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1. 05:19 AM - Re: Fw: SAA - From Paul's Desk (Gene Beenenga)
2. 08:24 AM - Re: Fw: SAA - From Paul's Desk (Galen Hutcheson)
3. 08:57 AM - Re: Fw: SAA - From Paul's Desk (Alan Lyscars)
4. 10:26 AM - Re: Fw: SAA - From Paul's Desk (Gene Beenenga)
5. 01:35 PM - Re: Fw: SAA - From Paul's Desk (Galen Hutcheson)
6. 07:06 PM - Re: CC: From GN-1 List (Dale Johnson)
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: SAA - From Paul's Desk |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gene Beenenga <kgbunltd@earthlink.net>
To all Peit builders and owners:
I just want to share my support on this invaluable "grass roots" organization.
(I will try and be brief)
Every owner, builder, pilot of any light sport, experimental aircraft should become
a memember of Sport Aviation Association. I have been a member and attended
each form for the past 4 years, when I first learned of its existance. And
here are some of those resons to join.
A. SAA it "headed up" by Paul Poberenz, Sr.-if I have to explain what this one
person has done for the self builder, then don't wast your time reading any further.
B. SAA is organized for the average pilot, (financial status); it's program benefits
all builders; it has a annual 3 day forum whose goal is not to focus on
how much of your money it can take; it's forum is a hands on event, from the set
up (i go a day early to help) to the workshops, (last year hoot Gibson (flew
his Soneri)), William Wynne attends every year, etc.;
C. The quarterly mag you get (written by Paul P) is better than Sport Aviation
from Oshkosh, because its written with the home builder in mind.
D. THERE ARE NO DUES! while that may change, you send a check in the amount for
what you think its worth and what you feel you can afford! Show me one other
organization today that is that democratic!
You owe it to yourself, your family and your reputation as an aircraft builder,
owner and pilot, to at least support the SAA.
see you in Urbana, Ill. June 23
"mean" Gene,
SAA #2419, EAA #78259, NX5893
-----Original Message-----
>From: Isablcorky@aol.com
>Sent: Mar 4, 2006 4:53 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: SAA - From Paul's Desk
>
>
>Some may know of this orgn and some may not. I'm sending this for the
>latter. Membership by contribution. I give $25 per year. You get 4 quarterly
>magazines.
>
>
>
>In a message dated 3/4/2006 4:32:16 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>saa.php@ameritech.net writes:
>
>
>Dear SAA Member:
>
>At this writing we have heard from some 500 SAA members with their e-mail
>addresses, orders for back issues of To Fly, and orders for pins, decals and
>patches. Some have even been kind enough to include financial contributions
to
>augment the treasury. Your continued support is greatly appreciated. There
>are a few out there who do not have access to e-mail, but be assured that
>nobody will be left out. We will make sure that everyone can receive our
>message in one way or another.
>
>Your responses have included many wonderful comments about our efforts over
>these last 53 years. My love of airplanes and people began further back than
>I can remember and I have always wanted to share that with everyone that I
>could. I am sure there are many with this same feeling.
>
>A comment that showed up fairly often in your e-mails is that ?we need an
>organization like SAA.? My challenge to you today is to tell me why. I want
>to hear from you. What is it that you ?need? or ?want? from an
>organization like SAA? There are numerous aviation organizations in existence
that
>provide a wide variety of services, publications, and events. What is it that
>SAA can provide that they do not?
>
>There also appears to be great enthusiasm for another fly-in at Frasca
>Field. Mark your calendars for June 23-24-25, as the Frasca family is warmly
>welcoming us back again in 2006. All of our headquarters volunteers have again
>committed to help, as well as the Replica Fighter group, and Wes Schmid is
>putting together another fine list of forums. If we can be blessed with some
>good weather, I think we will see an excellent turnout. To help us plan, drop
>me an e-mail and let me know if you are planning to come. More details on
>the event will be forthcoming as the event draws near.
>
>Everyone is welcome to be part of our SAA membership, simply by sending us
>their e-mail address. Please feel free to pass this along to anyone you think
>may be interested.
>
>I look forward to hearing from you and will be in touch again soon.
>
>Your friend,
>
> Paul
>H. Poberezny, President
>Sport Aviation Association
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: SAA - From Paul's Desk |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Does anyone have a mailing address for SAA? I would
like to contribute. Thanks.
Doc (H) Do Not Archive
--- Gene Beenenga <kgbunltd@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gene Beenenga
> <kgbunltd@earthlink.net>
>
> To all Peit builders and owners:
>
> I just want to share my support on this invaluable
> "grass roots" organization. (I will try and be
> brief)
>
> Every owner, builder, pilot of any light sport,
> experimental aircraft should become a memember of
> Sport Aviation Association. I have been a member
> and attended each form for the past 4 years, when I
> first learned of its existance. And here are some
> of those resons to join.
> A. SAA it "headed up" by Paul Poberenz, Sr.-if I
> have to explain what this one person has done for
> the self builder, then don't wast your time reading
> any further.
> B. SAA is organized for the average pilot,
> (financial status); it's program benefits all
> builders; it has a annual 3 day forum whose goal is
> not to focus on how much of your money it can take;
> it's forum is a hands on event, from the set up (i
> go a day early to help) to the workshops, (last year
> hoot Gibson (flew his Soneri)), William Wynne
> attends every year, etc.;
> C. The quarterly mag you get (written by Paul P) is
> better than Sport Aviation from Oshkosh, because its
> written with the home builder in mind.
> D. THERE ARE NO DUES! while that may change, you
> send a check in the amount for what you think its
> worth and what you feel you can afford! Show me one
> other organization today that is that democratic!
>
>
> You owe it to yourself, your family and your
> reputation as an aircraft builder, owner and pilot,
> to at least support the SAA.
>
> see you in Urbana, Ill. June 23
>
> "mean" Gene,
> SAA #2419, EAA #78259, NX5893
>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>
> Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: SAA - From Paul's Desk |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alan Lyscars" <alyscars@maine.rr.com>
Sport Aviation Association Inc.
PO Box 2343
Oshkosh, WI 54903-2343
----- Original Message -----
From: "Galen Hutcheson" <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: SAA - From Paul's Desk
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson
<wacopitts@yahoo.com>
>
> Does anyone have a mailing address for SAA? I would
> like to contribute. Thanks.
>
> Doc (H) Do Not Archive
>
> --- Gene Beenenga <kgbunltd@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gene Beenenga
> > <kgbunltd@earthlink.net>
> >
> > To all Peit builders and owners:
> >
> > I just want to share my support on this invaluable
> > "grass roots" organization. (I will try and be
> > brief)
> >
> > Every owner, builder, pilot of any light sport,
> > experimental aircraft should become a memember of
> > Sport Aviation Association. I have been a member
> > and attended each form for the past 4 years, when I
> > first learned of its existance. And here are some
> > of those resons to join.
> > A. SAA it "headed up" by Paul Poberenz, Sr.-if I
> > have to explain what this one person has done for
> > the self builder, then don't wast your time reading
> > any further.
> > B. SAA is organized for the average pilot,
> > (financial status); it's program benefits all
> > builders; it has a annual 3 day forum whose goal is
> > not to focus on how much of your money it can take;
> > it's forum is a hands on event, from the set up (i
> > go a day early to help) to the workshops, (last year
> > hoot Gibson (flew his Soneri)), William Wynne
> > attends every year, etc.;
> > C. The quarterly mag you get (written by Paul P) is
> > better than Sport Aviation from Oshkosh, because its
> > written with the home builder in mind.
> > D. THERE ARE NO DUES! while that may change, you
> > send a check in the amount for what you think its
> > worth and what you feel you can afford! Show me one
> > other organization today that is that democratic!
> >
> >
> > You owe it to yourself, your family and your
> > reputation as an aircraft builder, owner and pilot,
> > to at least support the SAA.
> >
> > see you in Urbana, Ill. June 23
> >
> > "mean" Gene,
> > SAA #2419, EAA #78259, NX5893
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > browse
> > Subscriptions page,
> > FAQ,
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> >
> > Admin.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: SAA - From Paul's Desk |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gene Beenenga <kgbunltd@earthlink.net>
p.s. thanks to all you Piet owner/builders that asked for SAA address so you can
join up or contribute. (sorry, I forgot it)
I know each of you would enjoy the gathering of planes, builders and the forums
that will be at Urbana. "mean" Gene
-----Original Message-----
>From: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Mar 5, 2006 10:21 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: SAA - From Paul's Desk
>
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
>
>Does anyone have a mailing address for SAA? I would
>like to contribute. Thanks.
>
>Doc (H) Do Not Archive
>
>--- Gene Beenenga <kgbunltd@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gene Beenenga
>> <kgbunltd@earthlink.net>
>>
>> To all Peit builders and owners:
>>
>> I just want to share my support on this invaluable
>> "grass roots" organization. (I will try and be
>> brief)
>>
>> Every owner, builder, pilot of any light sport,
>> experimental aircraft should become a memember of
>> Sport Aviation Association. I have been a member
>> and attended each form for the past 4 years, when I
>> first learned of its existance. And here are some
>> of those resons to join.
>> A. SAA it "headed up" by Paul Poberenz, Sr.-if I
>> have to explain what this one person has done for
>> the self builder, then don't wast your time reading
>> any further.
>> B. SAA is organized for the average pilot,
>> (financial status); it's program benefits all
>> builders; it has a annual 3 day forum whose goal is
>> not to focus on how much of your money it can take;
>> it's forum is a hands on event, from the set up (i
>> go a day early to help) to the workshops, (last year
>> hoot Gibson (flew his Soneri)), William Wynne
>> attends every year, etc.;
>> C. The quarterly mag you get (written by Paul P) is
>> better than Sport Aviation from Oshkosh, because its
>> written with the home builder in mind.
>> D. THERE ARE NO DUES! while that may change, you
>> send a check in the amount for what you think its
>> worth and what you feel you can afford! Show me one
>> other organization today that is that democratic!
>>
>>
>> You owe it to yourself, your family and your
>> reputation as an aircraft builder, owner and pilot,
>> to at least support the SAA.
>>
>> see you in Urbana, Ill. June 23
>>
>> "mean" Gene,
>> SAA #2419, EAA #78259, NX5893
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> browse
>> Subscriptions page,
>> FAQ,
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>>
>> Admin.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>__________________________________________________
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: SAA - From Paul's Desk |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Thanks. I will get in touch with them.
Doc (H)
--- Alan Lyscars <alyscars@maine.rr.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alan Lyscars"
> <alyscars@maine.rr.com>
>
> Sport Aviation Association Inc.
> PO Box 2343
> Oshkosh, WI 54903-2343
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> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > > browse
> > > Subscriptions page,
> > > FAQ,
> > >
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> > >
> > > Admin.
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> > __________________________________________________
> protection around
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> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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> Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: CC: From GN-1 List |
Alen
I have plans for the GN 1 but I built a Pietenpol. I notice that the GN 1 flies
tail low. It just does not look right.
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Lyscars
Sent: 2/27/2006 6:41:09 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: CC: From GN-1 List
Thank you DJ. What do you reccommend for cabane dimensions?
Sincerely,
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Vegh
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: CC: From GN-1 List
don't do the GN-1 to the plans lest you will fly tail low. Set your wing so that
you have a 1.8 AOI. The plans put the wing at an angle quite a bit less than
that.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Johnson
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: CC: From GN-1 List
Alan
My GN 1 plans showes 21" for the front struts & 21 3/4" for the rear struts.
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Lyscars
Sent: 2/26/2006 7:48:32 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: CC: >From GN-1 List
Greetings Fellows,
I'm going to copy my question from the GN-1 list to you; I hope that, in the spirit
of scratch building, you all won't take offense at having a GN-1 question
posted to this list. Thanks, to all as ever, for your help.
Alan
Gents:
I've been following a thread on the Piet list concerning the length of cabane struts
on the Pietenpol. In a sample response from builders, all front struts
were taller than the rear-averaging 23" front and 22" rear. Our GN-1 plans call
for 23 1/4" fronts, and 23 1/2" rears. Are you fellows using these plans dimensions
(are they accurate?) or have you altered the lengths of the cabanes?
Alan Lyscars
Portland, Maine
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