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1. 06:50 AM - Elevator leading edge (TBYH@aol.com)
2. 09:07 AM - Re: Model A engine costs (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
3. 09:16 AM - Re: Elevator leading edge (gcardinal)
4. 09:47 AM - Re: Elevator leading edge (Catdesign)
5. 09:50 AM - Re: Wood Ink Test (Alan Lyscars)
6. 02:20 PM - my Piet pics (walt evans)
7. 04:25 PM - Re: my Piet pics (Catdesign)
8. 05:06 PM - Re: Model A engine costs (del magsam)
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| Subject: | Elevator leading edge |
Dumb question and I suppose if I looked at plans even more closely I'd arrive
at answer myself ... is the leading edge of the elevators the same cross
section as the leading edge of the horizontal stabilizer? Or is it the same as
the
trailing edge of the stab, only reversed? Same question for the rudder and
vertical stab ?
Only about 120 days to Brodhead! BTW -- my son brought his computer home
which has MS Flight Simulator -- he has a Model A powered Pietenpol on it. Have
been getting some stick time -- great fun! The glide angle is almost like a
space shuttle! Tried flying the 747-400 -- did okay 'til landing. I at least got
it on the airport when landing...yes, you can land one of these in the grass
(Microsoft grass, that is!).
Have a great weekend!
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Model A engine costs |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
Mark: ".....to get a model A to run right" That may never happen. Even
Ken Perkins who has the best Model A set up has had his share of
problems and probably always will. Even the Corvair guys are having
crank shaft problems. But if any one can work that out, WW will do it.
On Cost, I couldn't say. I bought an already converted engine on a test
stand, engine mt. (fwf minus prop) and a whole pickup load of other
stuff for about 3 grand. Including a B which I am told is worth $1500 to
the car guys. As far as carrying your weight, I've watched Perkins (He
told me once he weight 235) take off with a pretty big passenger, and
get off pretty quick and climb good. On the Other hand, last year me and
couple of guys were watching Piets fly (at Brodhead) and Bill Rewey (65
Cont.) took off with a pretty hefty passenger and was still VERY low
when he passed over the road on the east end. I doubt he did a mid field
take off. You couldn't see the west end for the corn. Were all gasping!
It was also quite a show watching the passenger get in and out of the
front pit. I have a Cont. ($$$$) engine waiting in the wings just in
case, but am thinking Corvair because of cost. None of these are real
answers to your questions, so I'm giving $0,000.000.002 worth of some
observations I have. Leon S.
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator leading edge |
Fred,
The LE of the elevators and rudder are the same cross-section as the TRAILING edge
of the stabilizer and vertical fin.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: TBYH@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator leading edge
Dumb question and I suppose if I looked at plans even more closely I'd arrive
at answer myself ... is the leading edge of the elevators the same cross section
as the leading edge of the horizontal stabilizer? Or is it the same as the
trailing edge of the stab, only reversed? Same question for the rudder and vertical
stab ?
Only about 120 days to Brodhead! BTW -- my son brought his computer home which
has MS Flight Simulator -- he has a Model A powered Pietenpol on it. Have been
getting some stick time -- great fun! The glide angle is almost like a space
shuttle! Tried flying the 747-400 -- did okay 'til landing. I at least got
it on the airport when landing...yes, you can land one of these in the grass (Microsoft
grass, that is!).
Have a great weekend!
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator leading edge |
This is how I did it. It is easier to explain in picture form.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: TBYH@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 6:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator leading edge
Dumb question and I suppose if I looked at plans even more closely I'd arrive
at answer myself ... is the leading edge of the elevators the same cross section
as the leading edge of the horizontal stabilizer? Or is it the same as the
trailing edge of the stab, only reversed? Same question for the rudder and vertical
stab ?
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| Subject: | Re: Wood Ink Test |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alan Lyscars" <alyscars@maine.rr.com>
Thanks, Chris;
Yep, it's the ink run method I'm looking for. Now to find where this
document resides!
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Catdesign" <catdesign@intergate.com>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Ink Test
> How about this one. See page 2 under Flat Grain Slope. Dont know where
this
> came from.
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan Lyscars
> To: Piet List
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 6:51 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wood Ink Test
>
>
> Ok fellows, I've lost my marbles.
>
> Somewhere in my stack of stuff I've got an article about testing wood
grain
> direction with india ink. I can't remember which publication it's in:
> Sport Aviation Tips, Wood, etc.
>
> I've got a chance to purchase some Sitka here in Maine (been at the
> lumberyard for about a year, having been brought in from the West Coast on
> special order for another customer) for $8 per foot (full 2"x6"). VERY
> straight grain, with rings averaging 21 per inch (low 18 rpi, high 30 rpi)
> throughout the full six inch width.
>
> Do any of you guys remember this article--maybe from Forest Products Lab
> publication, AC 43.13, etc.?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Alan
>
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Just ran into my Yahoo pic acct. Forgot I had it. Here's the link in case any
one wants to browse my project in a nutshell. Click to make them bigger.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/joepiet/album?.dir=3D5f03
walt evans
NX140DL
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| Subject: | Re: my Piet pics |
Walt, can you tell me how you added the tail wheel to the standard Piet design?
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: piet list
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Just ran into my Yahoo pic acct. Forgot I had it. Here's the link in case any
one wants to browse my project in a nutshell. Click to make them bigger.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/joepiet/album?.dir=3D5f03
walt evans
NX140DL
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| Subject: | Re: Model A engine costs |
Even the Corvair guys are having
crank shaft problems. But if any one can work that out, WW will do it.
>>>>>not really, its just that the engines are being souped up, extensions made,
and engines run at higher rpms on airplanes that are more yank and bank style....they
are just finding the limits of the crank design.
Del
Del-New Richmond, Wi
"farmerdel@rocketmail.com"
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