilize a blind nut in this location so that the compression strut >bears directly against it? > >Thanks and a Happy New Year to all. >Tom Stinemetze, McPherson, KS. > >____ | ____ > \8/ > / \ >


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    Time: 09:32:02 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: cart brakes
    This is the set-up on our Piet. As long as you keep the cables adjusted, they are OK. As Ken says that Walt says, they are not aggressive (in fact, they barely hold at run up), but they provide plenty of stopping force for us (so far!) without too much threat of being strong enough to flip the plane if you stomp on them. >Ken, > >Walt has some cart brakes on his Piet. He used the mechanical drum >brakes, and I've seen guys use the mechanical disk brakes too. > >He says they work well on asphalt, but they're not overly agressive, >which he likes. Based on his last email to me, he sounds very happy >with them. > >If I ever have to add brakes, i'd go that route and build the drum >into the hub assembly so the brakes could be INSIDE the wheel. > >Douwe


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    Time: 09:46:11 AM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: FlyCorvair update
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> ... is on William's website, at http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html with some pictures from his "winter whirlwind trip" over the holidays. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 12:03:55 PM PST US
    From: javcr <javcr@prodigy.net.mx>
    Subject: Piets at houston
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: javcr <javcr@prodigy.net.mx> Hi friends, my best wishes for this 2006 for all. Someone here knows the mail of Hans van der Voort, it looks that there are a good piet on the Houston area, i have the tuesday off so maybe i have the chance of some pictures... Javier Cruz


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    Time: 12:21:05 PM PST US
    From: "Sterling" <sterling@pgrb.com>
    Subject: Re: Congressman Sweeney's bill to enhance private
    airport security --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sterling" <sterling@pgrb.com> Hey Jeff: Everything in this is undestandable, with the exception of the Alpo diet. There is already way too much in the way of viscious cow droppings on the buffalo grass runway as deposited by the Texas Longhorns. If the 7 dogs started on the Alpo, I am very afraid their slippery contributions to said runway could effect braking action at 5TA6. It probably wouldn't be so bad in August when everything down here tends to bake and dry-out in the sun, but otherwise, this is a serious safety issue as I see it. Sterling Orville Brooks (S.O.B ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Congressman Sweeney's bill to enhance private airport security > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu> > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > Dear Mr. Sterling Brooks, > > President Bush has closely reviewed your Plan for Security Against > Terrorists or Men of Arab Background at 5TA6 (henceforth referred to as > PSATMAB-5TA6) and finds that He must reject it. > > Below are the reasons for rejection and suggestions for changes to > PSATMAB-5TA6 that _may_ bring it into compliance with the National > Security Goals of President Bush and His various Administrative Arms. > > Rejection Reason 1: It is potentially too effective. Implementing such a > plan will likely deter Acts of Terrorism at 5TA6 and thus may contrast > with the planning of the Administration of President Bush as pertains to > other potential terrorist targets of opportunity such as power plants, > bridges, and harbors. Making the Administration of President Bush look bad > runs counter to the National Security Goals of the Administration of > President Bush. > > Potential Remedy 1: Make the plan less effective. Propose to remove all > the fences around facility 5TA6. Propose to feed your dogs several cans of > Alpo daily to slow them down, give them the trots, and make them > lethargic. See also Potential Remedy 2 for additional commentary that may > impact Rejection Reason 1. > > Rejection Reason 2: The complete lack of proposed use of color coding and > duct tape indicates that you're not serious about security. > > Potential Remedy 2: Possibly the plan would be almost certified if you > proposed to spray paint five of your dogs in the TSA-approved Terror Alert > Colors and duct taped the other two dogs together. Note that this would > partially remedy Rejection Reason 1 as such actions would make the dogs > easier for Terrorists and Men of Arab Background to see. Also, duct taping > two of the dogs together will probably make them less effective. We > suggest taping the two non-socialized German shepherds together. Good > luck. > > (Note also that the Administration of President Bush takes a dim view of > any proposal that includes the use of German foreign nationals since > Germany is not a part of the Coalition of the Billing. And how useful are > shepherds for security anyway? Where do the sheep come into this at all? > Due to this egregious silliness on your part, you are now on a Security > Watch List. Maybe. We don't really divulge who is or is not on that list. > Again, good luck.) > > Rejection Reason 3: PSATMAB-5TA6 does not cost enough. Cost-effectiveness > runs counter to every initiative of the Administration of President Bush. > Honestly, President Bush is surprised that you did not pick up on this > since not only is his borrow-and-spend philosophy a cornerstone to his > National Security Plan, but it is also the cornerstone of every one of his > other policies, both Foreign and Domestic. > > Potential Remedy 3: Please pay closer attention to what we do, not what we > say. PSATMAB-5TA6 does not even include a budget, much less a cost-plus > procurement plan! We suggest that you propose a budget of at least $5 > billion dollars for PSATMAB-5TA6. Do not feel that you will be limited by > this amount. We understand that Alpo, spray paint, and duct tape are > expensive. Don't worry, even if the Chinese stop loaning us money, we'll > just print more! > > Rejection Reason 4: PSATMAB-5TA6 lacks no-bid contracting to Halliburton > or subsidiaries. This is related to but separate from Rejection Reason 3. > > Potential Remedy 4: Propose to no-bid subcontract to Boots and Roots or > Toots and Coots or Loots and Hoots (or any other Halliburton subsidiary, > domestic or offshore) the feeding of Alpo to the dogs, the spray painting > of the dogs, the duct taping of the dogs, the fence removal, and any other > actions you would like carried out at 5TA6, including but not limited the > purchase of mink coats and diamonds for Mrs. Sterling Brooks (you'll need > these; see below). An alternative proposal that would be viewed positively > would be to simply write checks directly to Vice-President Cheney, though > such streamlining runs somewhat counter to our normal operating procedures > of incompetence, secrecy, and obfuscation. > > Rejection Reason 5: There is no Rejection Reason 5. President Bush does > not need a reason for any of His actions. In rejecting PSATMAB-5TA6, > President Bush is exercising His Powers of Executive Aw-Tho-Ree-Tay in > Wartime. Respect His Aw-Tho-Ree-Tay! Such Aw-Tho-Ree-Tay cannot be > questioned, nor is Congressional oversight allowed. (By the way, the NSA > knows every web site you've ever visited and has made Mrs. Sterling Brooks > aware of these data. She is not amused. Is she really that good with the > Glock? Again, good luck.) > > Potential Remedy 5: None. Sorry if you got this far thinking that you > could somehow revise PSATMAB-5TA6 into an acceptable form. President Bush > doesn't like it, He doesn't like you, and He doesn't revisit decisions > once He's made them. Proposal PSATMAB-5TA6 and you yourself are thus SOL. > (See U.S. Government Publication 544378D3a-SOL for explanation of SOL. All > Government Publications are available by writing 'Pueblo, Colorado' on a > piece of toilet paper and flushing. Twice.) However, thank you for making > the Administration of President Bush aware of your security concerns at > 5TA6. Vice-President Cheney needs another Undisclosed Location in Texas > now that there's no brush left at Crawford. We have thus declared 5TA6 a > permanent ADIZ. Please halt all aerial and ground operations or movements > of any kind at 5TA6. Note that this removes any security concerns you may > have had about 5TA6 as you will no longer be allowed to live there. The > Administration of President Bush realizes that this may be viewed as a > sacrifice on your part. Please don't whine about that or we'll have Bill > O'Reilly report on Live National TV that you're a Liberal Democrat. > Swoosh-Bang! > > Sincerely, > > John Poindexter Pierponte Negroponte > Chief Lackey of the Day > "I'm from the Federal Government and I'm here to help. Myself." > > >>DO NOT ARCHIVE >> >>I and several neighbors who have their own airstrips on their farms or >>ranches have been getting mail from "vendors" who for a fee, will write a >>Security Plan to comply with the "General Aviation Security Act of 2005" >>that Mr. Sweeney introduced recently. >> >>I sent the below text to AOPA asking for clarification on this issue... >>The text is submitted for your inspection and review and if anybody else >>on the list who has their own airport on their place needing to "comply" >>with this act, maybe my text will comply and you can copy it for your use >>(ammend as needed) and send it to Congressman Sweeney. >> >>***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** >> >>Dear AOPA, (I need your help) >> >>I (and a few friends) who own their own landing strips (in my case 5TA6) >>keep getting mail about the General Aviation Security Act of 2005. The >>people sending this mail are saying they can comply with this act and >>write a "security plan" for my private airport for a fee. >> >>The way I look at it, if someone tries to "breach" the security of my >>airstrip here on my ranch, they have to go through my locked gate or crawl >>over my electric fence, then get past all of my 7 dogs (two of which are >>unsocialized German Shepherds that have bitten kinfolk). Then the >>"terrorist" has to get by me with my assortment of shotguns and handguns >>(I was an expert on the Colt 45 when I was in Navy OCS in 1982) and my >>wife is a crack shot with her 9mm Glock. >> >>I suspect the potential soundrels who are "targeted" under this rule are >>men of Arab background, ages 19 to 45 and would look different than most >>of the folks who live here in Central Texas? My dogs will recognize these >>scoundrels Muy Pronto as we say here in Texas. >> >>Do I need to write a security plan to comply with the "Act" or will my >>above text be sufficient to suggest I have adequate security on my place >>down here in Texas? If so, I am VERY happy to send the above text to >>Congressman Sweeny who introduced this bill to the Committee on Homeland >>Security. >> >>Sterling Brooks >>Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch. >> >>(Oh, I forgot to mention I was an M-60 machinegunner with the Army in >>Vietnam (as a volunteer, not a draftee)... and I'm still pretty good with >>my AR-15, despite wearing bi-focals and no longer a teenager with a gun in >>Vietnam...) >> >>DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > >


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    Time: 12:21:28 PM PST US
    From: "Sterling" <sterling@pgrb.com>
    Subject: Re: Piets at houston
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sterling" <sterling@pgrb.com> Javier: Where you been, compadre? ----- Original Message ----- From: "javcr" <javcr@prodigy.net.mx> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets at houston > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: javcr <javcr@prodigy.net.mx> > > Hi friends, my best wishes for this 2006 for all. > > Someone here knows the mail of Hans van der Voort, it looks that there are > a good piet on the Houston area, i have the tuesday off so maybe i have > the chance of some pictures... > Javier Cruz > > >


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    Time: 04:06:01 PM PST US
    From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: Wheels and brakes......
    Ken I am using Wildwood kart hydrolic calipers with my Harley rotors. They work fine , but they only hold to about 1400 rpm on the A-65. Thats not much of a problem, better than too much grip and nosing over. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth M. Heide To: Pietenpol Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wheels and brakes...... Just a quick note from the village idiot in the north central part of the country. Has any one thought of using dics brakes and pedals from American Power Sports? They are a carting company that makes very compact and useful brakes calipers and brake pedals. If this equipment is used to stop a cart that travels around 80-100 miles per hour, why can it nor be used in our situation? Lastly, I too am interested in smooth rims as seen in Canyon Run motorcycle catalog. The question I have is what height works best when seeking out the finish wheel design? Is it 19 " or 21"? Ken Heide Fargo, ND


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    Time: 04:16:51 PM PST US
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Subject: Fuel cells?
    *Was looking through my Summit Racing catalog today and noticed that they sell reasonably priced fuel cells make of 5051 ** powdercoated **aluminum or polyethylene. They are for race cars so they are far more crash-resistent than anything I could build out of aluminum or glass and they use all AN vent and pickup fittings. They come in 3 to 20 gal. capacities ($90 to $200). Has anyone heard of something like this being used in a Piet for a behind the firewall fuel tank?* -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 04:38:35 PM PST US
    From: HVandervoo@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Piets at houston
    Javier, You are more than welcome. My address is; 32226 Windrose Lane Waller Texas. 20 miles NW of Houston (take Hwy 290, exit FM 362, 5 miles south) My House is at Waller Skydive airport, 3XS7, Hangar and airstrip in the back yard. I will be back to work on Tuesday but if you can make at around 4 PM. I will be home. Hans


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    Time: 05:28:42 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: oil recommendation
    In a message dated 1/2/2006 8:10:04 AM Central Standard Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes: Hi Oscar, I ran straight mineral oil (SAE 50 wt) in mine for the first 25 hours for break-in. Since then I've been running Aeroshell Oil W 100, Ashless Dispersant (which is also what I've run in every plane I've ever owned, including a J-3 with an A65 Continental). Jack Phillips NX899JP Hey Oscar, I used the same exact sequence that Jack did. I changed the oil after the first hour, then about every 5 hours, then after about 30 hrs of operation, I switched to the Aeroshell W100. I never have found anything in the screen, other than some carbon that would smush to carbon black between my thumb and finger. Chuck Gantzer NX770CG


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    Time: 05:39:59 PM PST US
    From: "Sterling" <sterling@pgrb.com>
    Subject: Re: oil recommendation
    Oscar: ECI in San Antonio mandates mineral oil for break-in. ECI produces a very good pamplet about why mineral oil is critical for break-in. They are friendly folks (having done two engines with them) and you can just drop into their office an pick up their literature if you are close by. Sterling ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:28 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: oil recommendation In a message dated 1/2/2006 8:10:04 AM Central Standard Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes: Hi Oscar, I ran straight mineral oil (SAE 50 wt) in mine for the first 25 hours for break-in. Since then I've been running Aeroshell Oil W 100, Ashless Dispersant (which is also what I've run in every plane I've ever owned, including a J-3 with an A65 Continental). Jack Phillips NX899JP Hey Oscar, I used the same exact sequence that Jack did. I changed the oil after the first hour, then about every 5 hours, then after about 30 hrs of operation, I switched to the Aeroshell W100. I never have found anything in the screen, other than some carbon that would smush to carbon black between my thumb and finger. Chuck Gantzer NX770CG


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    Time: 05:53:38 PM PST US
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    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: fuselage+tail weight?
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu> Listers, Randy tells me that his steel fuselage and tail members weigh 110 lbs. Does anyone know what the wooden equivalents weight? Thanks, Jeff -- Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Ophthalmology Emory University School of Medicine Atlanta, GA 30322 Editor-in-Chief Molecular Vision http://www.molvis.org/


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    Time: 06:05:26 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: oil recommendation
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu> Oscar, Are you trying to break in a newly-rebuilt engine? If so, sorry, I misunderstood. As others have written, straight mineral oil without dispersants should be used for break in. Some shops call for this even with just (relatively) simple cylinder replacement. Jeff >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> > >Howdy, low 'n' slow fliers; > >It won't be much longer before I'll be needing to refill the oil >sump on the A65 and I'm looking for recommendations on what to use >here in South Texas. Forget snow, ice, low temperatures, and all >that... we are hot & dusty most of the time. I'm open to >suggestions as to what oil all y'all are flying in your small >Continentals in these airplanes (Piets, Cubs, early Cessnas, >T-Crafts, etc.) > >Thanks, and here's to a new and improved 2006! > >Oscar Zuniga ("El Taco Flaco")


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    Time: 06:43:39 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Fittings
    Tom et All, Fuel related reasons are the cause for the majority of off field landings. Therefore, extensive research & design Must be put in to your fuel system. See what works, and what doesn't work. Keep the final design simple. Use only quality fittings (aviation fittings are 37=BA), and carefully route and secure all fuel lines. Use 3/8" alum line, and be sure it supplies adequate fuel quantity at the carburetor, with a very tail low attitude, before the first flight. As for my fuel system, I have two fuel tanks (9.7 gal Wing / 10.6 Cowl), both made from fiberglass and Polyester resin (auto body repair). I think I would use West System Epoxy if I would do it again., because they say Alcohol will effect the polyester type resin, although I've not seen any degradation in the resin...so far. One outlet in the center of the wing tank at the lowest point when in level attitude, with a ball valve right above the passenger's head, operated by a torque tube type handle. The cowling tank has one outlet, at the lowest point in the center front of the tank, through the firewall, and has a ball valve on the engine side of the firewall. That's not an acceptable place for the valve...it should be on the aft side of the firewall. It drains down to the gascolator, located on the lowest point in the fuel system for sump. The gascolator MUST be above the bottom of the firewall, in case you wipe out the gear, the fuel system is not violated. There are SO many things that must be considered in the design of a reliable fuel system...like to keep a continous downhill flow for water to get to the gascolator (no loops, or back uphill route) with the fuel lines. I have Never found any water in my fuel system, but I still sump before EVERY flight. And above all - Keep it Simple. Chuck Gantzer NX770CG p.s. My West Virginia Mountaineers are KICKIN' Georgia Butt in the Sugar Bowl !!!!!!! first quarter - W V U - 21 Georgia - 0 YEEEE HAAAWWW !! GO MOUNTAINEERS !!!!


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    Time: 07:44:56 PM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: A65 idle RPM
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Howdy again, Low 'n' Slow fliers- For those flying behind Continental A65s, what is the recommended idle RPM? I've got a rebuilt carb and will be setting the idle speed in a week or two, and need to know what these engines like. Thanks! Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net




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