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1. 06:18 AM - Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft? (MICHAEL SILVIUS)
2. 09:54 AM - Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft? (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 10:43 AM - Re: Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft? (Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com)
4. 11:00 AM - Re: Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft? (Barry Davis)
5. 02:58 PM - Re: Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft? (MICHAEL SILVIUS)
6. 05:30 PM - height (Ben Ramler)
7. 08:09 PM - Re: Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft? (Glenn Thomas)
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| Subject: | Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
Some time back I purchased a Corvair crank with a prop hub and safety shaft
that according to the seller was installed by Bernard himself. I have a
better crank that I intend to use instead and I would like to remove the
safety shaft from the crank that the hub came with in order to reuse it on
my good crank. This may be more of a Corvaircraft list question, but since
it is a Bernard Pietenpol installation, I figure the answer may well reside
within the epistemological plurality of this board. I have just been
informed of the possibility that the safety shaft may be cross pinned to the
crank underneath the crank timing gear/ hub. Can anyone on this list confirm
this information?
Michael Silvius
Scarborough, Maine
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| Subject: | Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
I don't know about epistemological plurality, but the Pietenpol Corvair
conversion drawings that I have don't show a cross-pin through the safety
shaft under the gear. That was a William Wynne enhancement. If yours is a
true Pietenpol hub conversion, the safety shaft should be simply threaded
into the crank nose.
Anybody else see a cross-pin?
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft? |
I agree. I don't see any cross pin on my plans either. My corvair was
converted per Pietenpol's plans and I did not install any pins. JIM
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
If it is locktighted in, just heat to 300 F and remove.
Be sure to wait till your wife goes to the store before you poke that
crankshaft in the kitchen oven for a half hour or so. If not, she may remind
you of this for the rest of your life.
bed
----- Original Message -----
From: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:12 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft?
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "MICHAEL SILVIUS"
> <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
>
> Some time back I purchased a Corvair crank with a prop hub and safety
> shaft
> that according to the seller was installed by Bernard himself. I have a
> better crank that I intend to use instead and I would like to remove the
> safety shaft from the crank that the hub came with in order to reuse it on
> my good crank. This may be more of a Corvaircraft list question, but since
> it is a Bernard Pietenpol installation, I figure the answer may well
> reside
> within the epistemological plurality of this board. I have just been
> informed of the possibility that the safety shaft may be cross pinned to
> the
> crank underneath the crank timing gear/ hub. Can anyone on this list
> confirm
> this information?
>
> Michael Silvius
>
> Scarborough, Maine
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
Oscar et all:
Many thanks for the responses, I have my answer. Per plans, and per Mr. Dan
Wilson on this list who just spoke w/ Vi Kapler. Vi worked with B. Pietenpol
through the 1970s, and he confirmed that "Bernard never removed a crank gear
from any crankshaft that he ever used for an aircraft" and thus no X pins
would be beneath the timing gear. This is good information. It means I can
easily pull and reuse the safety shaft on my good crank. I shall use the
oven for heat to 300 deg as recommended, once I locate a suitable size lock
nut.
thanks to you all:
Michael Silvius in Scarborough, Maine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:51 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft?
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> I don't know about epistemological plurality, but the Pietenpol Corvair
> conversion drawings that I have don't show a cross-pin through the safety
> shaft under the gear. That was a William Wynne enhancement. If yours is
a
> true Pietenpol hub conversion, the safety shaft should be simply threaded
> into the crank nose.
>
> Anybody else see a cross-pin?
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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Hello Listers,
Let me ask a question. I think there was some talk of a persons height so let
me ask what is the max height someone can be to fit in the front cockpit? Let
me pose this again. Considering that in Minnesota that 4 months or so are really
cold does anyone fly during the winter? Maybe the cub would be the next best
choice. Has equipped their peit with a sling underneath or anything for carrying
extra stuff if the front is taken by another passenger?
Thanks for the input,
Ben Ramler
SW Minnesota
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@charter.net>
In the William Wynne manual he talks about how an engineer explained to him
that it was a stress riser and he hasn't used one since. He just says to
use locktite. Look at page 35 of the WW Conversion Manual for his
discussion on the topic.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:51 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair/ B. Pietenpol installed saftey shaft?
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> I don't know about epistemological plurality, but the Pietenpol Corvair
> conversion drawings that I have don't show a cross-pin through the safety
> shaft under the gear. That was a William Wynne enhancement. If yours is
a
> true Pietenpol hub conversion, the safety shaft should be simply threaded
> into the crank nose.
>
> Anybody else see a cross-pin?
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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