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1. 06:54 AM - Looking for Lee (Rcaprd@aol.com)
2. 07:33 AM - Christmas book idea-Nate Saint (Matt Naiva)
3. 10:21 AM - Re: "The nose knows"...my Pietenpol cowling. (Glenn Thomas)
4. 12:49 PM - Re: Looking for Lee (gcardinal)
5. 01:14 PM - Re: Looking for Lee (Jim Markle)
6. 02:57 PM - Re: "The nose knows"...my Pietenpol cowling. (Alan Lyscars)
7. 03:00 PM - Seat belts and harnesses (Oscar Zuniga)
8. 05:25 PM - Re: "The nose knows"...my Pietenpol cowling. (Graham Hansen)
9. 05:34 PM - transportability (Scott S.)
10. 06:23 PM - Re: transportability (Sterling)
11. 07:14 PM - Re: "The nose knows"...my Pietenpol cowling. (Alan Lyscars)
12. 07:32 PM - Re:Sitka spruce availability (Matt Naiva)
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Hey, does anyone know the last name of Lee ? He's the guy from Brodhead,
that sells the really nice Polo shirts, with your N number on them. Maybe even
an e-mail address ?
Chuck G.
NX770CG
p.s. going to be in the high 60's today in Wichita !!
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| Subject: | Christmas book idea-Nate Saint |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Naiva <corvaircoupe@gmail.com>
Oscar,
Thanks for this book recommendation, I received mine January 5th and
finished reading the book January 8th 50 years to the date Nate and
company lost their lives. This weekend their is an epic movie in the
theaters documenting the ordeal called "End of the Spear".
http://www.endofthespear.com/
Books on Mission Aviation are always an interesting read of lives
lived on the the edge for greater calling.
Regards,
Matt
"Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Christmas book idea
For those who might be looking for a stocking stuffer book idea,
try Russell Hitt's book "Jungle Pilot" (available from Amazon.com,
among others). Corvair/KR builder-pilot Bill Clapp would certainly
know what this book is about; the life of missionary pilot Nate Saint,
a pilot with Missionary Aviation Fellowship who died in Ecuador. If
you've looked at Glenda McElwee's website, she mentions a trip that
she and Bill are planning to fly, down to Ecuador. Bill is familiar
with that part of the world! Nate Saint developed an ingenious backup
fuel system for use in small, single-engine aircraft that are flown
over inhospitable terrain. Missionary Aviation Fellowship used this
system on aircraft that they operated, and for all I know they may
still be using it. Nate felt that there were enough incidents and
accidents caused by fuel system problems that a backup system was
justified, so he developed a scheme that uses a small auxiliary fuel
tank piped directly to the engine intake, bypassing the fuel selector
valve, gascolator, and everything else that can get crudded up along
the way. It's controlled by a manual valve, similar to mixture
control. He also developed an ingenious way to lower things from a
circling airplane to the ground below, using a line and bucket, but
that would be giving away the details in the book... ;o) Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com website at
http://www.flysquirrel.ne
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| Subject: | Re: "The nose knows"...my Pietenpol cowling. |
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From: Graham Hansen
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:04 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: "The nose knows"...my Pietenpol cowling.
Group,
This cowling is made from .032" commercial soft aluminum and has survived 750
flying hours over a period of 35 years.
The picture was taken on November 15, 2000---the thirtieth anniversary of its
first flight. The engine is a Continental C 85.
The upper cowl is made of three pieces: top center portion and two sides. The
lower cowl is a single piece of sheet aluminum, with a segment below the propeller
cut out and the resulting lap joint riveted together. The only compound
curvature is in the top center piece which was made by hammer, sand bag and dolly.
If I were to do it again, I'd extend this compound curvature further aft
to minimize the "break" in the upper cowl line at the firewall. Otherwise, I'd
change nothing in the basic design and construction.
This cowling is light in weight and relatively easy to make. Construction paper
was used for a "mockup". Patterns were made and then transferred to the sheet
metal.
If anyone is interested, I can perhaps find a more detailed photo and maybe cobble
together a sketch of its construction.
Graham Hansen
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for Lee |
Would that be Lee Stenson?
I don't have contact info.
Greg
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From: Rcaprd@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Looking for Lee
Hey, does anyone know the last name of Lee ? He's the guy from Brodhead, that
sells the really nice Polo shirts, with your N number on them. Maybe even an
e-mail address ?
Chuck G.
NX770CG
p.s. going to be in the high 60's today in Wichita !!
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for Lee |
Lee Stenson - (608) 897-4000 - N2463 Brodhead Airpt Rd, Brodhead, WI 53520
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From: gcardinal
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Looking for Lee
Would that be Lee Stenson?
I don't have contact info.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Rcaprd@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Looking for Lee
Hey, does anyone know the last name of Lee ? He's the guy from Brodhead, that
sells the really nice Polo shirts, with your N number on them. Maybe even
an e-mail address ?
Chuck G.
NX770CG
p.s. going to be in the high 60's today in Wichita !!
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| Subject: | Re: "The nose knows"...my Pietenpol cowling. |
Graham,
Could you please send along any pics/diagrams you have direct?
Thanks,
Alan Lyscars
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From: Glenn Thomas
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "The nose knows"...my Pietenpol cowling.
----- Original Message -----
From: Graham Hansen
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:04 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: "The nose knows"...my Pietenpol cowling.
Group,
This cowling is made from .032" commercial soft aluminum and has survived 750
flying hours over a period of 35 years.
The picture was taken on November 15, 2000---the thirtieth anniversary of its
first flight. The engine is a Continental C 85.
The upper cowl is made of three pieces: top center portion and two sides. The
lower cowl is a single piece of sheet aluminum, with a segment below the propeller
cut out and the resulting lap joint riveted together. The only compound
curvature is in the top center piece which was made by hammer, sand bag and
dolly. If I were to do it again, I'd extend this compound curvature further aft
to minimize the "break" in the upper cowl line at the firewall. Otherwise, I'd
change nothing in the basic design and construction.
This cowling is light in weight and relatively easy to make. Construction paper
was used for a "mockup". Patterns were made and then transferred to the sheet
metal.
If anyone is interested, I can perhaps find a more detailed photo and maybe
cobble together a sketch of its construction.
Graham Hansen
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| Subject: | Seat belts and harnesses |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Chris asks-
>If 41CC has shoulder belts, any idea why the pilot hit the instrument
>panel?
I believe the belts were not as snug as they should have been. I've tried
it myself, sitting in the cockpit, and if I don't cinch them down fairly
well I can lean forward far enough for my head to get close. I'm sure that
in a sudden stop, things get stretched forward enough that they can make
contact. The Piet cockpit is not huge by any means.
In the world of computer technicians, there is what they call "PEBCAK error"
("problem exists between chair and keyboard"); aka "user error". I'm sure
there is a parallel n the Piet world, maybe "PEBSAS", or "problem exists
between seat and stick" ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CorkyPiet.html
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| Subject: | Re: "The nose knows"...my Pietenpol cowling. |
To Alan Lyscars,
Please send me your E-mail address so that I can respond directly to your request.
Graham Hansen
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| Subject: | transportability |
Upon covering the 3-piece wing, do you essentially end up with a one piece
wing? I'm trying to get a handle on transportability...not that you could
tow it to the airport and attach the wings every time you wanted to fly; I
know it's more involved than that. Just seems it would be convenient to
have detachable wings, even if it took 3-4 hours to attach them. It would
open up some options to a guy like me who's not liking the idea of $150 (or
more!) hangar fees every month, not to mention the lengthy waiting list for
hangar space at my local airport.
Appreciate you guys indulging my ignorance on this stuff. :-)
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| Subject: | Re: transportability |
Not practical at all, removing wings and hauling it home, then hauling it back
to the airport.
But if you want to design a trailer for hauling an aircamper, mine has hauled three
from Gerogia to Texas, Arizona to Texas and Kansas to Texas... plus several
other airplanes...
Copy my trailer, here is a picture.
For $150 a month in hanger fees, heck, you can buy acreage in Texas and build your
own airport/hanger!
Sterling Brooks
Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch
5TA6
San Antonio Sectional
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott S.
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: transportability
Upon covering the 3-piece wing, do you essentially end up with a one piece wing?
I'm trying to get a handle on transportability...not that you could tow it
to the airport and attach the wings every time you wanted to fly; I know it's
more involved than that. Just seems it would be convenient to have detachable
wings, even if it took 3-4 hours to attach them. It would open up some options
to a guy like me who's not liking the idea of $150 (or more!) hangar fees
every month, not to mention the lengthy waiting list for hangar space at my local
airport.
Appreciate you guys indulging my ignorance on this stuff. :-)
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| Subject: | Re: "The nose knows"...my Pietenpol cowling. |
Thanks, Graham,
My email is alyscars@maine.rr.com
Yours!
----- Original Message -----
From: Graham Hansen
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "The nose knows"...my Pietenpol cowling.
To Alan Lyscars,
Please send me your E-mail address so that I can respond directly to your request.
Graham Hansen
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| Subject: | Re:Sitka spruce availability |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Matt Naiva" <corvaircoupe@gmail.com>
I have not done business with public lumber but if you ordered a couple of 2x6
x20 foot boards I am sure you could manage 1.6 Piets of so. Have three long boards
shipped to your home for about $425 total.
A Pietenpol is a bird of tradition, enjoy the process!
Bernie himself had nice local wood 2x4 and 2x6 of spuce and western hemlock, he
cut them up himself and built a great Airplane. While the good stuff is not available
locally building 1.6 or so Piets for $400ish is not all that bad! Get
yorrself a thin cerf blade and you could probably build two!
http://www.publiclumber.com/aasitsprucve.html
As always you must grade the wood yourself in the end. Shipping at 14 feet requires
a truck and gets expensive so buy enough for two piets and share the cost!
You must buy the whole length of the board. Seemed like reasonable people on
the phone not afraid to talk airplane use but I don't think they will "certify"
anything. Neither will Aircraft spruce! You are buying the experince thier
mill workers have sorting for the aircraft industry.
Western Aircraft in Canada sells a premium kit of first class stock milled to dimension
for a Piet as well as planks. They ship everthing Airmail and I am told
it always arrives in good shape. Roughly $120 airfreight.
http://www.seqair.com/skunkworks/Sources/WesternAircraft.html
Since I live in Wisconsin I am sorry to hear McCormick is getting so pricy!
http://www.mccormicklumber.com/sitka-spruce.htm
May your sawdust eventaully be carried aloft and catch a good tail wind!
Lets all get out to the shop an remove the parts of the wood that don't look like
an airplane!
Matt Formerly posted under steamlaunch(at)softhome.net
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