Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 01/04/06


Total Messages Posted: 21



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:26 AM - Re: A65 idle RPM (harvey rule)
     2. 05:24 AM - Re: Discs for brakes (Phillips, Jack)
     3. 05:39 AM - Re: Wing Build Question (Phillips, Jack)
     4. 06:13 AM - Re: A65 idle RPM (Robert Gow)
     5. 06:34 AM - wooden trailing edge idea---sketch attached  (Michael D Cuy)
     6. 07:04 AM - Re: A65 idle RPM (harvey rule)
     7. 07:48 AM - Re: Wing Build Question (Hodgson, Mark O)
     8. 11:02 AM - Re: Gusset dimensions (tmbrant1@netzero.com)
     9. 01:38 PM - OFF TOPIC Fw: How To Fly A Jenny (barnstmr@aol.com)
    10. 01:44 PM - Re: wooden trailing edge idea---sketch attached ()
    11. 02:22 PM - Re: A65 idle RPM (walt evans)
    12. 03:23 PM - Re: Warm wear (walt evans)
    13. 04:10 PM - Spring landing gear! (Kenneth M. Heide)
    14. 04:13 PM - Seat belt information..... (Kenneth M. Heide)
    15. 04:45 PM - Re: Warm wear (Isablcorky@aol.com)
    16. 05:03 PM - Re: Warm wear (gbowen@ptialaska.net)
    17. 05:34 PM - Re: A65 idle RPM (Gary Gower)
    18. 06:42 PM - Re: Seat belt information..... (Dick Navratil)
    19. 08:00 PM - Re: A65 idle RPM (Robert Gow)
    20. 09:59 PM - Big Tundra Tires (Robison)
    21. 10:20 PM - Fw: Big Tundra Tires (Robison)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:26:36 AM PST US
    From: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
    Subject: Re: A65 idle RPM
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> Just thought I'd check because there have been those in the past that have walked away from an idling aircraft and not only do they look like an idiot but damage to other aircraft has been known to happen;good to here you arn't one of those guys or gals.


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    Time: 05:24:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Discs for brakes
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    One thing to bear in mind if you are using the large diameter wire wheels - it is hard to stop a large diameter wheel. I've got 21" wheels on my Piet, with Cleveland 8" disc brakes. Those brakes are able to hold it for a runup on grass, but not at full power. On pavement, even a runup at 1500 RPM will cause a slow creep with the brakes on as hard as I can hold them. I noticed on Dick Navratil's pictures of his beautiful radial powered Pietenpol that he is using standard Harley-Davidson discs, which are about 12" in diameter. These should be much better than the smaller Clevelands. Airplanes quit using big wheels about the time they started using brakes. Jack Phillips NX899JP -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Egan Subject: Pietenpol-List: Discs for brakes Regarding disc brake discussions: Does anyone have a name and part number of a suitable disc to use for disc brakes. I would like to attach the discs to a straight axle hub similar to that shown in the "Flying and Glider Manual". I have a set of small mechanically operated calipers. Thank you. John


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    Time: 05:39:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Wing Build Question
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    Hi Glenn, Good questions. See answers in Bold below: Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Thomas Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Build Question I've been gawking at Hoopman Wing Plan (WP) Drawing (3/3/34), the Full Size Rib Plan and the 3 Piece Wing Supplement drawing (1/10/75 revised 3/13/82) and need a little help before I build my rib jig and start cranking out garbage. That's not garbage - that's a "Wall Hanging" Full size rib plan shows vertical braces in the ribs one behind the front spar and one ahead of the rear spar. 3/3/34 WP drawing doesn't show these. These vertical braces seem like they definitely should be there for strength and alignment reasons, right? I added these verticals on mine. Full Size Rib Plan shows a slot for a tongue in the trailing edge. Do you have to create your own TE stock? Didn't see it on Aircraft Spruce site, but it might be called something else and I'm looking in the wrong place. I used aluminum trailing edge stock from Aircraft Spruce. Be every careful if using this to make sure the rib trailing adge goes all the way into the trailing edge bend line, otherwise the tension from the shrunk fabric will gradually cause the TE to move, which will make a series of small puckers in the fabric just ahead of the TE. The aluminum TE is very light, and makes a nice sharp trailing edge to the airfoil, but it is easily bent if someone bumps their head into it. If I had it to do over, I'm not sure I would use it, but would probably use the wooden trailing shown on the plans. Original WP drawing (3/3/34) shows a 1" x 4.75" spar routed down to 1/2" in certain areas. 3 Piece Wing Supp. shows a dimension of 3/4" for thickness for spars and the same routed areas but no dimension on the thickness in the routed area. (Still maintain a 1/2" thickness inside routed area and remove 1/8" from each side?) Did Mr. Pietenpol determine that 1" was overkill? 3/4" just seems a little light. =BE" is the thickness used on any number of aerobatic airplanes, including Citabrias and Pitts Specials. It is plenty strong enough. I used =BE" spars fore and aft on mine, and routed the rear spars down to =BD" thickness per the plans. This saved almost 4 lbs of weight (Sitka spruce spars - it would save even more on Douglas Fir). Again, I will now take the lead for the least advanced questions posted on the list ...if your rib jig has clamps that hold the gussets in place while the T-88 sets, do you even need nails? I would think that 99.9% of the strength would come from the adhesive. I plan to use a custom clamp arrangement using light springs to distribute the pressure without starving the joint. Clamps are good enough for T-88. If you are using Resorcinol you need more pressure than that, and will need nails spaced =BE" apart. The nails can be pulled out after the glue cures. Thanks, Glenn Thomas


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    Time: 06:13:05 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
    Subject: A65 idle RPM
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca> Winter in Canada - I'd start my old T-Craft, leave it tied up, and go back in for a coffee for at least 10 minutes. What else are you going to do @ -20C? Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Harvey Rule Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A65 idle RPM --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@sympatico.ca> I trust while you are walking to the car to retrieve your helmet and goggles there is a qualified pilot sitting in the cockpit minding this aircraft for you???????????????? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net> > > Oscar, > After my rebuild for putting it in the piet, I had some problems > getting the idle mixture right. Had an approach at a low throttle > setting, and when I came on with the throttle for a fly-by, it > stumbled, and belched black smoke. Kind of scarey. > After I got it leaned to the correct (it seems) setting, It idles down > where my Mentor said was right,,,around 550/600. > It is a sweet sound, after you start and walk to the car to get helmet > and goggles, you turn and look at it just popping along, smooth as > silk. Hard to realize that it is 1945 technology. > Ain't life Grand? > walt evans > NX140DL > Still wish I could add a starter. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:44 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: A65 idle RPM > > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" >> <taildrags@hotmail.com> >> >> Howdy again, Low 'n' Slow fliers- >> >> For those flying behind Continental A65s, what is the recommended >> idle RPM? I've got a rebuilt carb and will be setting the idle speed >> in a week or two, and need to know what these engines like. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Oscar Zuniga >> San Antonio, TX >> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > >


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    Time: 06:34:46 AM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: wooden trailing edge idea---sketch attached
    As an alternative to using aluminum trailing edge material for your Pietenpol, I tried this method which I found to be very satisfactory in strength and hangar rash resistance. I simply butt glued this TE piece to the ends of the ribs and then clamped strips of 1/6" birch plywood to top and bottom overlapping TE piece and end of wing rib. After the assembly was cured I went back and 'feathered in' the birch strips so there wouldn't be as noticeable under the fabric--which they are not. Mike C.


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    Time: 07:04:17 AM PST US
    From: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
    Subject: Re: A65 idle RPM
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> Leaving it tied up is OK but I'd still have someone standing by ,just in case but you wouldn't believe the stuff I've seen guys do.Or heard of guys doing.I understand cold;I live in Ottawa.But I'd still have a body warmed up and breathing standing there.It would be just my luck that something would go wrong. Robert Gow wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca> > > Winter in Canada - I'd start my old T-Craft, leave it tied up, and go back > in for a coffee for at least 10 minutes. What else are you going to do > @ -20C? > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Harvey > Rule > Sent: January 3, 2006 9:26 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A65 idle RPM > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Harvey Rule <harvey.rule@sympatico.ca> > > I trust while you are walking to the car to retrieve your helmet and > goggles there is a qualified pilot sitting in the cockpit minding this > aircraft for you???????????????? > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net> > > > > > Oscar, > > After my rebuild for putting it in the piet, I had some problems > > getting the idle mixture right. Had an approach at a low throttle > > setting, and when I came on with the throttle for a fly-by, it > > stumbled, and belched black smoke. Kind of scarey. > > After I got it leaned to the correct (it seems) setting, It idles down > > where my Mentor said was right,,,around 550/600. > > It is a sweet sound, after you start and walk to the car to get helmet > > and goggles, you turn and look at it just popping along, smooth as > > silk. Hard to realize that it is 1945 technology. > > Ain't life Grand? > > walt evans > > NX140DL > > Still wish I could add a starter. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:44 PM > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: A65 idle RPM > > > > > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" > >> <taildrags@hotmail.com> > >> > >> Howdy again, Low 'n' Slow fliers- > >> > >> For those flying behind Continental A65s, what is the recommended > >> idle RPM? I've got a rebuilt carb and will be setting the idle speed > >> in a week or two, and need to know what these engines like. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Oscar Zuniga > >> San Antonio, TX > >> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > >> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:48:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wing Build Question
    From: "Hodgson, Mark O" <mhodgson@bu.edu>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hodgson, Mark O" <mhodgson@bu.edu> Glenn, The vertical struts are probably a good idea. Charlie Rubeck (may he rest in peace) said at Brodhead that if you included them, you didn't need the wedge at the top of the spar below the cap strip. I used the vertical struts, but the Tech Counselor from my EAA chapter who inspected my ribs thought it's a good idea to put the wedges in anyway (I'll worry about that before I put the ribs on the spar, but I've got enough to do in the meantime). Nails aren't necessary; 1/4 inch staples work great and will hold the rib together so it can dry outside of the jig. Removing them isn't hard, either, using a ground-down butter-knife blade (Charlie's technique). There are lots of opinions on the trailing edge--check the Matronics archives, etc. Good luck, Mark Hodgson


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    Time: 11:02:31 AM PST US
    From: "tmbrant1@netzero.com" <tmbrant1@netzero.net>
    Subject: Re: Gusset dimensions
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.com" <tmbrant1@netzero.net> I didn't see an answer to you questions but I just scaled mine from the dwg. Tom B.


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    Time: 01:38:00 PM PST US
    From: barnstmr@aol.com
    Subject: OFF TOPIC Fwd: How To Fly A Jenny
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: barnstmr@aol.com DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: Hatz Lyman C Subject: Fwd: Fw: How To Fly A Jenny Attached Message From: dave.novak@gulfstream.com To: Donner, Ronald W <ronald.donner@nwa.com>; HatzLymanC@aol.com Subject: Fw: How To Fly A Jenny Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 09:16:58 -0600 ----- Forwarded by Dave Novak/SAV/GAC on 01/04/06 09:15 AM ----- How To Fly A Jenny 1. Inspection: It is best not to inspect this ship. If you do, you will never get into it. 2. Climbing into the cockpit: Do not attempt to enter the cockpit in the usual way. If you put your weight on the lower wing panel, it will fall off, and besides, your foot will go through the wing, probably breaking your leg. The best way to enter the cockpit is to climb over the tail surfaces and crawl up the turtle back. Be sure to brush the gopher and squirrel nests out of the cockpit. Take care not to cut your hands on the remnants of the windshield. 3. Instruments: After having carefully lowered yourself into the seat and groped in vain for a safety belt, take a good look at the instruments; both of them. The one on the right is the tachometer. It doesn't work. The other one is an altimeter, and functioned perfectly until 1918, when the hand fell off. Look at them now, for after the engine starts you won't be able to. 4. Starting the motor: The switch is on the right; it is not connected.' However it gives a sense of confidence to the mechanic who is pulling the prop through to hear the switch click when you say "switch off." If for some reason the motor does start, don't get out to pick up the unconscious and bleeding mechanic, he deserved it. 5. Warming up: Don't warm up the engine. It will only run a few minutes anyway, and the longer it runs on the ground the less flying time you have. After the throttle is opened, do not expose any portion of your body outside the cockpit. It is no fun having your face slapped by a flying rocker arm, or being peppered with small bits of piston rings, valves, etc. that are continually coming out of the exhaust stacks. 6. The takeoff: The takeoff is in direct defiance of all the laws of nature. If you have a passenger, don't try it. 7. The flight: After you have dodged trees, windmills, and chimneys until you are over the lake, you will note a large hole in the left side of the fuselage. This hole is to allow the stick to be moved far enough to make a left turn. Don't try one to the right. 8. The landing: The landing is made in accordance with the laws of gravity. If the landing gear doesn't collapse on the first bounce, don't worry, it will on the second. After you have extricated yourself from the wreckage and helped the spectators put out the fire, light a cigarette, and with a nonchalant shrug walk disdainfully away.


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    Time: 01:44:03 PM PST US
    From: <glennthomas@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: wooden trailing edge idea---sketch attached
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <glennthomas@charter.net> Not only do I like this, it seems in keeping with BHP's resourceful style. Thanks, Glenn ---- Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> wrote: > As an alternative to using aluminum trailing edge material for your > Pietenpol, I tried this method which I found to be very satisfactory > in strength and hangar rash resistance. I simply butt glued this TE piece > to the ends of the ribs and then clamped strips of 1/6" birch > plywood to top and bottom overlapping TE piece and end of wing rib. > > After the assembly was cured I went back and 'feathered in' the birch > strips so there wouldn't be as noticeable under the fabric--which they > are not. > > Mike C.


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    Time: 02:22:59 PM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: A65 idle RPM
    <001301c610b5$b9b63950$6401a8c0@walt> <43BB3225.4040909@sympatico.ca> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net> Nah, the car is 15 feet away walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvey Rule" <harvey.rule@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A65 idle RPM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Harvey Rule > <harvey.rule@sympatico.ca> > > I trust while you are walking to the car to retrieve your helmet and > goggles there is a qualified pilot sitting in the cockpit minding this > aircraft for you???????????????? > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net> > >> >> Oscar, >> After my rebuild for putting it in the piet, I had some problems getting >> the idle mixture right. Had an approach at a low throttle setting, and >> when I came on with the throttle for a fly-by, it stumbled, and belched >> black smoke. Kind of scarey. >> After I got it leaned to the correct (it seems) setting, It idles down >> where my Mentor said was right,,,around 550/600. >> It is a sweet sound, after you start and walk to the car to get helmet >> and goggles, you turn and look at it just popping along, smooth as silk. >> Hard to realize that it is 1945 technology. >> Ain't life Grand? >> walt evans >> NX140DL >> Still wish I could add a starter. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> >> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:44 PM >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: A65 idle RPM >> >> >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" >>> <taildrags@hotmail.com> >>> >>> Howdy again, Low 'n' Slow fliers- >>> >>> For those flying behind Continental A65s, what is the recommended idle >>> RPM? I've got a rebuilt carb and will be setting the idle speed in a >>> week or two, and need to know what these engines like. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Oscar Zuniga >>> San Antonio, TX >>> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >>> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > >


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    Time: 03:23:57 PM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Warm wear
    Corky, called that number, and a recording gave me a new number to call. Then said that all calls cost $4.99. Oh well that number is off my shopping list. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Isablcorky@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Warm wear Pieters, Some talk lately about winter flying wear. I buy jump suits etc from this firm and have been satisfied. They have all sorts of warm sport clothing. I am not a stockholder of this firm. Trego's 2209 Oklahoma Woodward, Okla 73801 1 800 627 0692 For a free catalog and their mailing list Do NOt Archive


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    Time: 04:10:30 PM PST US
    From: "Kenneth M. Heide" <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Spring landing gear!
    Chuck G. NX770CG Chuck, I had the opportunity to enjoy your video and love your approach in life. Reminds of this statement...."Compassion is difficult to give away because it keeps coming back". I am wondering if you can forward me (to my e-mail) the drawings and information on your spring landing gear set-up. I like your system (for several reasons) and wish to incorporate it into my piet. Can you give me the necessary information to purchase springs, tubing, etc...... Keep flying and remember us in North Dakota....same flat land as Kansas! Ken Heide kmheidecpo@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.


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    Time: 04:13:07 PM PST US
    From: "Kenneth M. Heide" <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Seat belt information.....
    Pieter's...... Seeking design information and drawing/photos of the upper seat belt support set-up used in the piet. As mentioned in other messages, the town idiot is new to the list serve and this information may have been posted before. If you could direct me in the right direction......much appreciated. Otherwise please send the information to my e-mail address so I can create a nice system for my piet. Seatbeltcerly, Ken Heide kmheidecpo@yahoo.com ---------------------------------


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    Time: 04:45:30 PM PST US
    From: Isablcorky@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Warm wear
    Don't blame you. I was trying to help you, not them. Corky Do not archive


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    Time: 05:03:27 PM PST US
    From: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
    Subject: Re: Warm wear
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" <gbowen@ptialaska.net> Walt, That foul weather gear i was posting about from Costco is called Rockwater Design. Distributed via Canada but made in China (just like about everything else). I was impressed with the $50 buck price, decided to by myself a set. They're bibbed pants with wear pads on the seat and knees and the coat is pullover head type. I have some Helly Hansen gear for the boat up in Alaska, and this looks like very good quality for about 1/4 the price. No, I ain't got stock in China either, but do like Kung Pao Beef. Gordon Bowen Original Message: ----------------- From: walt evans waltdak@verizon.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Warm wear Corky, called that number, and a recording gave me a new number to call. Then said that all calls cost $4.99. Oh well that number is off my shopping list. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Isablcorky@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Warm wear Pieters, Some talk lately about winter flying wear. I buy jump suits etc from this firm and have been satisfied. They have all sorts of warm sport clothing. I am not a stockholder of this firm. Trego's 2209 Oklahoma Woodward, Okla 73801 1 800 627 0692 For a free catalog and their mailing list Do NOt Archive


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    Time: 05:34:50 PM PST US
    From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: A65 idle RPM
    Walt, Did you had kids? Remember when one (at kindergarten age), beeing a couple of feets away from you or wife, runned to the street in a store and you chased him before he got to the cars... thats desperate running!!! and was a little kid and only a couple of feets away from you... I know it happened to ALL of us that had kids, at least once... Got the idea? Is there a way to search specificaly to runaway planes accidents in FAA page? The only incident (type) here in our Club was years ago, a pusher with Rotax 912, runned away about 20 feet and crashed to a metalic sheet wall of a hangar and made a big bump, was a 7,000.00 dls repair bill just for the ultralight. The hangar owner didnt want it repair, So future pilots could learn. Still there to remind all of us about it. Never again a case here... Saludos Gary Gower Do not archive. walt evans <waltdak@verizon.net> wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" Nah, the car is 15 feet away walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvey Rule" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A65 idle RPM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Harvey Rule > > > I trust while you are walking to the car to retrieve your helmet and > goggles there is a qualified pilot sitting in the cockpit minding this > aircraft for you???????????????? > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" > >> >> Oscar, >> After my rebuild for putting it in the piet, I had some problems getting >> the idle mixture right. Had an approach at a low throttle setting, and >> when I came on with the throttle for a fly-by, it stumbled, and belched >> black smoke. Kind of scarey. >> After I got it leaned to the correct (it seems) setting, It idles down >> where my Mentor said was right,,,around 550/600. >> It is a sweet sound, after you start and walk to the car to get helmet >> and goggles, you turn and look at it just popping along, smooth as silk. >> Hard to realize that it is 1945 technology. >> Ain't life Grand? >> walt evans >> NX140DL >> Still wish I could add a starter. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:44 PM >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: A65 idle RPM >> >> >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" >>> >>> >>> Howdy again, Low 'n' Slow fliers- >>> >>> For those flying behind Continental A65s, what is the recommended idle >>> RPM? I've got a rebuilt carb and will be setting the idle speed in a >>> week or two, and need to know what these engines like. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Oscar Zuniga >>> San Antonio, TX >>> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >>> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net >>> ---------------------------------


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    Time: 06:42:45 PM PST US
    From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: Seat belt information.....
    Ken I ran a 3/32" cable from the tail wheel post forward with a "Y" in it. The upper goes to the shoulder harness and the bottom has a second "Y" to each side of the seat belts. The inspector was very happy with that. My passanger belt mounts go through the ash block behind the seat on each side . They are each a stainless eye bolt. The belts clip into them. The harness attaches to a bracket on the turtle deck which is also a windshield attach point. I had attached to top of a cabane as I have seen others do but the inspector wouldnt allow it. He was afraid of possible effects of a wing buckling forward in a crash. It was a easy change and kept him happy. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth M. Heide To: Pietenpol Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:12 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seat belt information..... Pieter's...... Seeking design information and drawing/photos of the upper seat belt support set-up used in the piet. As mentioned in other messages, the town idiot is new to the list serve and this information may have been posted before. If you could direct me in the right direction......much appreciated. Otherwise please send the information to my e-mail address so I can create a nice system for my piet. Seatbeltcerly, Ken Heide kmheidecpo@yahoo.com


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    Time: 08:00:43 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
    Subject: A65 idle RPM
    When starting the TCraft I was often alone. There were a couple of times I was glad it was tied up - just a little too much throttle. When starting on the lake in winter on skies I'd stand behind the prop with my hand in the cockpit in case it started to move. With the Chief you couldn't reach inside from that position because the door didn't fold flat against the fuselage. I've seen a runaway plane - it's very scary. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gary Gower Sent: January 4, 2006 8:34 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A65 idle RPM Walt, Did you had kids? Remember when one (at kindergarten age), beeing a couple of feets away from you or wife, runned to the street in a store and you chased him before he got to the cars... thats desperate running!!! and was a little kid and only a couple of feets away from you... I know it happened to ALL of us that had kids, at least once... Got the idea? Is there a way to search specificaly to runaway planes accidents in FAA page? The only incident (type) here in our Club was years ago, a pusher with Rotax 912, runned away about 20 feet and crashed to a metalic sheet wall of a hangar and made a big bump, was a 7,000.00 dls repair bill just for the ultralight. The hangar owner didnt want it repair, So future pilots could learn. Still there to remind all of us about it. Never again a case here... Saludos Gary Gower Do not archive. walt evans <waltdak@verizon.net> wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" Nah, the car is 15 feet away walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvey Rule" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 9:25 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A65 idle RPM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Harvey Rule > > > I trust while you are walking to the car to retrieve your helmet and > goggles there is a qualified pilot sitting in the cockpit minding this > aircraft for you???????????????? > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" > >> >> Oscar, >> After my rebuild for putting it in the piet, I had some problems getting >> the idle mixture right. Had an approach at a low throttle setting, and >> when I came on with the throttle for a fly-by, it stumbled, and belched >> black smoke. Kind of scarey. >> After I got it leaned to the correct (it seems) setting, It idles down >> where my Mentor said was right,,,around 550/600. >> It is a sweet sound, after you start and walk to the car to get helmet >> and goggles, you turn and look at it just popping along, smooth as silk. >> Hard to realize that it is 1945 technology. >> Ain't life Grand? >> walt evans >> NX140DL >> Still wish I could add a starter. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: " Oscar Zuniga" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:44 PM >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: A65 idle RPM >> >> >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" >>> >>> >>> Howdy again, Low 'n' Slow fliers- >>> >>> For those flying behind Continental A65s, what is the recommended idle >>> RPM? I've got a rebuilt carb and will be setting the idle speed in a >>> week or two, and need to know what these engines like. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Oscar Zuniga >>> San Antonio, TX >>> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >>> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net >>> --


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    Time: 09:59:59 PM PST US
    From: "Robison" <robison@mchsi.com>
    Subject: Big Tundra Tires
    Anyone ever used big tires on their Piets? I've seen photos of Piets w/ larger tires used w/ the J3 Cub gear. Those Bushwheels are really expensive($2400.00) I can't seen to find anything cheaper. I wonder if 4 ply ATV tires could be used... Any thoughts? Scott Robison


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    Time: 10:20:02 PM PST US
    From: "Robison" <robison@mchsi.com>
    Subject: Fw: Big Tundra Tires
    ----- Original Message ----- From: Robison Subject: Big Tundra Tires Anyone ever used big tires on their Piets? I've seen photos of Piets w/ larger tires used w/ the J3 Cub gear. Those Bushwheels are really expensive($2400.00) I can't seen to find anything cheaper. I wonder if 4 ply ATV tires could be used... Any thoughts? Scott Robison




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